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Author Topic: A "RADIANT ENERGY" DETECTOR  (Read 41878 times)

poynt99

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Re: A "RADIANT ENERGY" DETECTOR
« Reply #15 on: August 09, 2008, 05:11:20 PM »
you guys sure know how to fuck up a thread, nice going.

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Re: A "RADIANT ENERGY" DETECTOR
« Reply #16 on: August 09, 2008, 05:33:46 PM »
Here is a quote from Steven compared to the words of Tesla  :)
These things you can find when you start to dig into the past.

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Re: A "RADIANT ENERGY" DETECTOR
« Reply #17 on: September 24, 2008, 06:06:28 PM »
Here is a quote from Steven compared to the words of Tesla  :)
These things you can find when you start to dig into the past.

M.

I just realized that waht Tesla detected was the Earth-equivalent of the Roentgen Current.  In Roentgen's experiment he moved a dielectric between two charged plates.  With Tesla's storm and magnetomoeters, the plates are the earth and ionosphere.  The "dielectric" between the plates creates a current when it is displaced.   Thunderstorms would cause the aether field of the earth to expand and contract, this difference in density could propagate as well.

Usable power all around.  The trick is harnessing it.

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EDIT:

Here is my RE detector - which connects to a VTVM for measurement.


« Last Edit: September 24, 2008, 06:40:51 PM by Grumpy »

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Re: A "RADIANT ENERGY" DETECTOR
« Reply #18 on: September 24, 2008, 11:46:39 PM »
     I was wondering if an re detector could  be put together using a rectifier vacuum tube operated under a high potential reverse voltage.  Any re energy would then result in a current pulse as it hits the rarified field between the electrodes.  I suppose we could use a diode with the same reverse voltage on it.  Tubes are bigger though.

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Re: A "RADIANT ENERGY" DETECTOR
« Reply #19 on: September 26, 2008, 03:44:03 AM »
May I offer something that works for me?

Here is a circuit so close it doesn't matter much... http://www.ece.rochester.edu/~jones/demos/ahern.html

Please pay special attention to the construction details about material of the housing, shielding, grounding and the 'no insulation' on the antenna part. Don't bother with any antenna suggestions he has.

My antenna is more like Vortex1 describes. Instead of a BNC connector in the back I have a hole just big enough for the resistor. The 'antenna side' of the resistor is soldered to a thin copper disc inside the tube.

I suggest you don't cheat on the caps, either.

The straight piece of stiff coax works almost as well when feeding a scope.

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Re: A "RADIANT ENERGY" DETECTOR
« Reply #20 on: September 26, 2008, 12:52:02 PM »
I forgot to mention......

If you become good at moving charges have spare ICs on-hand. High intensity or speed will blow the chips.

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Re: A "RADIANT ENERGY" DETECTOR
« Reply #21 on: September 26, 2008, 03:59:15 PM »
Sparks...interesting idea with the HV vacuum rectifier tube, but you might need a gas in the tube to ionize, that is, if RE can even ionize a gas. If it can, a NE2 neon bulb might work.

Could RE increase the conduction of the rectifier tube without ionizing gas?

If RE is an ionizing radiation that can penetrate a thin glass wall, a Geiger counter would also work.

Besides my homemade detector I also use this hand held ES meter, but it has a slow reaction time.

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Re: A "RADIANT ENERGY" DETECTOR
« Reply #22 on: September 26, 2008, 05:30:48 PM »
     Electrons in a tube are free of the atomic mass of the metal.  The energy of their  angular momentum is now evident on the aether as well as their mass velocity.  We got ourselves a spinning fast ball.  I believe the xray em wave from this current is due to the energy of the angular momentum of the electron field being radiated or given up to the field in conjunction with the magnetic displacement of the aether due to the particles velocity.  This Roentgen current is very energetic and I can see it popping alot of electronics.  In a lightning plasma again we see particle acceleration or  charge carriers experiencing inertial gain.  Particle accelerators are topping out with emwave acceleration and are experimenting with plazma excitation resulting in waves the particles surf transversely.    Tabletop particle acceleration is the goal.  And the lowly alternator is moving charge carriers but  very slowly and at great input expense.
     Modify:  @vortex  The rectifier tube uses an ionized gas.  One of the original rectifiers used mercury vapor.  This was a step up from vibrating contact current actuated relays. 

