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Author Topic: Is this circuit good?  (Read 9197 times)

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Re: Is this circuit good?
« Reply #15 on: August 05, 2008, 01:26:56 PM »
Hi Nerzhdishual that motor looks nice built and compact good good.
About the coil when they say bifilar does this mean that two coils rapped together on same core?
What nationality are you Sandy and Nerzhdishual?
Thanks guys for your help.

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Re: Is this circuit good?
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Re: Is this circuit good?
« Reply #16 on: August 05, 2008, 10:35:12 PM »

@Guruji,

Yes, on the same spool. You take 2 insulated copper wires
(for example 0.4 and 0.5 millimeter/diameter or even 2 * 0.5 millimeter/diam)
and wind them together. No need to be nice you can twist them if you want.
The core itself is made of welding rods.

This SSG (Simplified School Girl) Bedini 'Motor' is very well documented
and you can consult a lot a web sites that describe the building process.

Well, Sandy (Dr Ringwood) is from Great Britain.
I can't afford it, so I'm merely from Brittany (west part of France). ;D


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Re: Is this circuit good?
« Reply #17 on: August 06, 2008, 12:15:52 AM »
you see Andrew, what Monsieur Dishual is trying to avoid saying is that he lives in Bretagne....

and that i live in - Grande Bretagne!  ;)

in which part of the world do you live?

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Re: Is this circuit good?
« Reply #18 on: August 06, 2008, 09:00:05 PM »
Hi Sandy I live in the small island of Malta Europe.
Hope you heard of it :) cause it's very small.
OK then so you're both from UK no?;I was in UK last year went to Scotland too very nice.

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« Reply #19 on: August 07, 2008, 04:37:01 AM »
hi Andrew

yes, i have heard of Malta... i was born there!!  :)

my father was in the British Navy (in the early '50s) on an aircraft carrier stationed in Grand Harbour - my mother went to live in Malta for a year or so while my father was working there and i was born in a military hospital in Mtarfa

unfortunately we returned home to Scotland when i was only a few months old, and i didn't get to see my birthplace until a few years ago - i enjoyed seeing Grand Harbour and visiting the silent city of Mdina (is that spelt correctly?) and the fishing villages in the south near where my parents used to live (Marsascala)

i think i confused you with my mention of Grande Bretagne - NerzhDishual lives in the Bretagne region of France

as i'm sure he will tell you, Grande Bretagne (aka Great Britain) is actually a part of France (historically speaking) - the two are only separated by a rather wide river!  ;)

good luck with your experiments - all the best
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Re: Is this circuit good?
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« Reply #20 on: August 07, 2008, 03:02:26 PM »
That looks like a screenshot from a video on youTube. (search for 'understanding bedini')  I used this schematic to build my first pulse motor about a week ago. I really need better equipment, I'm using toy magnets hot-glued to CD's and rechargable AA batteries as my charge and power sources. :P Only difference in my setup right now is an extra diode on the other side of the charging batteries just to play around, and a set of switches that allows me to quickly switch the power and charging batteries without actually having to physically change them.

I placed a 330v 120uf capacitor from an old camera in place of the charging batteries, but it only wants to hold a charge of around 1.6V. While the motor is spinning, it goes as high as 30V, but as soon as the motor is turned off, the cap drops in voltage back down to the 1.6V. I can discharge it and then charge it back up to 1.6V almost instantly, but it doesn't want to hold a charge any greater than that. What could be causing this effect?

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Re: Is this circuit good?
« Reply #21 on: August 07, 2008, 08:38:41 PM »
Hi Sandy nice to hear that you were in Malta.Yes Mdina is spelled correctly.Did you visit prehistoric temples?
Ok ok about the neon bulbs how can one check if this is good?Are these bulbs 240v?
These days I am experimenting for car too to lower consumption.
Ok maybe one day we meet in Malta Sandy who knows. :)
Bye bye.


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Re: Is this circuit good?
« Reply #22 on: August 07, 2008, 10:40:33 PM »
Hi Arkyan

Welcome to the 'OU' club!

IMHO, you camera's capacitor is dead!
If it does not hold his charge and quickly loose it when disconnected, It
behaves like a short circuited capacitor with a resistor.


