Author Topic: Electrinium (Read 244440 times)

Drannom · « **Reply #240 on:** October 12, 2008, 10:55:36 PM »

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I don't think that epoxy is hard enough or able to take high enough temperatures

Sure it will not, i try to imagine, cement , or whatever to maintain the compress aligment, the body must keep the compound (silver-iron) in place, so we will have to play a lot to find some easy ways to do this

this might be done without cristallizing and without heating, isn't it ?

i am pretty sure that someone somewhere will find an easy way to mixt some iron-silver in a sort of epoxy-cement (or whatever) and put high voltage with low current on a very thin part of the mixture, (1 milimeter) and release the voltage after the solidification of the mixture

we may be able to get some compressed aligned connection with the compound inside a solidifation, a cristallization or whatever else

i just say that the first step is to get iron-silver and we need Sodium Cyanide and now the question is where can we find or make our Sodium Cyanide ?

and we will have to take care to know exactly how safe it is, Summmera said that it is very easy to make the compound, so we will have to find a sort of body to get the unit completed

i have already a silver spoon ! and iron is everywhere around me, now Sodium Cyanide! yeah

resonanceman · « **Reply #241 on:** October 12, 2008, 11:15:45 PM »

this stuff is not exactly cheap

http://www.sciencelab.com/page/S/PVAR/SLS3736

Drannom · « **Reply #242 on:** October 12, 2008, 11:54:07 PM »

Quote from: resonanceman on October 12, 2008, 11:15:45 PM

this stuff is not exactly cheap

http://www.sciencelab.com/page/S/PVAR/SLS3736

well expensive indeed, 185 $ for 2.5 kilo

is the formula correct ? NaCN ? then there is some eminence here to find a way to make our own NaCN, there must be a sort of chemical reaction to do NaCN

thank you resonanceman, not cheap yet, we may find a way to synthetise it, heuu i hope

resonanceman · « **Reply #243 on:** October 13, 2008, 12:11:37 AM »

Quote from: Drannom on October 12, 2008, 11:54:07 PM

well expensive indeed, 185 $ for 2.5 kilo

is the formula correct ? NaCN ? then there is some eminence here to find a way to make our own NaCN, there must be a sort of chemical reaction to do NaCN

thank you resonanceman, not cheap yet, we may find a way to synthetise it, heuu i hope

check in your local phone book for electroplating shops
maybe you can get just enough to run some tests .

resonanceman · « **Reply #244 on:** October 13, 2008, 12:17:12 AM »

Quote from: resonanceman on October 13, 2008, 12:11:37 AM

check in your local phone book for electroplating shops
maybe you can get just enough to run some tests .

Wikipedia answers a few questions .
Why only sodium cyanide is named and why care must be taken when using it .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_cyanide

gary

Drannom · « **Reply #245 on:** October 13, 2008, 12:32:03 AM »

Thank you Resonanceman !

HCN + NaOH â†’ NaCN + H2O

in fact we want just to do a little mini electrinium to proove the concept, so, i will need indeed just a few of NaCN, some grammes, i understand almost perfectly the way electrinium use NaCN to create the iron-silver compound

now we are all at the first step to create the iron-silver compound, then the body will be to imagine, and i have a lot of imagination

in few days i hope someone will tell us the way he realise it, and when many will get iron-silver compound then thre will be many many experiment to do with that, i have already all the ability to generate high voltage at low current,

someone said before in this thread to try to use glass to be the body of the compound, if the body is not a cristallized body then it may be possible to make some connection to compress and align iron-silver inside any type of mixture, imagination will help

Drannom · « **Reply #246 on:** October 13, 2008, 01:16:09 AM »

ok Resonanceman, i have a new feeling ! we better buy directly a silver-iron battery if there still some one to sell

many of us wonder how to find and old silver battery in the way to extract from it the silver-iron compound, and, i have the idea to simply buy one of them, so i will perform a search and probably find nothing, someone else may provide us a link to order those ordinary silver-iron battery

and then we will get for sure our compound, here i have a lot of old battery, i have no way to know which one get silver in it, may be someone else will find such a battery and show us a picture, M Summera seems to say that there is a lot of those silver-iron battery, so just buy one of them, then discharge completly it, then collecte the coumpound inside, this will be the cheapest sure way to go

so, instead of Sodium Cyanide, i will try to find a link....

and...i have found notihng, research still in progress

nievesoliveras · « **Reply #247 on:** October 13, 2008, 01:42:49 AM »

Hi!

There is a process for obtaining cyanide from algae or from hard shells. I dont have the link. But I read it somewhere on the internet.

