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HEYDUDE

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Re: SM expose'
« Reply #90 on: August 21, 2008, 03:14:52 AM »
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Have you seen the green plazma light that Grumpy and Gutoluc[in another thread] have spoke of?

I will go back and take another look at those effects. I believe this effect occurs when the bulbs are subject to overcurrent such that filament metals and support structures which were never intended to get that hot begin to vaporize, and their metallic vapors become ionized, each metal vapor type emitting a different color.

Ultraviolet is usually mercury vapor, common to fluorescents, copper would be light green.

I could be wrong about that, but I have seen something very similar before. I'll look into it.

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« Reply #91 on: August 21, 2008, 03:31:02 AM »
My coils could not withstand the forces - they last a few minutes.  One very currious thing is that when the left coil arced between the windings it was a green arc - just like in the picture - and the arc was very localized.  The right coil arced across (when ran by itself) about two inches of windings in two places and the arcs were white/violet - just like the other arc in the pictures.

Everyone says that the RE arc is "green" - so until proven otherwise - RE it is.

Wire is 28 awg with HT insulation - it was a little dinged - removed from top of a large spool - I was surprised it worked at all.  Length was about 250 feet for each - wound on Folgers' plastic coffee cans - yes I made a jig to wind them with.

Will re-wind the coils.

Arc in pictures are all between aluminum plates - I seriously doubt it is from any trace Cu in the metal or that coper is in the circuit.

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« Reply #92 on: August 21, 2008, 03:55:03 AM »

He only mentioned two transformers slightly out of phase.
You show four in your pictures.


The reason i used 4 is quite simple.
At that time i did not have a mains to power the experiment and that is why i used two step up transformers to get to higher voltage levels which are needed.
Offcource this has more advantages because the DC feed from the battery's is ultra clean, this would elliminate the chance of noise from the mains getting into the output signal.
Therefore i can say the output was generated by the setup and cannot come from motors or fluorecent lights etc.. that were on the line cause it was battery powerd.


Also he said there was hash and all kind of frequencies produced.


True and i have also seen this hash it just depends on the out of phase level.
You can get hash or nice kicks it all depends on the signals.
He said you can generate all kinds of signals and that is correct.


Your scope shot shows a very periodic pulse type waveform typical of transformer saturation effect
and no hash. That screen should be nearly filled with all kinds of noise floating by.


I will attach some more scope shots for you to see what else i saw using other settings.
The transformers were driven at their normal voltage ratings, i had especially bought them for this experiment.
If they were going into saturation, it was a result of this signal mixing and maybe even a result of this kick.
These kicks were app+/- 2500 Volt while i was only putting in 500V.


Can you explain or present your work in an appropriately detailed technical document?


I do not have much time at this moment and,
It is just like the man said and he has written it for us.
I am not going to repeat his words over and over again.
However i might want to point out to the fact that the 500VDC has to be floating on top of the 5VAC from the HTR.
In other words there are seperated grounds.
This is important because if it is entirely grounded the effect won't show up and pherhaps this is the mistake many people are making or they are just not realizing what Steven was doing.
Mannix has sent a scope shot to Steven and he confirmed these spikes were the ones you should see comming from a working TPU.

I do not know what is the reason that you did not get the results you wanted.
In power generators we usually find a static field be it the result of permanent magnets or electromagnets, and we also find a rotating element or elements.
Needles to say if we take out the magnets or the electromagnets the generator will not produce any power.
The same happens when we leave out the rotating element(s).

You can see in this example we need the both of them to work, if we leave out one out of two the thing just won't work.
We can create a high speed rotating field but without the (electro) magnets it will not put out any power.
We can also create a strong field but without the rotating field in it's presence it will again not put out power.

This is why it is important to make sure you got all the ingredients up and running to make it happen.
The field around a magnet is not directly coupled to the magnet.
You can see this when you rotate a magnet on it's own axis.
The field is stationary in space.
By moving the magnet we move the field and doing so we can induce currents in wire.
However since the field is stationary we can also create the apperance of a rotating field by pulsing coils.
Here it gets intresting because we can pulse coils so that they create a magnetic field, but we can also pusle coils with pure high voltage potential...
In the one example we end up with a spinning magnetic field and the other a spinning high voltage field...
You can imagine what a generator without frictional losses will do when it is driven up to incredible speeds.
And especially when we pulse them so fast and high, that they start to spread Radiant Energy all over the place..

Now i am wondering if this post is again starting to look like one of Stevens, the one where he talks about moving the magnet over 1000 pcs of short wire.

So i do not know who you are but all i can say is that you need to combine the elements and not to focus on one specific element.
I remember i was also fixated on the high speed rotating field and this was the only thing i was trying to create.
Offcource this never worked.
Then i started to see the importance of the other elements and how they all work togheter to create what Steven calls "The phenomena of magnetic collection"

Exuse me for the long post but the words kept comming.

Marco.




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« Reply #93 on: August 21, 2008, 04:22:43 AM »
HD   WOW!!   I think you will get your wish {to see it before you leave this world] And BTW amazing builds   Chet
« Last Edit: August 21, 2008, 04:49:28 AM by ramset »

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Re: SM expose'
« Reply #94 on: August 21, 2008, 04:55:09 AM »

@ -[marco]-

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However since the field is stationary

However since the field appears stationary (frozen in time).

