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nitinnun

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #315 on: October 18, 2008, 11:54:43 PM »
why do you want to use silver-iron, instead of copper-iron?

is it only because silver-iron, is what the author used?


copper is much easier to get.
much cheaper.


i got much more amperage, and even more voltage, from bismuth-iron, than copper-iron.
yet copper is so much easier to work, that i use copper.


by the way. for some reason, steel (iron-carbon), works better than an iron nail (iron).

it is because the carbon in the steel, is diamagnetic? while iron is merely ferromagnetic?
i assumed that diamagnetism and paramagnetism had something to do with it.

because bismuth is more diamagnetic than copper.
and what was why bismuth worked better than copper?

nitinnun

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #316 on: October 18, 2008, 11:57:37 PM »
atomic weight is set.
so i take it there is no way to increase atomic volume as well?
to increase electrical charge?


if the lighter element is always positive,
than why is bismuth the positive, and steel the negative????

bismuth is atomic weight freaking 83. while iron is only 26 !
so why is the bismuth positive, and the iron negative??????????

nitinnun

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #317 on: October 19, 2008, 12:05:15 AM »
....running electricity through the crystal lattice, forces copper atoms and iron atoms to align with each other?

such as:

Cu-C-Fe-Cu-C-Fe-Cu-C-Fe-Cu-C-Fe ?



john hutchison said that he ran electricity through his cells, when they were still molten.
he must have done it, to force the positive elements to align with the negative elements!

nitinnun

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #318 on: October 19, 2008, 12:32:08 AM »
.....is that "superlight" really "anti-light"?


do blackholes emit anti-light?
and this anti-light is sucked into suns?

like the light of the sun is sucked into a blackhole?


the negative on a battery, is not an energy void.
the negative on a battery, is full of negative counter-clockwise spin.
this negative energy leaks out of the negative terminal, and into the positive terminal on the battery.



positive energy (clockwise spin), and negative energy (counter-clockwise spin), seem willing to go right through each other.
they only mix together when they are both inside a 3rd thing.
inside physical matter.

the ZPE molecule "catches" both light and anti-light?
and the insulating polymer keeps them from mixing?

what material in the ZPE molecule, catches the light and anti-light?

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #319 on: October 19, 2008, 12:45:59 AM »
Hi!

@nitinnun
Your thoughts are to profound for me. But you are right. I need to grasp the meaning of your words in order to get the answer to the problem that is stopping the progress of my invention.

Jesus

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #320 on: October 19, 2008, 01:38:13 AM »
atomic weight is set.
so i take it there is no way to increase atomic volume as well?
to increase electrical charge?


if the lighter element is always positive,
than why is bismuth the positive, and steel the negative????

bismuth is atomic weight freaking 83. while iron is only 26 !
so why is the bismuth positive, and the iron negative??????????

Hello Nitinnun !

the questions in the quotation above can be answer by reading the electrinium.pdf, in your theory you expose 2 different metals not melted, in the electrinium the 2 different metals are melted, so it might not react the same, or just at the opposite

about your other posts: wowwwww, you brain must be supra conductive, well done !

a lot of questions, i can barely answer half of them

so let's take them one by one

you can find many answers by reading all this topic, all the electrinium, and the Superlight link, and some of my previous post since 3 months

the tricks with the lectrinium is to align and compress, compress is very important cause if the 2 molecules are at the same density as before, then it is not good at all

your idea to use copper is good, we just not know if it will work cause of the harmonic between copper and iron, or copper and steel, if the molecular frequency of the pair sounds bad like a bad harmonic then the compound may heat or destroy itself

to catch superlight you have to melt the 2 atoms or molecules in a shorter space as normal in a normal melting, then you break the equilibrium existing among all other atoms or molecules of this universe, so the compound will get more density than normal and create is own pressure

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what material in the ZPE molecule, catches the light and anti-light?

anti-light is superlight according to the superlight link, i will not repeat the quotation from the link, every atoms or molecules catch superlight, it comes from everywhere

according to electrinium when there is a breaking in the equilibrium then the universe create a flow of electricity or a flow of heat to regain equilibrium, so all the atoms and molecule are constantly trying to exchange energy to regain the equilibrium, superlight come from all black holes and there is a lot of black holes, so superlight come from all around us with a pressure, this pressure create gravity by pushing all things together

