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khabe

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Re: 911 , a short clip
« Reply #60 on: September 03, 2008, 03:25:30 PM »
To everyone whos able to think,
Lets reckon with airplane speed, sizes, weight and fuel capaticy,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gH02Eh44yUg&feature=related
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fuzzytomcat

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Re: 911 , a short clip
« Reply #61 on: September 03, 2008, 08:53:11 PM »
Quote from: khabe on September 03, 2008, 10:31:39 AM
hi surmisers,
do you have any idea about capacity of fuel tanks of Boeing?
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html?page=4

Hi Khabe,

Such a straight forward and easy question -

A "Boeing 767" has a capacity between 12,140 to 16,700 US gallons of Jet ( Kerosene ) fuel,

http://www.boeing.com/commercial/airports/acaps/767.pdf       ( Page 13 )

Best Regards,
Fuzzy
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khabe

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Re: 911 , a short clip
« Reply #62 on: September 03, 2008, 10:06:25 PM »
Yeah, I know that. Just astonishing that some people thinking its not enough (40T of  kerosene) to soften steel beams when impact has damaged part of frames and removed fire protect coatings - there was huge mass of load above! How many beams has been broken ... how many damaged  - at least a little bid crooked? Thats enough!  Steel beam, when no fire-protecting coated (was removed by impact) looses his strenght far before becoming fully red by heat - at that there burned not only kerosene - also hundred tons of aluminium, plastic, wood and all happend in extreme ample current of air as via horizontal as well as by amount of shafts of elevators, communications, electrics ... 
Max upper limit is 600 C degrees for the best of high alloy steels and 370 C degrees for mild steel,
Self-crooking of steel profiles beginning much more before especially when heat comes choppy,

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Cap-Z-ro

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Re: 911 , a short clip
« Reply #63 on: September 03, 2008, 11:18:20 PM »


Lets put aside the freefall speed of the collapsing buildings for a moment.

The burning issue which remains ignored to this day is...the presence of 12 separate deposits of molten steel found 3 months later at the 12 corners of the 3 buildings - 3 stories down...where the support structure of the buildings was located.

According to demolition experts the fact that the steel remained molten without a source of oxygen is indicative of thermite...commonly used to 'pull' tall buildings.

Teslsa is dead, so it couldn't be his doing.

Regards...

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madsen

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Re: 911 , a short clip
« Reply #64 on: September 03, 2008, 11:46:21 PM »
Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on September 03, 2008, 11:18:20 PM

Lets put aside the freefall speed of the collapsing buildings for a moment.

The burning issue which remains ignored to this day is...the presence of 12 separate deposits of molten steel found 3 months later at the 12 corners of the 3 buildings - 3 stories down...where the support structure of the buildings was located.

According to demolition experts the fact that the steel remained molten without a source of oxygen is indicative of thermite...commonly used to 'pull' tall buildings.

Teslsa is dead, so it couldn't be his doing.

Regards...

There seem to be some problems with the stories of molten steel, as described here.  What is the source of your information on this?

Also, according to this page, the use of the word "pull" in the demolition industry is a little different than you indicated above:

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Conspiracy theorists say "Pull" is a term used by demolition experts. This is one of those many half truths conspiracy theorists use to convince the ignorant. "Pull" is used when they "Pull" a building away from another with cables during demolition.
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Cap-Z-ro

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Re: 911 , a short clip
« Reply #65 on: September 04, 2008, 12:28:24 AM »

Lets stick with the molten steel/thermite issue.

The information is there for all to see...do your own due diligence.

Find out for yourself - take no ones word on anything...except for your mother.

Regards...


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fuzzytomcat

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Re: 911 , a short clip
« Reply #66 on: September 04, 2008, 02:58:40 AM »
Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on September 04, 2008, 12:28:24 AM
Lets stick with the molten steel/thermite issue.

The information is there for all to see...do your own due diligence.