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Re: A "RADIANT ENERGY" DETECTOR
« Reply #23 on: September 26, 2008, 10:28:10 PM »
Hello peepz  :)

Here is a picture of a radiant energy detector.


(http://www.klipsch.com/images/472/400x400.aspx)

It cannot get much easier...

Did i mention it is the transmitter that is more important?
I think i did somwhere.

Marco.

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Re: A "RADIANT ENERGY" DETECTOR
« Reply #24 on: September 26, 2008, 11:40:09 PM »
Quote
Modify:  @vortex  The rectifier tube uses an ionized gas.  One of the original rectifiers used mercury vapor.  This was a step up from vibrating contact current actuated relays.

Sparks

Some rectifier tubes use an ionized gas e.g. mercury vapor such as type 0Z4, 3B28,816, 866A.

Most common rectifier tubes operate at high vacuum without a gas such as mercury. Typical of these are 1B3,  1AX2 etc for high voltage rectifiers (kV) and 5U4, 5Y3,5V4, 5AR4 etc for low voltage (sub kV).

The advantage of the gas rectifiers is lower internal impedance hence lower voltage drop, however they produce a lot of hash noise which must be adequately filtered with chokes and capacitors off the plates Additionally, they require the filaments to be switched on 60 seconds or so before plate voltage is applied to fully vaporize the mercury..

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Re: A "RADIANT ENERGY" DETECTOR
« Reply #25 on: September 27, 2008, 12:37:29 AM »
I'm going to assume by radiant energy that you mean atmospheric energy. with that said, it all depends on the atmosphere. if you want to test your location for energy ( which depends on weather) , strap some pvc/ribbon/cat hair insulated from the vehicle ( this would be +) on ur car with a multi meter and ground it to a bucket of dirt sitting in the car. if you wanna have fun , build a static motor and hook it up. I did research this 10 years ago with best readings of 50 watts @ 50 mph. then i posted it on halfbaked.com, and got hanged in country square for it. Go figure.

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Re: A "RADIANT ENERGY" DETECTOR
« Reply #26 on: September 27, 2008, 03:58:05 AM »
@Vortex

      Lil ambiguity on my part.  I meant that the hypothetical tube I would use would utilize an ionized gas exposed to a constant dc voltage.  Would be interesting to see what shows up on a scope as it is exposed to various emscources.

@Xooo13

       I define radiant energy as electomagnetic wave energy produced by mass as a consequence of it's energy density.  Blackbody radiation.  Of course the magnetic part doesn't get too far which leaves us with a pretty much electrostatic radiation.

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Re: A "RADIANT ENERGY" DETECTOR
« Reply #27 on: September 27, 2008, 05:01:27 PM »
     Just another thought.  In a bulb or ss device that is under reversed voltage below the breakdown voltage we have ourselves a plazma of sorts.  The +ions over here and the electrons over there.  Between these two fields we have a pinch zone.  Now if we relax the voltage and the pinch zone gets smaller I am wondering if electromagnetic waves traveling transverse to the tube would experience an increase in amplitude and frequency as they pass through this weird dielectric field?

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Re: A "RADIANT ENERGY" DETECTOR
« Reply #28 on: September 27, 2008, 06:36:57 PM »
RE Detection:

Charge a 100V cap to 50V.

Cut two separate pieces of wire around 8 feet long that has good insulation!

Connect one wire to one terminal and the other wire to the other terminal - no circuit!

Curl the wires up into two rough cylinders, diameter unimportant!

Place near the coil, now pulse the coil whilst measuring the voltage on the cap and scoping the cap!

On the scope it looks like a very short burst of sustained oscillation!

Voltage on cap will steadyly rise! Cut wire down to get best pulse definition!

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Re: A "RADIANT ENERGY" DETECTOR
« Reply #29 on: September 28, 2008, 12:39:56 AM »
@marco 

   good  wire i need that for  make  the   tpu  ;)