You guys worry me. Don't go thinking that if something weird comes floating out of the sky it will definitely be friendly. You've all seen 'Independence Day', right? Don't be the guy standing with a placard on top of a tall building.

Nomen lun

I think  in  general  the  more  power  a  group of people have the  greater  the chance  is that they  will use it wisely .

A  group that could  make a ship  2000 miles long  has technology that we  probably won't even be able to imagine  for many  years.

How  much  of this  technology would be available  to  an  individual?   How much  damage   could  one of these people  do  with this high  tech  stuff if they  chose to  use it  for negative purposes?


Lets  look at humanity  for  example .     We can  hardly  even  maintain  one   space station .     
If you  were to  give   humanity  some  high  technology  we would use it   for  our own  selfish  desires ..........and  end up  doing  damage  with it   

Humanity   is  right on  the edge of self destruction in many ways .       If we  don't nuke ourselves  we  are likely  to destroy the  ability of  earth to support life.      WE  can't  be trusted .   WE  are to selfish   and narrow minded  to  be able to handle  any  real  power  without  turning it  against  others .   

A  race of people  that  have the power  to  build  a 2000  mile long  ship   has the  power to  destroy itself in  an almost infinite number of ways.    There is  no way  that  they  could  protect themselves from their own technology if they  were  basically hostile.

gary


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Perhaps channeling is not as weird as it might seem. It is currently a trend word and I hope we will find better terms for it, without the mysticism around it. Most of the Old Testament is channeled (how else got the information here anyway, since the books were written by humans). Some of the New Testament is channeled (Yeshua was pretty good at it). Other prophets channel (also their own self). In fact, everybody can (learn to) channel. And channel almost everybody and everything (that has consciousness, which would be all). A composer who writes a whole CD's worth of music in two hours: inspiration = channeling. A message therapist whose "hands know" exactly what to do: intuition = channeling. A programmer who can write beautiful code. Somebody who is praying and then listens (= meditation), whether priest or not. A scientist who gets a (metaphorical) light bulb lit. Somebody who has a green thumb (channels whom??).

So as you can tune into a radio station you can also tune into consciousness, and the quality may vary: uplifting, sad, scary, truth, comedy, many commercials, no commercials...  So what needs practice is what is the right station for you and how to avoid interferences to have a clear channel. And as in the military, there are also jammers.

People have channeled all the time. Now it's somewhat easier, also because it can be more openly practiced (besides of other reasons). Nowadays it doesn't have to be done in secrecy, and a spooky environment is not necessary, that's just for show.

BTW, regarding Hollywood movies: I don't think most of them are well balanced (US hero saves the world, all foreigners are clueless idiots but speak fluent English -- come on!).

Orbs

I agree 

channeling is  a good description of  how  much of the  information was recieved .

WHat I find totally  unbelievable  is that  a living  and loving God   would  expect  us  to   follow   ONE 2000  year old set of teachings and refuse to  comunicate with is  in any way .   .......and more  unbelievable  still .....we are told that  we will be punished FOREVER  if  we make the wrong  choice in this  life.   

I  want no part  of a  God  that is  so petty and  cruel.



Fortunately   the  evil  that is taught  about  God  is the work of  humanity ....not of   God .

God is love .......that is all that we really need to know

God IS  trying to comunicate  with ALL of us ALL the time . 
The  religions  of the world can't  allow us to  listen to  our hearts because  they fear loosing their  "power  base"

gary

@Sean

Did you already make the video of a fake ship to post on Oct 14th?  Some good Sc-Fi here!    You have a great imagination... you should write books. 

Jason

Edit: To all who have supposedly been communicating with aliens... Did you forget to ask how to make an OU device?.. Hehe. 

Come on... show us how to do something *kinetic or *pathic while "wide awake" without a trip to the new age store for crystals or a "must read" report for $9.95...

Maybe not coherent enough for you: Have you ever stared at somebody from behind? If they are not too concentrated doing something they will start feeling watched and look around. Now, I found that interesting. I did experiment with that when I was using the train or bus. So I found that it's not actually the staring (maybe in the beginning it is) but the focus one keeps. Like, if you practice it a little you can scan for a person and then just hold your mental focus a little but look somewhere else (this also doesn't require much concentration or other force). It can also depend in what emotional state you are, and how open (heart). For example, some women love being watched and as soon as they feel it they will react differently. Some are not so aware of how this works (but many are!) and for example simply put their hair in place. You can do a lot of experiments. Be playful, do it in a non-manipulating way (like, let yourself get caught doing it or reveal yourself by smiling [not necessarily in the person's direction]).

Another thing to play with would be the contagiousness of smiling. If you're really in a good mood (not just pretending to be smiling like for example the culture is asking for), you will notice that if you for example walk around a corner, some people will also have a smile on their face, without first having seen you. Maybe to have an honest smile is not always so easy to have at first (and some people might even think you are retarded or up to something), but it's also an inner state and can be practiced (wide awake). Maybe the first few times you might "fake it until you make it." 

