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Author Topic: I want a Newman machine  (Read 16513 times)

cafeinst

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I want a Newman machine
« on: August 14, 2008, 06:02:24 PM »
Because gas and electricity costs so much money now, I've been drawn to reading about alternative energy on the internet. I became convinced that it is possible to harness energy much more efficiently than what we have been doing, from reading Lee-Tseung lead out theory and also watching videos of Milkovic's mechanical machine.

I have also come across Newman's machine. Although I don't understand how it works yet, I am convinced based on the videos that I have seen on youtube.com that it probably is the real thing.

Hence, I am interested in either buying one of these machines or buying the parts in order to build it myself, after I understand how it works. My goal is to reduce my electricity bill.

So I ask the good people of the forum that I have just joined, what is the best way for me to accomplish this goal? Has anyone had success in doing this, reducing their electricity bill via a Newman machine?

Thank you,
Craig

onlov

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Re: I want a Newman machine
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2008, 07:15:05 PM »
Hah..hah, reducing electricity bill vith the Newman machine!

Newman machine = Mix of nonsense, misunderstanding and scam.

National Bureau of Standards (NBS) test results of Newman motor:

http://www.ncas.org/nbsreport/contents.html

Do You know, Newman motor is also a weather machine! ;D

http://www.rexresearch.com/wells/wells.htm
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4341.0.html

onlov

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Re: I want a Newman machine
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2008, 08:39:07 AM »
If features of the Newman motor would be like Mr. Newman claims, it would be exellent for running electric genererator. (Newman claim: It get over 8 times mechanical output as electric input.)

But this claim is not true. It's only deliriums of mad man or pure scam... :(

willitwork

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Re: I want a Newman machine
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2008, 09:43:34 AM »
You are not alone in wanting a working Newman Machine.

The proprietor of this website is also trying to build one:

http://josephnewman.com/

onlov

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Re: I want a Newman machine
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2008, 10:59:51 AM »
http://www.phact.org/e/dennis4.html
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Joseph Newman in 1984 claimed to have a free energy machine based on alternative physics. Like many perpetual motion inventors, he sued the US patent office. Many people wrongly measured the true power output of this machine, (they didn't realize you must specially calculate power for non sinusoidal current consumption). He now refuses to ship a unit for testing. Ten years ago, inventor Joseph Newman gave a open week-long demonstration  in the Super dome in New Orleans. Over 9,000 people attended from across the country (including Dennis Lee who reportedly wanted to join his ideas with Newman. ) Newman is suing some former investors he claims are trying to steal his invention. I give more information. Evan Soule of Newman's organization offers a rebuttal

Some sites, which drop you back on the surface of the earth from the clouds!
http://www.randi.org/jr/03-22-2000.html
http://www.phact.org/e/skeptic/newlee.htm
http://www.phact.org/e/skeptic/newman.htm
http://www.phact.org/e/dennis19.html
http://www.phact.org/e/skeptic/biss.htm
http://www.eskimo.com/~billb/freenrg/fnrg.html

cafeinst

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Re: I want a Newman machine
« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2008, 03:39:10 AM »
I joined this forum to talk to believers, not skeptics. Are there any believers out there?

Michelinho

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Re: I want a Newman machine
« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2008, 06:04:27 AM »


Hi cafeinst,

The Newman motor is low rpm high torque and high efficiency. This thing will do work for cheap but it is an expensive motor to build (to do actual work), it has to be heavy to do it and the commutator has to be used as it was designed.

These are the limitations that keep it off the commercial markets of today. His smallest and latest motor weights in at 400 lb.

I would look for solar if you have a little to spend and wait for what is still eluding us.

Define your specific needs and see if the Newman motor is for you.

Take care,

Michel

willitwork

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Re: I want a Newman machine
« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2008, 07:07:34 AM »
Hi cafeinst,

I am a believer, but that does not mean I believe everything that I read. If a Newman machine gets so much more out than in why can't anyone produce a self runner? Now some give really esoteric reasons that the output shaft cannot be used to power the input source. But Newman insists that the output can pump water and power cars. If you can use the output shaft to pump water you sure can use it to drive a generator that charges the batteries.

