Ya, rotating magnetic fields should produce gravitation anomalies. (No that's not proven yet).

You can always use gears to step up the rpm, no need of high rpm motors. Say, use a 100:1 gear with a 1k rpm motor to get 100k rpm. (Or a series of gears of lower ratios)

Place a weight on different positions around it and measure weight changes.
Now how to detect weight changes ? You'd need a very very sensitive balance and the whole thing should be in a vacuum chamber, else air will interfere and can produce lift.

Difficult, but possible to experiment.

I tried to understand why we need counter-rotating wheel to control gravity.

I think I have a part of the answer, When you want control the gravity you need a way to go in both direction UP or DOWN.

If you want to go UP, on one of the 2 rotors go slower and the other stay in his maximum speed, if you want to go DOWN the opposite append, one wheel go slower then the other.

So if you want to go LEFT or RIGHT, you can use the same principle. Basically a saucer should have 4 anti-gravity engine one for each axis X, Y, Z and maybe one to move at angle W.

The X, Z and W need a smaller engine since they only need to move the main floating object, the Y is the main and bigger one to move the entire saucer against planet gravity.

I think that when they travel in space the main anti-gravity (Y) face the direction where they want to go. The X and Z axis and W motor are just used for orientating the saucer in the direction they want to move using the Y engine.

Why i think , magnets can lead to AG ? because of gravitomagnetism (see wikipedia)
Similarities are cool.

But static magnetic fields dont produce any effect, else everyone would have discovered them by now.
Electromagnets and antennas can produce varying magnetic fields, (EMFs), but they r too weak to produce anything interesting and may be they are not suitable (configs and all)

So rotating the magnets mechanically should show something. Like a superconductor, may be.
And AG is a road to FE, for sure.

Howdy Y'all,

Sorry I have been gone a while.  I gotta go to work and take care of the house every once in a while...

I was reading back through this thread and I noticed (don't know why i didn't notice before) that Pasi1's diagram in the first post has the same configuration as my Infinity Transformer with a little different explanation.  My Infinity Transformer is based on the Hubbard Coil which Alfred M. Hubbard built in the first quarter of the 20th Century.  In the Hubbard Coil thread I had postulated that his design may have been from extraterrestrial beings, a scale model of their electrogravity engine.

So I am going to interject the idea that a electrogravity ship is going to have more than one system to make it do the fantastic things that it does.  The large counter rotating masses are gyroscopic in nature giving the ship dimensional stability.  This is different than anti-gravity.  An antigrav would repulse against another gravity field.  This would require the ship to stay in close proximity to a planet or another gravity field in order to operate.  If the ship were to develop its own gravity field then it could operate in free space. However I do not think that the counter rotating masses can do this own their own.  There needs to be an electrostatic component to the complete the effect.  This is where the Electromagnetic coils come into the picture.  This electrogravity ship needs high voltage to drive and bias the counter rotating wheels.  Whether it is two motors driving two wheels or one motor driving a transmission gear system and driving the two wheels there needs to electromotive force to drive the wheels.  There needs to be plentiful electric power to maintain the momentum in the counter rotating wheels and charge the wheels with a high voltage.  This amplifies the effect by electrostatic attraction of ethers and perhaps gravitons.  The field that the ship generates is responsible for generating the gravity and not the individual components which generate the field.  The electrostatic force attracts, from the environment surrounding the ship, what it needs to generate the gravity field.  The spinning masses by themselves generate a gyroscopic  forces which stabilize the ship.  The electrostatic forces generate a flow of particles across the surfaces of the spinning masses.  The synergistic effect draws the energies from the environment around the ship creating an artificial gravity field around the ship.

I have read that gravity is not a continuous force.  It is oscillatory in nature.  It seems constant because we do not notice the nutation.  The theory is that the sun emits a highly penetrating radiation that is transmitted to objects which have considerable mass, ie planets, moons, asteroids.  This highly penetrating radiation is in the area of a Terahertz.  The combination of the Terahertz radiation and the mass generate gravity.  I know this is "out there".  We have been forced to accept Newtonian Physics for our entire lives.  The electrogravity machine does not fit into Newtonian Physics.  We have to look deeper into the workings of nature to understand the electrogravity machine.  We need to look at Cosmic Physics.  We need to look at the highest science.  We need to understand the true workings of the universe on a quantum level, and not the theories that are taught in man's schools.  Who do we ask for such information?  Believe it or not this information does exist on our little backwater planet.  It is in ancient records.  It is in the Akashic Record.  It has been channeled from extraterrestrials.  It is even written in our sacred texts which are lying about everywhere.  Who would think to read the Bible with a physics context?  In the book of Ezekiel there is a Cosmic Chariot described in great detail. If we would get the physicists to read religious texts, that would be a miracle.

