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fuzzytomcat

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Re: 911 , a short clip
« Reply #75 on: September 05, 2008, 05:17:36 AM »
But you still haven't presented the specific evidence which supports the existence of molten steel under the towers.  I asked you what your source was, and you replied:

How can we address the alleged molten steel before you show us your evidence?


Hey madsen,

I think this is what Cap-Z-ro is referring to not much to it again... http://www.antichristconspiracy.com/PDFDocs/The_Real_Culprits_Behind_911.pdf .......worth reading though I guess ??

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« Reply #76 on: September 05, 2008, 01:04:01 PM »
Dead ended linkage=end of debate/game

Cap-Z-ro,
Is this what your referring to -

http://www.antichristconspiracy.com/PDFDocs/The_Real_Culprits_Behind_911.pdf

Page 39 - Footnote or End Notes #89 "Christopher Bollyn" Link Missing

Fuzzy

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« Reply #77 on: September 05, 2008, 05:35:23 PM »
Hey madsen,

I think this is what Cap-Z-ro is referring to not much to it again... http://www.antichristconspiracy.com/PDFDocs/The_Real_Culprits_Behind_911.pdf .......worth reading though I guess ??

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Fuzzy

Wow---that guy's quite the whack job, isn't he?   :o

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Re: 911 , a short clip
« Reply #78 on: September 05, 2008, 08:02:51 PM »

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2144933190875239407&ei=92rBSMSMOIbe-wGQvM2aCQ&q=fabled+enemies&hl=en
this is pretty convincing

I think im done here....people will believe any lie either because they want it to be true or they are afraid it is true

when it finnaly comes out what really happend (like jfk) we will all be too old to care or do anything about it anyway, maybe our kids will care(yeah...)




fuzzytomcat

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Re: 911 , a short clip
« Reply #79 on: September 05, 2008, 08:29:47 PM »
Wow---that guy's quite the whack job, isn't he?   :o


Hey madsen,

If this is what Cap-Z-ro is referring to it is quite unfortunate, it seems that many of the odd and angry opinions come from DVD's that are available on the internet. The FCC made it illegal to add "subliminal messages" to movies because of the dangers that exist, and the MPAA ( Motion Picture of America Association ) makes sure this isn't used today. There are no rules or laws using this subliminal technique on private DVD's and is being used daily one only has to look for it. What has happend is the truth movement now look something like a bunch of Johansisburg "Koolaid" drinkers because of their experts.

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Re: 911 , a short clip
« Reply #80 on: September 05, 2008, 09:42:29 PM »

@ PYRODIN123321

You noticed where all this was heading huh ? :)


"I think im done here....people will believe any lie either because they want it to be true or they are afraid it is true"


...or they purposely perpetuate the official lie.

Suspicions are aroused when legitimate facts are met with sketchy replies punctuated with personal insults.

The time for debating the issue has long become regressive.

There remains a shrinking minority who refuse to acknowledge anything until they hear it from "trusted" news anchors or other media heads swaying public opinion with lies of omission....and those of us who have come to realize the truth at some point along the way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onNzrNEFs1E

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Re: 911 , a short clip
« Reply #81 on: September 06, 2008, 02:42:11 AM »
Hey madsen,

If this is what Cap-Z-ro is referring to it is quite unfortunate, it seems that many of the odd and angry opinions come from DVD's that are available on the internet. The FCC made it illegal to add "subliminal messages" to movies because of the dangers that exist, and the MPAA ( Motion Picture of America Association ) makes sure this isn't used today. There are no rules or laws using this subliminal technique on private DVD's and is being used daily one only has to look for it. What has happend is the truth movement now look something like a bunch of Johansisburg "Koolaid" drinkers because of their experts.

Regards,
Fuzzy

Yes, that would be unfortunate, but I think it's fair to give Cap-Z-ro the benefit of the doubt and not presume he is basing any of his views on Edward Hendrie's stuff.  He is waaay out there. 

Do you have any screencaps showing subliminal messages on DVD's?  I hadn't heard that those were being used.   :)

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« Reply #82 on: September 06, 2008, 02:49:12 AM »
Suspicions are aroused when legitimate facts are met with sketchy replies punctuated with personal insults.

 ??? 

That's not how I saw it.  You made an assertion and then declined to provide any evidence.  Is that supposed to be persuasive?

fuzzytomcat

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« Reply #83 on: September 06, 2008, 04:40:08 AM »
Yes, that would be unfortunate, but I think it's fair to give Cap-Z-ro the benefit of the doubt and not presume he is basing any of his views on Edward Hendrie's stuff.  He is waaay out there. 

Do you have any screencaps showing subliminal messages on DVD's?  I hadn't heard that those were being used.   :)

Hi madsen,

Your right on Cap-Z-ro and I wasn't thinking that his views are the same, after all the stuff I have seen this was the only thing that fit what his "clues" were, total speculation on my part if this was it.

And as for the subliminal messages [ reply #50 this thread ] there is more than one would think, it's so easy to do with any video editing program. I made a short video years ago for a college project about 20 minuets long, at the time no one knew what was on it but me and the professor. Embedded was 310 single frames of a photo of a man or a women using a toilet by the end of the short film out of 37 that saw it, 6 left before the end and 17 left right at the end to use the restroom, it was hard not to laugh but I managed somehow. The FCC outlawed it years ago because its way to easy to do and the results are documented over and over again.

