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Offline Alexioco

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Bessler Wheel Found
« on: August 13, 2008, 11:05:26 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMxkziMDdjY

If you notice, the outer weights are like MT 10 but backwards and also here is the best bit, at the first shot of te wheel, you will notice MT 13, its what lifts the weights up, there is probably more to it if you study it...

Here is what I have of it up to now...

(http://i33.tinypic.com/2d10a2x.jpg)

not sure how the bottom ones are lifted up though, if you doulbe the amount of weights to make 8, you would have 4 weights on the right lifting the one weight over the round pendulum thing, clever hey?

p.s, it is not drawn to scale and of course a few adjuctments may be needed, this pic just shows how the thing seems to be lifting the weights...

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Bessler Wheel Found
« on: August 13, 2008, 11:05:26 PM »

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Re: Bessler Wheel Found
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2008, 02:00:43 AM »
Greetings Alex

This look similar to the one I posted on this string. http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,5226.0.html

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Re: Bessler Wheel Found
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2008, 02:04:38 AM »
Greetings Alex

This look similar to the one I posted on this string. http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,5226.0.html

It is, except that its longer footage and gives a better look on how it works...
Notice that MT 13 and 10 are there, i'm working on it now, the above drawing isnt not right now, its inacurate, I will post a drawing of how it works soon... (I hope)

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Re: Bessler Wheel Found
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Re: Bessler Wheel Found
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2008, 02:37:27 AM »
What I think is really interesting about this wheel that I didn't notice before is that it looks as though the balance point of the swinging arms is actually changing.    I don't know if that's actually what is happening, but it brings up a pretty interesting idea.  (Although I'm sure you all have thought of it before, since I'm rather new at this)  Instead of working on how to overbalance the arm, just change it's balance point, which will change the balance of the arm, and the wheel.  I know, easier said than done, but it's a different approach.   It looks like, in the video, the green lever arms are going over the top of the wheel, falling on the forward side, changing the balance point of the red lever, thus making the red lever fall forward.   It follows bessler's clues of weights working in pairs and separating and coming back together.

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Re: Bessler Wheel Found
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2008, 09:32:25 AM »
What I think is really interesting about this wheel that I didn't notice before is that it looks as though the balance point of the swinging arms is actually changing.    I don't know if that's actually what is happening, but it brings up a pretty interesting idea.  (Although I'm sure you all have thought of it before, since I'm rather new at this)  Instead of working on how to overbalance the arm, just change it's balance point, which will change the balance of the arm, and the wheel.  I know, easier said than done, but it's a different approach.   It looks like, in the video, the green lever arms are going over the top of the wheel, falling on the forward side, changing the balance point of the red lever, thus making the red lever fall forward.   It follows bessler's clues of weights working in pairs and separating and coming back together.

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mark

i think the red levers help lift the inward ones once the "MT 13" has done its bit, what I find strange though is, how do the weights go into the centre at the bottom and the red levers must serve more purppose than just that, and when they fall at the top, the red levers on the ascending side will have more weight wont it?

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Re: Bessler Wheel Found
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Offline greendoor

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Re: Bessler Wheel Found
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2008, 10:57:18 AM »
This seems to be basically a system of restraining the path of a falling ball into an eccentric path.  I would expect it to behave similar to a curved pipe matching the same path that you could drop a ball bearing into.  I expect it to work out at under-unity.

In the picture drawn, the two weights on the right still have some height left to fall.  But the two on the left have to rise - so I expect this to balance out, with friction & impact losses.

If we can imagine that there is an intricate mechanism that allows an over-balancing gravity wheel to sustain rotation, then try the following mind experiment:  keep on adding clones of this mechanism to the same shaft, but 180 degrees from the last one.  Each time we add another mechanism to the shaft, the power should increase and smooth out.  To the point where we have so many mechanisms on this shaft that it is basically a balanced solid flywheel ...

A balanced flywheel is pretty much as close as we can get to the ideal over-balanced wheel dream.  With low-friction bearings it can spin for an extremely long time. 

I would love to crack the Bessler wheel, but I have to consider that the energy came from somewhere we aren't considering yet.  Possibly ambiant heat ... still looking ...

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Re: Bessler Wheel Found
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2008, 11:28:23 AM »
You can hear what seem to be pneumatic pumps. I haven't fully investigated these types of wheel but in the little research I did it seems to always stop the wheel at the top.

But Alex I don't think you have the correct design there. In the video he doesn't seem to be pushing the heavy weights, they seem to remain static. he seems to be pushing these smaller pads though.

Edit: Oke scrap that, they seem to be the same kind of weights but just smaller. The outer weights seem to just make the wheel heavy.

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Re: Bessler Wheel Found
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Offline Alexioco

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Re: Bessler Wheel Found
« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2008, 11:57:02 AM »
You can hear what seem to be pneumatic pumps. I haven't fully investigated these types of wheel but in the little research I did it seems to always stop the wheel at the top.

But Alex I don't think you have the correct design there. In the video he doesn't seem to be pushing the heavy weights, they seem to remain static. he seems to be pushing these smaller pads though.

Edit: Oke scrap that, they seem to be the same kind of weights but just smaller. The outer weights seem to just make the wheel heavy.

yeah because the inward little weights are rising from the axle through the principle of MT 13 except that the design is such that the weight can go right to the axle and rest, and not like MT 13 where it can only lift quarter of a circle, the red levers I think are assisting with the lift to make sure they don?t fall back into the axle until they make it to the top, bessler also drew bellows which I think something similar is being used which all together make the "clatter" noise, the prime mover...
Having said that though, I might be wrong...

Alex

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Re: Bessler Wheel Found
« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2008, 03:15:51 AM »
Here is a copy of the patent that I found online for this.
(I think)

Talk a look and see if this helps.

I think I saw some pistons on the parts list.
That would be the sound I guess?

http://www.computer-geek.net/KGEplans.pdf

Rich

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Re: Bessler Wheel Found
« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2008, 03:15:51 AM »
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