Nitinnun, you have pointing out a lot of intelligent questions, i am proud of your theory cause your theory can be explain easily with the superlight theory !

let's say that copper have a different density than iron, while each of them received superlight they catch only a part of it, that is the reason why there is a molecular frequency

if you create your glue cell then each metal will shine different frequency of the superlight, you have to use a resonating system to take advantage of the difference in the frequency, that explain why a glue cell is not very powerfull, it is because of the equilibrium ! copper and iron or whatever are all in equilibrium

is you choose 2 atoms harmonically tune and put them together in a shorter volume than normal, then this compound will shine more superlight than all other things around it

Summera said that a lot of combination will work, why not cu-fe !

the problem is to create the copper-iron compound as the same way the silver-iron compound is done

and do not forget to align and compress, the compound is not align neither compress, all of this is done with high voltage, and create something that the nature itself can not do, i means a forced higher density in the combination

i will try to answer you other questions, for now is all i got


nievesoliveras

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #321 on: October 19, 2008, 01:52:04 AM »
Hi!

@drannom
You can find nitinniun's thread here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=5851.msg132738#msg132738

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #322 on: October 19, 2008, 02:23:51 AM »
Hi!

@drannom
You can find nitinniun's thread here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=5851.msg132738#msg132738

Jesus

Jesus !!!  thank you...., i read all the Nitinnun's topics, i have post many time in his topics, so you have not read them all at all, i have always try to explain him the frequency of the CW vortex and CCW vortex, from my point of view those 2 vortexes are a second consequence of the superlight hitting them, the molecular frequency of the atom is the same as the vortex coming from this atom, when 2 fields are opposed then there is vortex between each of them, one vortex spin clock, the other sin counter clock, up to me it look like exactly the superlight theory, in our universe energy exchange by vortexes

and, in electrinium, the first step is to choose the compound we want, M. Summera give us some of working combination

silver-iron is the main compound, to create it we have to create first a silver-iron battery

i keep my mind open to other combinations

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #323 on: October 19, 2008, 03:23:53 AM »
mrcharisma,

If you align the atoms to hold the charge, you end up with superconductor. Sludge cannot serve that purpose because you have already taken the charge (free electrons) out of it and forced the molecules to bond with molecules of other material into a new chemical material. Sludge is inert electrically.

And no cental sun in a galaxy far far away, or around the corner, can change that.

Think of an acid and a caustic liquids. Both "charged" with strong abrasive/ dilluting characteristic, but if you mix them together, they cancel each other out and combine into an inert, harmless compound.

Sludge doesn't have any free electrons to move around and as such cannot produce electricity. Electricity is a flow of free electrons, not of aligned atoms and/or molecules. You can only get those back from your sludge if you re-condition it. If you turn it back into the original state - separate the two chemicals used to produce the flow of free electrons and return them into their pre-charge state in order to combine them again in the battery to produce electricity.

If you make electrinium work, or think you can, show us the chemical reaction formula for that proces. If it is possible, it can be expressed as a chemical reaction. And none of methods in the pdf make any sense from that point of view. Cyanide won't create surplus of electrons in sludge. Growing cristals either.

Just as adding water or beer won't separate caustic and acidic liquids.

I do not remember seeing any of these in the pdf file. Surely there will be a good reason for that.



Hi MrT,

I hear what you are saying but you are sounding like a text book lesson in electron theory! There is no thinking outside the box. You are saying "if this thing works then make it fit the old model" but the reality is... if this thing works then YOU will have to change your model!

Or change your current way of thinking anyway.

First time I read the PDF I found it very strabge, although I had a good feeling about it. Second time I read it made perfect sense...until I went out into the world and I realised my current thought system could not support this model of thinking. Now having been familiar with the PDF for some time, neither my world nor my thiking are in conflict and YES it still makes sense. Maybe you could try reading it again a bit more carefully? And open your mind to some new ideas...

I do not believe how the "electrinium battery" describes atoms is a chemical reaction.

