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Author Topic: A "RADIANT ENERGY" DETECTOR  (Read 42021 times)

turbo

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Re: A "RADIANT ENERGY" DETECTOR
« Reply #45 on: October 04, 2008, 02:07:14 PM »
Hey men Spider looking good!!.  ;D

But keep in mind these big caps need much more time to charge up.

Are those Neon sign transformers?

Marco.


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Re: A "RADIANT ENERGY" DETECTOR
« Reply #46 on: October 04, 2008, 02:15:15 PM »
@Marco,

Yup They are, 4000V. Wanna borrow one?  :D Maybe I 'll test one this afternoon.Scare the cat.

1000Volt doides.

I know about those big caps, you can burn a 12 volt ligthbulb of off one for 3 seconds.

Spider.

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Re: A "RADIANT ENERGY" DETECTOR
« Reply #47 on: October 04, 2008, 03:00:23 PM »


                 NOW YOU  ARE READY FOR  TPU <BE CAREFUL  WHIT  THIS  CASCADE > ;)

WAY  YOU MAKE  WHIT MORE  DIODES   YOU DONT NEED  10  OR MORE DIODE  TO GET  HV

  SIMPLE MAKE  PULSE  CIRCUITS  ABOUT  <15Khz   WHIT SOME  DRIVER TO  SOME  SMALL  FERTH  TR.   AND THEN INCREASE  THE  V   TO  LETS SAY   1200V  AND THEN PUT  ORGINALL TV CASCADE OLD   AND THEN YOU HAVE  10000  OR MORE HV  OF THE CASCADE
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                         LIKE  TV  HV TRANSFORMATOR  WHIT CASCADE  THAT CASCADE INSAID  HAVE  5 DIODE  NO MORE

Spider

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Re: A "RADIANT ENERGY" DETECTOR
« Reply #48 on: October 04, 2008, 03:46:12 PM »
@all,

Oke test done, here is the clip :D

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=get147

Not my dog!!

Spider

Maybe I should spray some water on it, for all the HHO fans  :)
« Last Edit: October 04, 2008, 04:43:24 PM by Spider »

Vortex1

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Re: A "RADIANT ENERGY" DETECTOR
« Reply #49 on: October 04, 2008, 04:58:23 PM »
Marco

Nice post on the Quad ESL's. I was given a pair to repair back in the early 70's. Brings back memories.
For those interested in rolling your own ESL's try "Electrostatic Loudspeaker Design and Construction by Ronald Wagner. It gets into the delay line theory etc. much of which is also in the Walker patents.

The "Audio Amateur" did a nice construction article on a set of ESL's with direct drive from push pull high voltage transmitting tubes, triodes if I remember correctly.

Gentlemen be careful discharging large capacitor banks without ear protection. The exceedingly steep audio wavefronts can cause permanent ear damage. These discharges are used to shape metal when a transmitting medium for the wavefront such as water is used. I have permanent damage to one ear from experiments back in the 60's with discharge from capacitor banks.

Additionally the sound is extremely painful to cats, dogs and other animals and may cause trauma. Beware.

Grumpy

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Re: A "RADIANT ENERGY" DETECTOR
« Reply #50 on: October 06, 2008, 03:30:24 PM »
@Marco

I see you like Keb' Mo'  ;)

thx1138

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The original "RADIANT ENERGY" detector
« Reply #51 on: January 04, 2015, 01:39:08 PM »
One must realize that back in the 1870s no one new what light was. Today we call it electromagnetic (EM) radiation. This was also before the discovery of the X-rays. Today we know that there is a much broader EM spectrum but all of that was discovered by the pioneers in electricity and physics of the 1800s and expanded in the 1900s as better tools became available.

Here is the original radiant energy detector.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crookes_radiometer

And some other info.
http://www.magnet.fsu.edu/education/tutorials/pioneers/crookes.html

Sir William Crookes was a mentor of Tesla's. So it isn't "Tesla's radiant energy" at all. Crookes used the term first. It is a generic term. Anything that radiates energy is a radiant energy source.

