Author Topic: A "RADIANT ENERGY" DETECTOR (Read 42003 times)

Rosphere · « **Reply #30 on:** October 03, 2008, 03:15:53 AM »

Spider,

Sounds interesting and easy. I would like to try it. I just have a few questions:

Quote from: Spider on September 27, 2008, 06:36:57 PM

RE Detection:

Charge a 100V cap to 50V.

Cut two separate pieces of wire around 8 feet long that has good insulation!

Connect one wire to one terminal and the other wire to the other terminal - no circuit!

Curl the wires up into two rough cylinders, diameter unimportant!

Air coils?

Stranded wire ok?

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Place near the coil,

Place the cap near the coil(s)?

Does the relative orientation of the coils make a difference; inline, side-by-side, other?

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now pulse the coil

As in touch the unconnected ends of the coils together momentarily by hand?

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whilst measuring the voltage on the cap and scoping the cap!

On the scope it looks like a very short burst of sustained oscillation!

Voltage on cap will steadyly rise! Cut wire down to get best pulse definition!

Spider

A photo of your set-up would be appreciated.

Thanks man.

Spider · « **Reply #31 on:** October 04, 2008, 10:29:08 AM »

@Ro,

The cap and the 2 wires is just a measuring device. Its not generating RE.
You have to place it near your TPU, tetra or kickcoil build.
Like Spherics said, sticking 2 copper bars in the field already give a considerable voltage reading.

Even with what Marco posted you could measure RE near a device.

btw its not my idea, I got it from Spherics.

Spider.

turbo · « **Reply #32 on:** October 04, 2008, 01:24:12 PM »

Yes that is correct.

It is the copper supercharging effect.
These high voltage pulses eject the RE particles perpendicular out of the copper thet is being pulsed and this in turn charges up copper nearby.

In a vacuum tube the electrons are boiled off the heater in an exact similar way as water molecules escape from boiling water.

RE seems to brute force particles out of the metal that is pulsed.

However i would like to say that the voltages Spider mentioned are way too low to generate the effect.
In any case the pulses have to be higher then the ambient potential, the voltage all things on the surface are charged to.

As a guideline you can look at the QUAD ESL electrostatic loudspeaker.
It has build in two step up transformers and voltage multipliers , step up the low voltage to voltages well above 5000 Volts and higher.

Combine that with a delay line and you have found youreself a kicking setup.

In the ESL63 the standard delay is 24microseconds which responds to an runtime diffrence in air of about 8mm.
Steven was wrapping his own iron "bailing wire" delay coils so in essence he used diffrent timings.

Marco.

(http://www.mykindofmusic.com/photogal/esl63.jpg)

turbo · « **Reply #33 on:** October 04, 2008, 01:24:59 PM »

You can look up the patent

turbo · « **Reply #34 on:** October 04, 2008, 01:25:33 PM »

Delay lines

turbo · « **Reply #35 on:** October 04, 2008, 01:25:53 PM »

Delay line

turbo · « **Reply #36 on:** October 04, 2008, 01:26:34 PM »

Inside esl63

turbo · « **Reply #37 on:** October 04, 2008, 01:27:24 PM »

Service data sheet

turbo · « **Reply #38 on:** October 04, 2008, 01:31:30 PM »

3,5Kv voltage multiplier.

turbo · « **Reply #39 on:** October 04, 2008, 01:35:02 PM »

3,5Kv Print

turbo · « **Reply #40 on:** October 04, 2008, 01:37:58 PM »

7500 Volt Print

turbo · « **Reply #41 on:** October 04, 2008, 01:38:48 PM »

10-20 Kv

Spider · « **Reply #42 on:** October 04, 2008, 01:48:30 PM »

@Marco,

Nice post!!
handy to have those hv circuits.

Are those your speakers?

Mooi tapijtje

Spider

turbo · « **Reply #43 on:** October 04, 2008, 01:55:13 PM »

No thats a picture i found on Google.
The people who have these ESL63's always seem to have mooie tapijtjes

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I think it has got something to do with damping the sound.

Anyway these circuits will give you the desired high voltage you can use to generate the kick.
These are all Cockcroft-Walton based.

Marco.

Spider · « **Reply #44 on:** October 04, 2008, 02:00:18 PM »

@Marco,

I hope Rosphere is happy now.

I pulled some stuff together and am ready to build some sparkers. LOL

Spider.

Mooie tapijtjes, you can't have enough of them.

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