The truth appears to be that no one has done that because no one can do it ... at least not with a Newman.

cafeinst

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Re: I want a Newman machine
« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2008, 09:14:38 PM »
Here is a comment and also a question for all skeptics:

Comment: I've watched youtube videos (from amateurs building Newman machines and running them on very little energy) and seen with my own eyes that the Newman machine actually does accomplish more work than is put in. I think I understand why this is so, as I believe that the Newman machine is really the same thing in principle as the Milkovic machine, except that the Newman machine runs on EM force while the Milkovic machine runs on gravity. Obviously, the Milkovic machine accomplishes more work than is put in, so there is no reason why the Newman machine shouldn't do this too.

Question for skeptics: Why are you skeptics so dismissive of the Newman machine? Do you have a problem with the principle behind the Newman machine or do you have a problem with its practicality?

Michelinho

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Re: I want a Newman machine
« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2008, 11:51:43 PM »

Re cafeinst,

As I said before the Newman motor does not run on free energy, it may produce some but not worth the time.

If you really want FREE ENERGY, check out the Stubblefield cell or the TPU thread where I think we are on the sent now so to speak and is theoretically plausible.

Take care,

Michel

Free energy is not bemf which Newman use to propel his motor instead of charging sources.

Michelinho

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Re: I want a Newman machine
« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2008, 06:54:50 AM »
The Newman motor theory formula:

E=mc2 (L)

L is the coil.

Work with this formula.

Michel

willitwork

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Re: I want a Newman machine
« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2008, 10:43:38 AM »
Hi cafeinst,

Your question about skeptics made me look in the mirror for a bit. Here are my reservations about the Newman Motor. Some of them are emotional.

It feels like Newman can't be trusted. That's emotional I know, but it does feel that way.

Mr Biss diary of his dealings with Newman are, I think really telling. Stephan has been in touch with Mr Biss and would disagree with me. This is also an emotional response on my part.

As soon as I saw the Newman machine on Youtube I started looking for a wire and bearing supplier. It seemed that this machine is the real deal. But the nagging question would not go away. If this thing really gives that much extra energy, (or power or whatever) how come none of the Youtube builders ever made a self runner? How come Newman hasn't? I will ask that question again: How come Newman hasn't? If you can turn a several hundred pound shaft with a pack of small batteries you MUST be able to take power from that shaft to replace the batteries. It would take much less time to convert a "working" Newman into a self runner than it does to build the Newman itself.

The self runner issue is important because of the claims made about it. Many OU type devices claim to pull only small amounts of power from the vacuum or wherever. There is a need to investigate these, understand where and how the gain occurs and exploit it. With the Newman we constantly hear claims exceeding 10 times more out than in. Creating a self runner should be a no brainer.

I think Newman himself believes his own press. That may be why less cynical people than I are drawn to him.

bogchiblaster

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Re: I want a Newman machine
« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2008, 05:40:17 PM »
Hi cafeinst,

Your question about skeptics made me look in the mirror for a bit. Here are my reservations about the Newman Motor. Some of them are emotional.

It feels like Newman can't be trusted. That's emotional I know, but it does feel that way.

Mr Biss diary of his dealings with Newman are, I think really telling. Stephan has been in touch with Mr Biss and would disagree with me. This is also an emotional response on my part.


Hello willitwork!

I share the same sentiment. Although I like fiddling with the Newman machine and I share as much optimism to make it work more efficiently as much as the super techno enthusiasts here like Stefan and the others, I really don't trust Mr. Newman.. Honestly.

You could say that I have more faith in the other YouTUbe guys like ray0energy, STARK, kmarinas, zeropointprophet who do the Newman machine, and at the same time show unbiased information at the results that they're getting (be it good or bad results), instead of claiming unlimited speed and power that the original inventor is doing.


Michelinho

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Re: I want a Newman machine
« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2008, 09:44:51 PM »


Hint:

If you are using low potential, you are not running a Newman motor. You are running a magnetic motor.

A Newman Motor uses HIGH VOLTAGE.

The motor will turn like a Newman motor but it is NOT using the "Newman Effect". E=MC2 (L)

Michel


willitwork

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Re: I want a Newman machine
« Reply #14 on: August 20, 2008, 10:09:46 AM »
G'day Michel,

Can you send me a link or some further detail on the "Newman Effect. E=MC2 (L)"?

I have definitely been viewing this through low voltage eyes.

thanks