OK, Back to the ship.  So the electrogravity engine uses the spinning masses, and I do mean masses not CDs or disk platters, to create a gyroscopic stabilizing effect.  Then the electrostatic force on the spinning masses attracts energy and particles from the surrounding environment to develop an electrogravity field spinning about the exterior of the ship.  This field utilizes radiation, originally from the sun, to produce a gravity field, and the primary particles in this field of energy are ethers and gravitons.

Here is a picture of what was supposed to be a Searle Disk.  Turns out that it did do have the balance or sophistication to be a Searle Disk so I turned it into a alternator.  I'm working on a new design for the electrogravity engine incorporating all the new material I have found.  It could take a while to do this, but slow progress is better then none at all...

Blessed Be Brothers and Sisters...

Howdy Y'all,

Here is my preliminary plan.

So, at the moment, I am working out the power source first, the Infinity Transformer.  A vehicle needs an independent power source and a free energy generator is the obvious choice.  This is something that I have been developing specifically for this purpose.  Then I want to make a magnetic bearing system to support the rotating masses.  I envision a conical shape with integrated neodymium magnets to be the "axle" and a inverse conical shape with integrated neodymium magnets to be the "hub".  There would be two sets of magnetic bearings which hold each  wheel independently.  There would be a large screw which holds all the bearings in place vertically, but the rotating masses would not touch the screw or magnetic bearings.  Then we squeeze the bearings together to pinch the magnetic fields firmly.  This will tighten the rotating masses into their domain so they don't pitch about when we apply electromagnetic forces to spin the masses.  The rotating masses will be built with neodymium magnets in their periphery with alternating poles pointed outward.  We can then use solenoids and Hall Effect sensors to generate a motor action which will cause the mass to spin.  This will require using a microcontroller to make a multiphase motor driver for each rotating mass. The solenoid coils would need to be mounted around the periphery of the rotating masses to effect the neodymium magnets around the rotating masses.  This is a similar but more advanced version of what is pictured above.

I would like to draw this, but don't have the time right away.  Any one need a project?  All of the ideas above are preliminary.  Right now we are in the research phase of the so everything is fluid, changeable.  But once we start fabricating parts it will be more difficult to change our minds.

Blessed Be

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Wouldn't it be a moot point if the "driving" system is lossy, given that the input is free power?  While it would be perfect to ascertain the absolute in perfection throughout, this could still be a success if even only the powering side is over unity.  Kind of like Hubbard ran into c.a. 1920 when he had to power  his boat on his coil alone.  I'm not trying to be a nay-sayer, but seems to me like the final proof is related to the ongoing electrical input.  Myself, I'm having lots of fun with batteries, hss hdd motors, and spool systems, but that can only entertain my young children just so long.  Hahaha,  Still seeing interesting and non-documented results along the way.

Peace all!

Howdy V71,

Welcome to the Weird Science Club...

squeege69, yeah, the system will be "lossy" but we can look at that as work done.  In fact it is going to take a lot of energy to fly.  This is why were starting with a free energy generator, maybe we can make it economical to fly.  Even a scale model with two iron flywheels it will still take a considerable amount of energy to spin the wheels up to lift velocity and maintain that velocity and have reserve energy to maneuver.  A small note here, I have been reviewing the Vril notes and the upper flywheel is smaller in diameter than the lower flywheel.  On the advanced Vril ship there are 3 gyros mounted on the lower flywheel for stabilization.  Apparently the two flywheels alone are wobbly, hard to control.  A story about the original test flight stated that the pilot (an experienced Luftwaffe combat pilot) barely escaped with his life because the Vril ship was so hard to control.  So I guess that we are already modifying the original plans...

Blessed Be...

Howdy V71,

You are the only person that I have seen use the word graviton on this website the entire time I have been a member.  I haven't read all the threads, but I have read a lot.  I do believe that faster than light travel is possible, but it is going to take more than the Vril technology to do that.  Also the information I have about Vril technology leaves a lot of questions.  I have a lot of information available to me, but it is all superficial.  There are not many critical technical details.  There are people out there in the world that understand this technology completely, and may even have functioning levitators, but they cannot share any information because they are part of some secret group.  That is all right, because I am going to learn a lot more about this technology by starting from scratch, rather than if I was to make a copy of someones design.  One thing is for sure, this is going to be a lot of machine work, my favorite...

Blessed Be...