Find out for yourself - take no ones word on anything...except for your mother.

Regards...




Hi Cap-Z-ro,

Your right there is a great website on the thermite issue, thanks for the information !!

http://www.debunking911.com/thermite.htm

Regards,
Fuzzy

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fuzzytomcat

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Re: 911 , a short clip
« Reply #67 on: September 04, 2008, 11:53:00 AM »
Quote from: PYRODIN123321 on September 02, 2008, 05:10:07 PM
HAS ANY ONE HEARD OF A "PHASE CONJUGATE MIRROR"
I BELIEVE IT CAN CREATE HOLOGRAMS  AND OTHER COOL EFFECTS

SO IT COULD HAVE BEEN A MISSLE OR ANYTHING REALLY WITH A HOLOGRAM AROUND IT

 I KNOW ITS OUT THERE BUT ITS NOT IMPOSSIBLE IF THE TECH EXISTS SOMEBODY WILL USE IT FOR THEIR OWN ENDS

LOOK AT THIS

TIME-REVERSED ACOUSTICS (FROM ANOTHER SITE)
Don Albert of the U.S. Army's Cold Regions Research and Engineering Laboratory will discuss a system that uses "time-reversal" acoustics to pinpoint the exact locations of gunfire and explosions in an urban environment. A network of simple audio sensors records sounds in an urban area; a computer then generates backwards versions of the sound waves and broadcasts the reversed versions in a virtual urban environment. The waves eventually return and focus at the original source point, enabling researchers to pinpoint the location of a sound, such as an explosion or gunshot.


(FROM ANOTHER SITE)
Laboratoire Ondes et Acoustique, ESPCI, France, will discuss an idea for transforming all objects in a room into touch-sensitive, remote control devices, even if they don't run on electricity. The idea is the following: touch any object in a room, and an acoustic detector records the sound or vibration from a touch. Then, employing a scheme known as "time-reversed" acoustics, the detector sends a reversed version of the soundwave to the object. After sending soundwaves back and forth several times between source and detector, the system is able to pinpoint exactly where the object lies in the room. One can therefore create "virtual switches" that perform certain functions in response to touch. (Paper 5aEA9)


I THINK YOU CAN DO THIS WITH ELECTROMAGNETIC WAVES TOO (NOT SURE, CORRECT ME IF IM WRONG!!)

BUT BEFORE YOU GUYS SHOOT ME DOWN
-WHAT DO I KNOW-
 LOOK IT UP YOURSELF THE PATENTS ARE FLOATING AROUND OUT THERE
ITS JUST MY VIEW THAT ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE AND WE SHOULD FIGURE OUT WHATS PLAUSABLE
(PS -I DONT CARE ABOUT SPEELLING)

Hey PYRODIN123321,

Your ideas are fairly creative but just looking at the first one it has only been done in labrotary or so called controlled conditions with small objects not a Boeing 747 Jet .

http://patimg2.uspto.gov/.piw?docid=US005729380&PageNum=1&&IDKey=DFF9AA40D022&HomeUrl=http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1%2526Sect2=HITOFF%2526d=PALL%2526p=1%2526u=%25252Fnetahtml%25252FPTO%25252Fsrchnum.htm%2526r=1%2526f=G%2526l=50%2526s1=5729380.PN.%2526OS=PN/5729380%2526RS=PN/5729380

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=5729380.PN.&OS=PN/5729380&RS=PN/5729380

http://sharp.bu.edu/~slehar/PhaseConjugate/PhaseConjugate.html

This would have to be done with four way mixing ...... da da da da da da ....... no way.

I'm sure your very concerned as I am but without "facts" that can or could actually work you cannot believe everything that may work.