Jesus

resonanceman · « **Reply #248 on:** October 13, 2008, 01:47:54 AM »

Quote from: Drannom on October 13, 2008, 01:16:09 AM

ok Resonanceman, i have a new feeling ! we better buy directly a silver-iron battery if there still some one to sell

many of us wonder how to find and old silver battery in the way to extract from it the silver-iron compound, and, i have the idea to simply buy one of them, so i will perform a search and probably find nothing, someone else may provide us a link to order those ordinary silver-iron battery

and then we will get for sure our compound, here i have a lot of old battery, i have no way to know which one get silver in it, may be someone else will find such a battery and show us a picture, M Summera seems to say that there is a lot of those silver-iron battery, so just buy one of them, then discharge completly it, then collecte the coumpound inside, this will be the cheapest sure way to go

so, instead of Sodium Cyanide, i will try to find a link....

and...i have found notihng, research still in progress

I found lots of silver zinc batterys

I don't think that anyone makes silver iron batterys .
If you are willing to pay the extra money for silver you are going to also pay the money for the other metal that will give the highest performance .

gary

nievesoliveras · « **Reply #249 on:** October 13, 2008, 01:58:08 AM »

Hi!

Cyanide can be gotten from a lot of sources.
"Cyanide is used in tempering steel, dyeing, explosives, engraving, the production of acrylic resin plastic, and other organic chemical products (eg: historically: formic acid). The less toxic ethyl acetate (C4H8O2) has now largely replaced the use of cyanide in insect killing jars. Hydrogen Cyanide is also being used for capital punishment in gas chambers in six US states, all of which have other options available.[citation needed].

Fruits that have a pit, such as cherries, apricots, apples, and bitter almonds from which almond oil and flavoring are made, contain small amounts of cyanohydrins such as mandelonitrile (CAS#532-28-5). Such molecules slowly release hydrogen cyanide.[4][5] Some millipedes release hydrogen cyanide as a defense mechanism,[6] as do certain insects such as some burnet moths. Hydrogen cyanide is contained in the exhaust of vehicles, in tobacco and wood smoke, and in smoke from burning nitrogen-containing plastics.

100 g of crushed apple seeds can yield 219 mg of Amygdalin which can generate ~10 mg of HCN"

The article that I read talked about how to poison fish with cyanide made from crushed sea shells.

One way of obtaining the silver salt is by chemically disociating the silver from the Tin/Silver solder and joining it to iron salts.

Jesus

Drannom · « **Reply #250 on:** October 13, 2008, 02:11:26 AM »

so let's go with Sodium Cyanide or with old silver battery, i was talking about iron-silver battery and i may be wrong, i do not know their name, the iron-silver compound is the result of the discharged battery

here the master Summera

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Throughout this past century millions of storage batteries have been made of a great variety of materials and many of these old worn out batteries contain in the bottom of the case a sludge that is pure Electrinium Compound.

so what was the exact name of the battery he is talking about ?

resonanceman · « **Reply #251 on:** October 13, 2008, 02:23:37 AM »

Quote from: Drannom on October 13, 2008, 02:11:26 AM

so let's go with Sodium Cyanide or with old silver battery, i was talking about iron-silver battery and i may be wrong, i do not know their name, the iron-silver compound is the result of the discharged battery

here the master Summera

so what was the exact name of the battery he is talking about ?

he seems to be talking about all of them

But he also says that the elements in the electinium must all be in harmony so most of the batterys are probably not usable .........

I do think you had a point when you said OLD silver battery ......the battery industry looks to have become a little to standardized .

gary

gary

resonanceman · « **Reply #252 on:** October 13, 2008, 03:03:03 AM »

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If we could find a worn out Silver-Iron battery there would be enough Silver-
Iron compound in its bottom to make many Electrinium Units. Or, let us build a small storage battery
and compound our own Silver-Iron molecules through the discharge-charge process. The battery
need not be large. Four sheets of Silver, size three inches by four for the positive side, five sheets
of Iron for the negative using lead terminals for each side.

He says IF we could find a worn out Silver-Iron battery

then he goes on explaining how to make one.

gary

Drannom · « **Reply #253 on:** October 13, 2008, 03:06:26 AM »

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Throughout this past century millions of storage batteries have been made of a great variety of materials and many of these old worn out batteries contain in the bottom of the case a sludge that is pure Electrinium Compound.

Resonanceman

from my point of view you are right, a lot of them are ok, the good one will get iron-silver compound as the result of discharging the battery (i suppose?)

2 easy way to get the iron-silver compound, the most sure should be with the Sodium Cyanide method

so i will go to sleep, and may be tomorrow we will find some Sodium Cyanide easily, or with great luck and old silver battery

good night

Drannom · « **Reply #254 on:** October 13, 2008, 04:56:11 PM »

Quote from: resonanceman on October 13, 2008, 03:03:03 AM

He says IF we could find a worn out Silver-Iron battery

then he goes on explaining how to make one.

gary

yes, thank you Resonanceman, so now let's create a silver-iron battery !

with many heads there are much more ideas to understand the electrinium better

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