This was so interesting, I thought it would be good to post- not exactly "Sun" energy, more like Central Sun Energy.
Tell me what you think...
 http://www.nuenergy.org/pdf/electrinium.pdf

The body of the Unit could be made from a number of materials such as steel. Silicon, Germanium, Carbon and others.

Drannom,

I was very interested in this electrinium battery as I think it would definitely work.
Mr. Nelson of rexresearch wrote me that it came from aliens during meditation sessions of some
young people and they tried to replicate but failed.

The problem is they describe a way for fabrication from silicon which is not available to most
researchers. My chemistry contact thought that some important information was carefully hidden.

In your message I just saw the above quoted "could be from steel" and wonder if anybody can describe a
way to make this from steel or carbon or any other material but crystals. As crystals are hard to work with
and very brittle. One crack and your efforts are gone.
 

Howdy Y'all,

I have just read the Electrinium.pdf document.  I am familiar with the theory of growing semiconductor silicon crystals having been in the semiconductor industry for several years.  Now I haven't grown the crystals myself, but I understand the theory well.  In the Electrinium.pdf document Mr. Summera describes the theoretical process of "growing" Electrinium very well.  It makes perfect sense to me.  Ultimately you are making molecules of silver and iron.  These molecules are arranged in the finished material so that they are all polarized in the same direction.  This gives the effect of stacking batteries, but at a molecular level.  This results in high voltages at tiny currents.  Then the small, high voltage crystals are paralleled to increase the net current.  So say you produce one that is the size of a AA battery.  Rather than having a single crystal which traverses the length of the cell you have a lot of tiny cells which are paralleled in a matrix inside the cell.  This way we can replicate the voltage and amperage of a 1.5 Volt AA battery cell, but it is composed of something very different inside.  Something which is a permanent battery.

I imagine that the composition of the structure would be similar to an electrolytic capacitor.  Where you have an anode plate with its conductor to the east.  Next you place a thin wafer of the Electrinium.  Then you have the cathode plate with its conductor to the west.  Then there is a dielectric plate to insulate this cathode plate from the next anode plate.  Then the process starts over to add the next cell.  First an anode plate, then the wafer of Electrinium, then the cathode plate, then the dielectric plate, et cetera.  This would require several processes to produce the finished Electrinium batteries.  You would have to fabricate the iron silver molecules in one process and the silicon borozon mixture in another process.  Mix the two solutions together and grow the Electrinium crystals.  Then slice the crystals into appropriate wafers and fabricate the batteries.  Then to activate the batteries you would have to reheat the entire battery to 1200 to 1400 degrees Fahrenheit and apply a direct current to align the silver iron crystals.  When the battery reaches the right temperature, and the crystals align it will start producing current on its own.  Then you can allow the batteries to cool down with a resistive circuit attached to allow the silver iron molecules to retain their alignment.  When the battery is cool, and the silver iron molecules are physically set the battery is permanent and will produce current perpetually.

This is so cool!

Blessed Be...

I wonder  if  what  the  video  calls electrinium sludge   can be used in some way .

Maybe if it was mixed with something like epoxy and  put between 2  plates  then   a current  could be ran  through it   until it set up to keep the   pairs aligned .     


gary

Howdy Nievesoliveras,

I'll let you know as soon as I synthesize a working battery.  This one is going to take significant capital...

Resonanceman, the problem with the Electrinium sludge is that it is in a semi-fluid state.  Mr. Summera stated in the Electrinium.pdf document that it needs to be in a crystallized state to maintain its form.  When you draw heavy currents out of a battery it will heat up.  I work with printed circuit boards which are made with fiberglass and epoxy.  The trouble with epoxy is that when it gets hot it melts.  If you leave a circuit board in the process to long it will overheat and delaminate, which ruins the circuit board.  The same will happen with a Electrician sludge epoxy sandwich battery, when you draw too much current it will overheat and destabilize, then you have a dead battery.

I don't  think that  the  sludge being   in a semi liquid state  is a  big problem .   It can be encapsulated.

I agree that heat  would be  a problem .   
I am not saying that  this  would be the best  way  to make an electrinium battery,  but  it might be a  good proof of concept .
It would also be  cheep 
It seems to me that a  cheep easy  to make  low power battery  might be more practical than  a higher  power  battery that most are not able to make .

I think that an energy solution  that  the  people can make themselves is a better solution than  a similar  solution that  has to be made for them .

As far as the heat .  Making it  flat and thin would  give it  alot of area to dissipate heat .
If that isn't enough,    then  add some current limiting .

gary

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I also like  the  idea of  maybe being able to  use dead batterys  to make  a longer lasting battery .

Howdy Y'all,

I wouldn't say that I'm an expert yet.  I haven't built anything yet , I just understand the concepts because I have worked in semiconductors.  Yes capital and financing is a problem at this point.  Do you remember in the news back in June, John McCain wanted to give a $300M grant to someone that could come up with a better automotive battery?  Here is a CNN Link.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/23/campaign.wrap/

Now, if he was sincere, and if that was a grant and not a loan, that would be great incentive to start the Electrinium Battery Company.  But as per Mr. Summera's directive this could not be another monopolistic energy company.  This technology would have to be shared.  Which would mean an open source policy.  Other companies would be encouraged to build the Electrinium Battery.  There would educational kits to teach students of every age the concept of the Electrinium Battery.  Plans would be provided via the Internet so that every DIY guy could make his own.  Then the company itself would make money by manufacturing batteries, and not selling licenses or rights to a patent.  This is a very altruistic business model, but it is necessary if we want to spread free energy far and wide.  All too often in the modern world companies make money selling information and profiting from interest.  These are not legitimate means of earning money and we see the companies that engage in these endeavors paying the price of their bad karma.  A new paradigm in the business world needs to be formed where money is made from good work performed, and information is provided freely (No more secrets).

Broli, as for the prototyping lab there is specific equipment required, but not really a significant amount of equipment required.  We would need smelting pots to melt the silicon borozon mixture and the iron silver mixture.  A high temperature mixer to mix the silicon borozon mixture and the iron silver mixture.  A crystal growing table like they use in semiconductor fabrication houses.  A diamond saw to cut the wafers of Electrinium.  Metal forming equipment for forming the electrodes.  And, last a high temperature kiln to initialize the batteries which has a conveyor running through it so that we could develop an automated process.  All in all we would have to construct an automated battery manufacturing factory, which would be expensive, but the potential business far outweighs the startup cost considering the technologies we are dealing with.

Put a bank of Electrinium batteries in your Tesla Roadster and you would never have to recharge the car, EVER!  Do the same with a Toyota Prius or a Chevy Volt and your will never have to stop at the gas station, EVER!  Cell phones, portable radios, power tools, laptop computers, UPS units, watches, test equipment, handheld GPS, lawn equipment, electric cars, wireless lights, aircraft, spacecraft, satellites, the list goes on and on, everything can use this technology. 

Blessed Be...

Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm sure I read somewhere about serious attempts to reproduce what is described in the pdf file, but it couldn't be got to work - or is there actually some physical proof available somewhere that this is more then just a nice idea?

You need to be more specific than "somewhere" Sprocket, check this article out;

http://pesn.com/2007/12/06/9500462_ElectriniumBattery/

Seems to me that z monkey is our semi conductor guy, someone with an oven our baker and a crystal grower finally who I believe are a few here.