Again if this information is from a DVD video from a so called expert of 9/11 be very careful the content maybe tainted with "Subliminal" messages embedded in the video.  [ reply #50 ]

Regards,
Fuzzy
« Last Edit: September 04, 2008, 12:27:32 PM by fuzzytomcat »
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PYRODIN123321

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Re: 911 , a short clip
« Reply #68 on: September 04, 2008, 03:52:56 PM »
Fuzzy,
I agree that it was most likely NOT done like that, that was more of an example of how it could have been somthing(anything) other than what we were told happened.

thanks for the warning, I am skeptical of just about everything-the stuff on here particularly(no offence anybody)
but everybody knows as far as tech goes what the government shows the public is baby stuff to what they acually have (skunkworks)
but I guess it just makes a good conspiracy theory untill you have proof
By the way I think fema/or some other agengcy- NSA maybe-hauled everything away and destroyed it so we would have no proof



I see stuff like this and I doubt that its just a coicidence


(http://www.ae911truth.org/images/gallery/squibs.jpg)
 
 
   
Numerous Squibs (mis-timed explosions) can be seen seen 20 to 40 floors ahead of the advancing "collapse". NIST claims that they are "puffs of air" created from the pancaking floors above. But there are no pancaking floors above, they are not air but pulverized building materials, they occur precisely at the center of the building in an "open office plan", and finally, the 160 to 200 feet per second speed of this debris suggests they could only have been propelled by explosives.
(http://www.ae911truth.org/images/gallery/case4EDcardback.jpg)

 

 Ps: sorry for the caps before I'm a draftsman and everything is always in CAPS
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PYRODIN123321

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Re: 911 , a short clip
« Reply #69 on: September 04, 2008, 04:03:15 PM »
www.pat2pdf.org

you can download patents here too, i had problems with em' (illustrations dont come up)
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Cap-Z-ro

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« Reply #70 on: September 04, 2008, 11:59:51 PM »
"Hi Cap-Z-ro,

Your right there is a great website on the thermite issue, thanks for the information !!

http://www.debunking911.com/thermite.htm

Regards,
Fuzzy"



And still no interest in addressing the molten steel under the towers...only te offering up of a link to some debunking site which also avoids the issue.

We haven't even gotten to the victims severely burned in the explosions.

There almost seems to be a determined effort to ignore the fact that the vast majority believe the official story's are all lies.

Debating this issue further is doing just what the deceivers wish...spinning your wheels.

The issue should be when the public lynchings are to begin and where.

Regards...

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madsen

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Re: 911 , a short clip
« Reply #71 on: September 05, 2008, 12:12:57 AM »
Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on September 04, 2008, 11:59:51 PM
And still no interest in addressing the molten steel under the towers...only te offering up of a link to some debunking site which also avoids the issue.

But you still haven't presented the specific evidence which supports the existence of molten steel under the towers.  I asked you what your source was, and you replied:

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The information is there for all to see...do your own due diligence.

Find out for yourself - take no ones word on anything...except for your mother.

How can we address the alleged molten steel before you show us your evidence?
« Last Edit: September 05, 2008, 12:36:54 AM by madsen »
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Cap-Z-ro

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Re: 911 , a short clip
« Reply #72 on: September 05, 2008, 03:24:48 AM »

Dead ended linkage=end of debate/game
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madsen

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« Reply #73 on: September 05, 2008, 03:47:02 AM »
Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on September 05, 2008, 03:24:48 AM
Dead ended linkage=end of debate/game

I don't get your meaning.  As far as I can tell, the debate hasn't even begun.  You said there was molten steel found under the towers, indicating foul play.  Of course there are lots of websites discussing this issue, both pro and con, so it would be helpful if we could focus the discussion somewhat.  I'm asking for what you believe is the best specific evidence for the molten steel---not just an allegation and a direction to "do my own due diligence".  You have the floor.
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Cap-Z-ro

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« Reply #74 on: September 05, 2008, 04:49:37 AM »

I'll not be running to find information to have unrelated links tossed up as a response.

Those truly interested in facts will do their own fact finding.

The art of circular debate is not my forte or interest...so the floor is no longer mine.


Regards...




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