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iacob alex

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Inertial discontinuity...
« on: August 03, 2008, 06:55:15 PM »

  ....it's a specific feature of this space,we are  living in:the gravitational field.

    In inertia,as a primary rule,more massive bodies require more work to move or accelerate,than less massive ones.

    The gravity accelerates masses of all size with equal ease: all bodies,big and small,fall with equal rates in any given gravitational field.

     So,in a gravity fall,as a "curved space-time geometry",the bodies have not inertia in proportion to their own masses.

     Gravity has no inertia,operates without inertia,so as an inertial discontinuity.

     If we have a faster fall,we must add energy to a free falling mass.

     If we have a slower fall,we can extract energy,in some way,from the same motion.


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Re: Inertial discontinuity...
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2009, 09:12:55 PM »

     ...for a free falling mass ,in a gravitational field ,has an oddity,a specific feature: it is manifest on the vertical line,only

       As we know from ballistics,any other trajectory shape is affected by inertia.

       A mass on a roof can be stable,not moving...but on the edge of it,on eaves,it  can drop so easily...it has no inertia.,

       This is a wonder that happens on the vertical line: we can move so effortlessly,comparing. with any other path that ask to interplay with this unseen push or pull influence.

       This free fall seems to be a natural   action without   an apparent ( also natural) reaction,for the moment.

        Yes,for a limited time:when the free fall is stopped,the inertia enters on the scenery as a master of equilibrium,in a shortest  time.

       The question is if we can make a "deal" with inertia,so to interact with it,not at the end of the free fall,but on all descending time,in such a manner to be useful for our topic.

       We have a "free action"( in a free gravity fall),with no reaction.

        A reaction can be a certain manner  to imagine,organize a slow down  of the free fall, as an energy  storing system and the most important,to feedback the loop.

        It's possibly? Who knows?In the running...maybe yes,maybe not.

                                                                   All the Bests!  /  Alex 

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Re: Inertial discontinuity...
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2009, 10:49:22 PM »
"We have a "free action"( in a free gravity fall),with no reaction."

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Hmmm...I think the object being accelerated to the earth also pulls on the earth, small force but still a reaction

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Re: Inertial discontinuity...
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2009, 10:51:51 PM »
Alex,
Think of a donut shaped tank with wings, the donut shaped tank needs to weight a little more than the liquid it displaces.
Next let the donut shaped tank with wings fall thru a liquid.
As the donut shaped tank with wings falls thru the liquid it will begin to spin and build angular  momentum, it will also build liner momentum in the down direction.
After the tank builds momentum abruptly stop it from spinning and falling, use the momentum of the tank to increase the tanks displacement.
The tank is now lighter than the liquid it displaces and will float up doing work.
At the top send the tank over a wheel so the internal heavy metal weight is back on top.
Repeat the process.
This machine is patent pending.
This machine is not posted at my website, however there are four designs posted there. http://bsandler.com

sm0ky2

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Re: Inertial discontinuity...
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2009, 11:11:47 PM »
isn't this EXACTLY what we do with. say... Hydroelectric Dams?

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Re: Inertial discontinuity...
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2009, 08:05:29 AM »

     Hi Pyrodin!

You are right,when you say that "the object being accelerated to the earth also pulls on the earth".

 About this case,the science delivers this full explanation:..."according to Newton's 3rd Law,the Earth itself experiences an equal and opposite force to that acting on the falling object,meaning that the Earth also accelerates towards the object(until the object hits the earth,then the Law of Conservation of Energy states that it will move back with the same acceleration with which it initially moved forward,canceling out  the two forces of gravity).However,because of the mass of the Earth is huge,the acceleration of the Earth by the same force is negligible,when measured relative to the system's center of mass".'

In my opinion,for a full up-down  pendulum  fall in gravity,we have a different situation: the trajectory is a half circle and we have,if we follow the same line of explanation (see up), an interactive play between three masses: bob "m",Earth  and Inertia(Mach's Principle).

Because the trajectory of the falling bob is not linear/vertical,this one is in a permanent contact with inertia:the fulcrum/pivot  "feels" as an outside pull action,due to inertia.We can use only the torque to store some energy...if not,we are swinging,at most.

To "roam" in speculative theory,can be attractive,but the shortest way in life ,you know,is the test face to reality.

Pendulum,as mathematics is confessing,needs  a nonlinear setup for a full report...but ,this is missing,bad news.

We have some good news,also:  thus we can make a lot of practical experiments ,about nonlinear behavior of a pendulum .

The hope is to find that key for output>input.

     All the Bests!  /  Alex

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Re: Inertial discontinuity...
« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2009, 07:12:34 AM »

   ....or the breaking,rupture of the absolutely property of inertia ( v=const.) ,around massive celestial bodies (gravity),into a nonlinear increasing velocity,can be seen as an other "face" of the same phenomenon : "compressed" inertia?!

       So,the gravity is simply,a different appearance,shape of inertia?!

       Inertia is a hidden,but springy,elastic,reactive "phantom king" property of space.

       Gravity is an unseen spring,an active flowing mechanical power.

                     All the Bests! / Alex

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Re: Inertial discontinuity...
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2010, 06:44:31 PM »

  .....can be considered a favorable condition,to get free of inertia (no power to act or resist) ,of passivity.

       All that we need is power,ability to do or act work,with the help of fresh natural energy.

       Can be gravity an open gate to free energy,as a "dormant' (sleeping ,in state of suspension) river,flux of energy ?

       To arouse,awake,start "the wheels turning" ,in this unseeable scene,maybe,we need a feedback system type...a loop that couples the basic inertial frame (v=constant) with gravity (v=variable).

       If we determine a slower fall in gravity (inertial "resistence"),we have a power "storage",and we can try to extract energy,in some manner...

            All the best! / Alex

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Re: Inertial discontinuity...
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2010, 08:08:52 PM »
How does this thread & all of its PLATITUDES & THEORIES help us to make an overunity device?


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Re: Inertial discontinuity...
« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2010, 02:10:35 AM »
   Hi!

The theory,simply,is a set or working rules,you need before to enter,to get in touch  with reality.

A platitude can be a cliche (a photo as your dam ),a commonplace maybe,but you can learn so much,if the good intention prevails...see "Dam power..." topic.

   All the best! / Alex