I think it is pretty interesting topics like this have been showing up on this inventor's forum.

Inventors and experimenters are a very important part of our future as a species.

I think one of the things to bring out is that we humans are the ones that must drive the engines of improvement. We must see the improvements in our imagination.  Already many folks are no longer believing the BS from the centuries. I think this is a large part of the explanation that we could be getting some help. We are not praying in weakness and supplication. We are just in way over our heads and we could use some help.

This is how it could be possible for another race to help us.

Recently a string of events led me to a website that has been around for 10 years, but I managed to miss.

http://wingmakers.com/

Have a look. There are over 100 pages, but you will not be sorry.

There are embedded codes that awaken deep level interest in the information. There are paintings, poetry, music, philosophical writings, and a novelized account of how the discovery came to be.

It also shows a lot about stuff deep inside the government's security and technology. - to levels way beyond anything the good folks on youtube even mention.

Be sure to read the 8 chapters of the book as well as the interviews. (the interviews pick up where the novel lets off.)

After reading these pages, one might have a much better understanding of the reasons a very large ship might come here for 3 days and merely hover. I am curious myself and will surely look up on Oct 14th. (I hope the skies are clear )

jeanna

From my  POV, there's a chance of something happening on that October 14th in particular, but not much.

I never pay attention to "channeled material" not because I think such thing is impossible, but because I know that whenever somobody believes to be channeling a "higher being" or "an ascended master" or whatever you like to call it, he is simply in contact whit a kind of entity that is known, to those that rule the world, by the name of "spirits of error". These beings exist and have a taste of abusing of human stupidity and gullibility. These "spirits of error" are abundant, and they are the responsible of the whole chapter of spiritism related phenomena.

They have access to higuer truths, and thats what make them so atractive and wise in the eyes of their "followers". You must have heard of the most famous channelers like the one of Commander Ashtar Sherahan, Kryon, Ascended Master Saint Germain, etc, etc and the unfamous Sheldan Needle "Golden Tree" website, ah, and never forget the "Bon Giovanni" chapter.

That whole load of bullcrap is real, in the sense that there is a real contact with a "spiritual being", but then stops all the good that can be said about it, because the spirits of error have one and only goal: To make many people go the wrong way and believe in silly things.

Don't tell me I did not warn you.

Sorry Sean.. I meant @z.monkey... I'll keep an open mind, but this is some pretty far out stuff and has been talked about in this thread like it is fact.

Jason

Howdy Y'all,

Shooter001, Lucifer was an Archangel that rebelled against Heavens Divine plan.  He was uncreated by Christ Michael 20 years ago.  Aton is another name for Christ Michael, whose name is actually very long and is called many things by many cultures.  I am not familiar with Enlil and Enki.

Orbs, Yeah, receiving information from your spirit could be considered channeling.  This includes soul memory, communications with other spirits, communications with higher beings.  This encompasses any non-physical information exchange in the Etheric, Astral, and Mental Planes...

Resonanceman, Yeah they have a million years of engineering advancement over us, VERY sophisticated technology.

Hypersoniq, Your "third eye" is not a physical thing.  You have Etheric clairvoyance, Astral clairvoyance and Mental clairvoyance which can be perceived by you physical brain when you are advanced enough and you DNA chains are fully activated.  Someone has to have the spiritual advancement to utilize these these things.

4Tesla, Yes, they are going to give us plans for OU/FE devices.

CLaNZeR, One's reality is based on his perception of things which are not on the physical plane.  In essence one level of knowledge defines their reality.  When one opens their spiritual eyes (third eye, etheric, astral, and mental perception) ones reality changes drastically. 

Newbie123, the pink unicorns have hooves.  They have no opposable thumbs to hold tools therefore they could not have built an interdimensional starship to come visit Earth on 10/14/2008.

Jeanna, you have a marvelous jewel there.  The wingmakers material repaired my DNA.  I have sound tracks that I made from the DNA chamber music.  I listen to them when I am working.  It has been 4 weeks or so and I have noticed the difference.  It is probably that material which makes it seem to some people here that I have lost my bloody mind.  The contrary is true, I found my MIND (Mental Body).  You are on the right track there, go get it...

ChileanOne, The pieces of the puzzle lie all about our planet.  All we have to do is find them...

4Tesla, Truth is indeed stranger than fiction...

Subtle truths are stored in many stories.  You take a piece from here a nibble from there and start putting the real story together from all these pieces that you find it starts to build the truth.  The truth of our heritage has been very carefully hidden from us by our former malefactors.  It is up to us to figure out the puzzle.  It is hard to do, but not impossible.  The coming ship is going to help us to put the pieces together, then we will know beyond a shadow of a doubt that we are children of the stars placed here to experience creation as our benevolent creator intended.

Blessed Be...