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Re: Is this circuit good?
« Reply #23 on: August 08, 2008, 06:48:51 AM »
hmm, I was afraid of that. The poor Olympus camera has long been dead. I know the first time I dismantled it a couple years ago, the cap was alive and well because it gave me quite a shock even after being unused for a couple years even before that. :P I guess time finally wore down on it though. I've broken my magnet wheel....again....but this weekend I'll try to get some pictures up. I guess the pulse motor thread would be a better place for that sort of stuff though?

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Re: Is this circuit good?
« Reply #24 on: August 08, 2008, 08:29:07 AM »
hi Andrew

checking an unknown neon could be a bit difficult without a variable high voltage source - and i'm cautious about advising anyone how to use the mains supply to achieve it

if you have several of the same type of neon you could solder say 4 of them in series & then all in series with say a 470K resistor, carefully insulate all bare connecting leads & then connect the two ends of the whole string to the Live & Neutral terminals of a 230V mains plug (ELCB if you have one, or lowest Amp fuse) - re-assemble the plug with its cover!

230V mains is approx 330V peak, so if the neons glow when the plug is connected to a mains socket then their working voltage is at least 80V approx (for 4 neons)

repeat with additional of the same neons in series & then repeat with fewer

if the string of neons still glow, their working voltage is at least 330/(number neons in series)

if the string of neons no longer glows, their working voltage is greater than 330/(number neons in series)

only try this if you feel completely confident about working with mains voltages and have some previous experience of wiring up mains-powered equipment - you do this at your own risk !

ideally, to give maximum protection to the 2N3055, the neon working voltage should be as close as possible to approx 3x the battery voltage (say 36V?) but i think you'll find that the neons will probably need at least 60V approx - and could just possibly be as much as two or three times that

hope this helps


hi Arkyan

sounds like NerzhDishual is right - for once!  heheh  :P - you might just check that you had the capacitor connected reverse to the supply rail - ie. with the same polarity as if it was the battery to be charged - if it had been the wrong polarity then that could well have fried it

another possibility - if it is indeed dead - is that your battery-switching arrangement could have momentarily applied a reverse voltage or short across the cap - if you tried switching when using the cap   (depends on your actual switch configuration, of course)

it might be worth mentioning that 120uF is not a very high capacity - it wouldn't take much load to discharge it

have you tried charging it thro say a 470R resistor from a 9V battery for & then checking it with a reasonable quality DVM?  for reference, i just checked a 100uF cap and it self-discharged (with just the DVM load) from 9.3V to 8V in around a minute (it would have continued to discharge below that of course if i'd left it connected)

all the best guys
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Re: Is this circuit good?
« Reply #25 on: August 09, 2008, 02:05:49 PM »
Hi Sandy I had done a capacitor but it's taking a bit long to be energized.I think I should do  bigger magnets and increase coil cores around the rotor for better charging.I saw a guy on youtube leaving the motor off and just pushing the rotor;electricity was generated.
He did a sort of generator around the rotor.

Nerzdishual why you said to use welding rods for coil  cores; are these better?and where I can buy those plastic rollers for winding the coil to them?.
Sorry to ask alot of questions but I am very keen to build an OU motor.
Thanks guys.

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« Reply #26 on: August 10, 2008, 05:47:03 AM »
hi Andrew

what value capacitor did you try (in place of the battery to be charged?) ie. what uF and V values?

yes, it would be good to return again to Malta someday - i wasn't able to see the underground or large outdoor temples - just a small outdoor one

if i get an opportunity to return i'll certainly let you know!

all the best
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Re: Is this circuit good?
« Reply #27 on: August 10, 2008, 04:02:21 PM »
HI Sandy the cap was 35v 200uf.I think the transistor is not closing up completely cause when I used to use a reed switch the caps of any size were being filled easily.
Ok thanks Sandy yes you're very welcome to Malta.
Bye bye.

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« Reply #28 on: August 11, 2008, 10:32:17 PM »

@Guruji,

Why welding rods?
Because I was told so and because I'm always very obedient...  ;D

No kidding and more seriously, please consult:
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Bedini_SG
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Bedini_SG:Materials#Magnet_Core_.28Welding_Rod.29

I had removed the 'coat/cover/mantle' of each rod and roughly insulated each rod with glue.
Why had I removed the coat? Because the coat is very fragile/brittle, and I  thought
it was more 'clean' and also because, after all, I'm not so obedient.)  :))
Perhaps I should had not removed anything?. Anyway, you need a core.

I did not purchase any plastic roller. I built them with plywood, 'hole saws' and a
plastic tube of Aspirin or Vitamin C (or any else suitable medication... :)


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