Regards,
Fuzzy

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« Reply #84 on: September 06, 2008, 04:51:21 AM »
Hi madsen,

Your right on Cap-Z-ro and I wasn't thinking that his views are the same, after all the stuff I have seen this was the only thing that fit what his "clues" were, total speculation on my part if this was it.

And as for the subliminal messages [ reply #50 this thread ] there is more than one would think, it's so easy to do with any video editing program. I made a short video years ago for a college project about 20 minuets long, at the time no one knew what was on it but me and the professor. Embedded was 310 single frames of a photo of a man or a women using a toilet by the end of the short film out of 37 that saw it, 6 left before the end and 17 left right at the end to use the restroom, it was hard not to laugh but I managed somehow. The FCC outlawed it years ago because its way to easy to do and the results are documented over and over again.

Regards,
Fuzzy

Wow---interesting stuff!

Are you saying that subliminal messages were actually put into 911 truth videos though?  If so, do you have any examples you could share with us?

BTW, anyone else having difficulty with the forum earlier today?  It seems back to normal now, but I was getting weird error messages all day.


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Re: 911 , a short clip
« Reply #85 on: September 06, 2008, 07:52:08 AM »
Wow---interesting stuff!

Are you saying that subliminal messages were actually put into 911 truth videos though?  If so, do you have any examples you could share with us?

BTW, anyone else having difficulty with the forum earlier today?  It seems back to normal now, but I was getting weird error messages all day.



Yes many of these 9/11 truther videos are subliminal modified, but a 1 hour of video takes approximately 100 hours to look at frame by frame, I couldn't have done this myself and if not for the others that helped put this together for a non profit idea we worked out between us that I can only be kind of a messenger now. The evidence is there for anyone to see, just "acquire" some DVD's, P2P torrent downloads are free or originals from the truther sites and be a detective, just start with the most popular videos  ::) and work your way down. The more people that find these subliminal messages on there own the better at this point. It shouldn't be to long before this is released hopefully and there are still several things we need to do to tie up some loose ends that are left.

I think Stephan must have moved the forum to the new server, I've had the same problems today.

Regards,
Fuzzy

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Re: 911 , a short clip
« Reply #86 on: September 14, 2008, 09:03:06 AM »
here is what im having a problem understanding........


...after watching simple things like house fires,factory fires......let alone MASSIVE building fires...there still standing WELL after an hour of less then 20% of it being on fire, even FULLY engulfed...there still standing after an hour and fire fighters are reported to have spent HOURS getting things under control yet there still standing...so im puzzled...the 2nd building that was hit fell down first..hmmmm.......then WT7 ..... falls down ALL on its own, about 15 mins AFTER the BBC reports that its fallen down all ready when you can plainly see it STILL standing behind the reporters head....its sticking out the side of her head......she could be standing any place, but she chooses to stand in front of it.

...both the world trade centers that fell down are reported to be the first buildings in HISTORY to fall down like this ( apart from controlled demo stuff ).....and wt7 is not even mentioned.

so looking at this clip, with out reading any of it or listening to it, but just watching it. whats your gut feeling ?.
..would your home fall down and turn to dust in less then one hour of 20% being on fire...im pretty sure mine wouldnt.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xv1MIDF2XM4 

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« Reply #87 on: September 14, 2008, 04:29:55 PM »
so looking at this clip, with out reading any of it or listening to it, but just watching it. whats your gut feeling ?.
..would your home fall down and turn to dust in less then one hour of 20% being on fire...im pretty sure mine wouldnt.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xv1MIDF2XM4 

The official theory, as I understand it, is that the steel in the floors immediately around the crash site was weakened by the heat of the fire.  At some point, these few floors collapsed, which caused the rest of the building above to start moving downward.  Once this process started, it was all over, because the building was not designed to withstand the forces generated by the top section falling onto the rest.  The top floors acted like a giant wrecking ball, taking down the rest of the building. 

Of course this is basically impossible in a normal 1 or 2-story house, but there is a lot more potential energy stored in a 110-story building. 

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« Reply #88 on: September 15, 2008, 12:48:55 AM »
The official theory, as I understand it, is that the steel in the floors immediately around the crash site was weakened by the heat of the fire.  At some point, these few floors collapsed, which caused the rest of the building above to start moving downward.  Once this process started, it was all over, because the building was not designed to withstand the forces generated by the top section falling onto the rest.  The top floors acted like a giant wrecking ball, taking down the rest of the building. 

Of course this is basically impossible in a normal 1 or 2-story house, but there is a lot more potential energy stored in a 110-story building. 

..lol what fire ?...see the massive explosion on impact?(thats your heat source being blown off in seconds).....then a lot of black smoke, just like you see when you put out a fire right away ....just smoldering black smoke..in all the clips ive looked at over the last 7 years ive NEVER seen fire, have you ?,has anyone ?.
...how about that building that was FULLY on fire for 20 hours or more in the clip,was still standing the next day.

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« Reply #89 on: September 15, 2008, 01:12:12 AM »
..lol what fire ?...see the massive explosion on impact?(thats your heat source being blown off in seconds).....then a lot of black smoke, just like you see when you put out a fire right away ....just smoldering black smoke..in all the clips ive looked at over the last 7 years ive NEVER seen fire, have you ?,has anyone ?.
...how about that building that was FULLY on fire for 20 hours or more in the clip,was still standing the next day.


So these buildings are not on fire?  Seriously?

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