 “Tesla’s latest Roentgen Ray Investigations”, Electrical Review, New York 28 No.17, April 22. 1896)
“…streams resembling the cathodic must be emitted by the sun and probably also by other sources of radiant energy, such as an arc light or Bunsen burner.”

Regarding the "stinging ray experiments" consider what happened to the atoms and particles of the conductor that was vaporized. They went somewhere and they weren't converted to pure energy because that would have been a nuclear explosion. But they definitely radiated and they carried a charge as witnessed by their charging of objects in the lab, i.e. radiation.

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Re: A "RADIANT ENERGY" DETECTOR
« Reply #52 on: January 05, 2015, 04:11:56 AM »
@Marco,

Yup They are, 4000V. Wanna borrow one?  :D Maybe I 'll test one this afternoon.Scare the cat.

1000Volt doides.

I know about those big caps, you can burn a 12 volt ligthbulb of off one for 3 seconds.

Spider.

For big caps, why not try some super caps, or boost caps?  Like 3,000 Farad.  They charge up really fast and will hold more juice than all of those caps in your photo put together.

NSTs are fun.  i bought a new one off of ebay.  It is 10,000 volts and I am going to (one day) build a Jacobs ladder with it.

High voltage is great if you are careful...I am still leary of it as I still get zapped by my modified flash camera circuit Joule Thiefs at 400 volts and it still hurts.

Bill

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Re: The original "RADIANT ENERGY" detector
« Reply #53 on: January 05, 2015, 11:03:47 PM »
One must realize that back in the 1870s no one new what light was. Today we call it electromagnetic (EM) radiation. This was also before the discovery of the X-rays. Today we know that there is a much broader EM spectrum but all of that was discovered by the pioneers in electricity and physics of the 1800s and expanded in the 1900s as better tools became available.

Here is the original radiant energy detector.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crookes_radiometer

And some other info.
http://www.magnet.fsu.edu/education/tutorials/pioneers/crookes.html

Sir William Crookes was a mentor of Tesla's. So it isn't "Tesla's radiant energy" at all. Crookes used the term first. It is a generic term. Anything that radiates energy is a radiant energy source.

 “Tesla’s latest Roentgen Ray Investigations”, Electrical Review, New York 28 No.17, April 22. 1896)
“…streams resembling the cathodic must be emitted by the sun and probably also by other sources of radiant energy, such as an arc light or Bunsen burner.”

Regarding the "stinging ray experiments" consider what happened to the atoms and particles of the conductor that was vaporized. They went somewhere and they weren't converted to pure energy because that would have been a nuclear explosion. But they definitely radiated and they carried a charge as witnessed by their charging of objects in the lab, i.e. radiation.


I always looked on it as an electromagnetic pulse radiation.   The copper vaporized into a plasma causing a dead short and a huge current flow for a brief interval until the generator and distribution system capacity went to it's knees.  The near field magnetic wave quite intense.

thx1138

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Re: The original "RADIANT ENERGY" detector
« Reply #54 on: February 10, 2015, 03:22:48 PM »

I always looked on it as an electromagnetic pulse radiation.   The copper vaporized into a plasma causing a dead short and a huge current flow for a brief interval until the generator and distribution system capacity went to it's knees.  The near field magnetic wave quite intense.
My perspective was that the copper caused the dead short and the plasma is a result of that short but you might be right because we get that same short with an arc light instead of a copper rod when the insulating properties of the gas between the electrodes breaks down.

On the other hand, Tesla noted the Bunsen burner produces radiant energy and in that case we have no electrical short but flame is considered to be a plasma.

So why don't we get the stinging sensation with a Bunsen burner? Because we don't have the electromagnetic pulse propelling the vaporized copper ions. The electromagnetic pulse in the exploding wire propels ions as well as projecting the electromagnetic fields, i.e. ionizing radiation which causes the stinging sensation and which can be felt through glass and copper barriers.