All atoms have electrons, protons and a natural energy regardless of whether they have been "charged" or not. Bond two atoms of different energetic properties and there is a natural voltage potential (difference in energies) that exists in the relationship between those pairs. Don't tell me ALL molecules therefore cannot have free electrons!!

"Growing crystals!" is just an expression for the way silicon is manufactured for the purpose of integrated circuits! They are not really crystals, just have "crystalline similar" properties. Growing a crystal of silicon is a good way to arrange the atomic pairs into a lattice where they can be "aligned" using a strong current during the molten stage and then fixed in position as the silicon solidifies.

That is my understanding of it anyway, why argue about the theory, why not just go and build one and see if it works? The "permanent crystal battery" suggests that it might. I havn't made one yet so I couldn't tell you if I wanted to...

Water or beer or even piss might help but probably only in the short term :D

Either way it will not stop my research!


LOL



Matt ::)

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #324 on: October 19, 2008, 03:27:59 AM »

according to electrinium when there is a breaking in the equilibrium then the universe create a flow of electricity or a flow of heat to regain equilibrium, so all the atoms and molecule are constantly trying to exchange energy to regain the equilibrium,

This is how I understand it...well summarised thanks


Matt

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #325 on: October 19, 2008, 03:30:17 AM »
mrcharisma,

If you align the atoms to hold the charge, you end up with superconductor.

I do not remember that being how superconductors are made? Certainly not a room temperature anyway? Do you have a new theory you would like to share with the group?



Matt

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #326 on: October 19, 2008, 03:34:12 AM »

john hutchison said that he ran electricity through his cells, when they were still molten.
he must have done it, to force the positive elements to align with the negative elements!


Sounds familiar doesn't it?


Hi Jesus hows things with you?



Matt

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #327 on: October 19, 2008, 04:01:06 AM »
Hi!

@drannom
By the way. The link I put is not the piramid one he had. It is his new one about molecules and lattices. And yes I read most of his postings. For that I dared to invite him to join us on our quest. That is why he is among us now.

@mrcharisma
I am very well, thank you. By the way. I am still waiting for your next video and information. Matblythe you are the best.

Jesus

nitinnun

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #328 on: October 19, 2008, 04:42:11 AM »
eventually i decided that there was some critical part of the pyramid, that i was missing.
and i couldn't figure out what it was.
(likely hitting it with the right frequency. or getting 2 copper coils to resonate, like drannon said).

so i lost interest, and did other things.



now i'm facinated with producing a solid state ZPE cell.

and ironically, some of the energy physics that i discovered while contemplating the pyramid, seem to apply to the projects in this thread.


the instant i heard about john hutchisons work, i knew that its energy physics were related to my glue cells.

i think that what he did, was form a "covalent bond chain", that magnetically connects 2 metal atoms.
but does not electrically connect them.


but i think that he made this "covalent bond chain", with silicon atoms.

because in a video i saw, he said that he hunted for "rocks with silicates in them".
which he "mixed with metals".

and mixed with an other unknown substance. which i suspect was calcium atoms and sodium atoms.


(the calcium atoms, would give the cell cement-like hardness.
and calciums paramagnetism, might disrupt the copper atoms protons)

(the sodium atoms, might "cap" the edge of the lattice. making the lattice stable.
and the sodiums paramagnetism, might disrupt the copper atoms protons)

nitinnun

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #329 on: October 19, 2008, 04:45:19 AM »
what i REALLY want to do, is use silicon in place of carbon.
to make something similar to this:

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Cu-Si-Fe


this would form a crystal lattice. which would most likely have a very high electrical resistance.
yet would most likely still conduct "magnetism", though the "covalent bond chain" of the lattice.

allowing the above alttice, to work just like a glue cell.



i suspect that calcium atoms and sodium atoms would have to be added to the above lattice.
to "stabilize" its lattice structure.
(to make all the atoms have all of their covalent bonds filled up!)


that special feeling tells me this:

that the more covalent bonds filled up in the lattice,
the more "covalent bond chains" connecting the 2 metals,
the more magnetic conduction between the 2 atoms,
the better that ZPE molecule works!