If you introduce the Delta T factor (here rotation), your field is not stationary, but very active.

Take care,

Michel

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« Reply #95 on: August 21, 2008, 05:05:26 AM »
Grumpy, thanks for the refresher on RE

Now can you or anyone demonstrate a positive experiment that will produce RE and it's effects, e.g. stinging the skin and charging metal objects?

Can this experiment be so documented that it will be reproducible by anyone wanting to learn more of RE and it's effects?

I for one would be grateful if anyone could, and the TPU would be very close at hand.

Please don't point me to another undocumented thread with only claims.

Thanks in advance HD



The people who ever experienced a lightning strike verry close to their body know how this "Stinging sensation" feels.
It is as if you become frozen and unfrozen in a matter of a microsecond it's an incredible static pressure.

My first encounter with Radiant Energy was when i was a kid and i was playing around with amplifiers and ignition coils.
I remember it very well.
I had coupled an old analogue car radio to a 400Watt power for purpose (JBL) car amplifier and this was then conected thrue diodes to prevent backflow to a heavy duty car igniton coil.
I started by tunning the radio to the worst production of noise that was somewhere in the long/mid range.
Sparks were flying out of the igniton coil and it bacame verry hot, and it zapped me a couple of times causing RF burns in my fingers.
It all started to get intresting when i sparked a massive solid copper bar.
I could feel this stinging sensation thrue the isolation of the tools that i was using and this happend when i placed them nearby the copper bar.
It charged up anything made of metal that was in what i called "The Zone"

And so the story began....

Offcource there was no free energy (at least not that i was aware of then) because the system was consuming a lot of power, but it did produce the disruptive discharges.
Here is a simple image of what it had looked liked back in those day's.

Marco.

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Re: SM expose'
« Reply #96 on: August 21, 2008, 05:20:50 AM »
HD  Thank you for starting this thread [and being such a cool guy]
Marco thank you for sharing your experience with HD   Chet

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« Reply #97 on: August 21, 2008, 05:30:50 AM »
Guess I will chime in here seeing as all the old timers are coming out of the wood work. HeyDude some interesting pics there. I don?t post here anymore because I don?t have the time to yak about this and that. I spend all my time in the lab building, testing and documenting. Been over 5 years now. Two points to make here. 1. Ya seems if anyone questions the validity of a claim you get your ass ripped, take stif? for instance. So why waste time if all people in the forum want to be god or act like god. 2. All the builders learn each step of the way, and words like kicks, RE etc mean nothing until actually proven. It?s easy to fake the tpu and it?s easy to get frustrated.

However there are true electrical engineers working on extremely complicated devices to try to come up with the next technology. Not just backyard mechanics either, these guys have a MIT education and huge budgets. What does it matter if SM faked the TPU, he has caused a lot of people to actually think OU may be possible and from that others are trying to make a dream a reality. The writings of Tesla, Holtz, Maxwell and Faraday are incredible, the dedication, the math, the science is amazing.

I think the point is that someday, someone may discover a new technology that will change our reliance on the old ways and only those that continue despite the ridicule will succeed. I have become a turtle and retreated to my shell (lab) because that is the only place where reality and fantasy combine. There is a ton of BS on the net, if the bendi motor really worked why the hell don?t you see it and the theory in true form. Since the 90?s no one with true credentials has proven it works but I bet lots buy his stuff. I bet many asses have been ripped over the truth being told. Like HD said even if SM said ?Oh it was a fake? people will not believe it. However if anyone does actually invent a new power source you can believe all the talk of open source will go out the window because it will be worth billions. Human nature in it?s true form.

Theory is great like brainstorming, Scientific testing of the theory is the next step. But trying to pull the wool over peoples eyes and sell them BS is plain ignorance. All you guys building good on ya. All the armchair theorist good on ya. All those who think they are god and want glory shame on you.

Nway back to my shell. Oh BTW I told you guys 2 years ago to use a battery and not those stupid power supplies, but no one listened. I know cause I have the experience, same with your wall plug scope.
         

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« Reply #98 on: August 21, 2008, 06:33:18 AM »
well im no god ....

im just a kid...   that had a desire to know why and if  it is possoble ...

marco   great job   i really never expected you to do this....

@ hd  nice work

@ mannix    time for you to come clean ...  you did start this entire thing....

all else

enjoy

it is possible ......   To build a device as steven describes in his words................... 

 :)

ist

my hard work.....

Michelinho

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« Reply #99 on: August 21, 2008, 06:46:00 AM »


Hi c0mster,

I am sorry to disagree with most you say but it is my point of view.

You feed off the lips of theorists, all your researches are based on theories, they must have some values.

I agree that when you are at a point, the lab is mandatory but the theories stay with you and may die with you if the knowledge is not dispersed. We live in an age which promotes secrecy and we are going nowhere that way. Or the way they want us to take. Time has come for us to evolve.

Take care,

Michel




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« Reply #100 on: August 21, 2008, 07:12:02 AM »
I don?t feed of the lips of theorists. What makes you say that and what is your evidence? I question and test the theory?s of those that claim OU. I do my own research and test my own theories. I study those I mention and they are not theorists. I also openly provide my results on my youtube site. Do you really believe that the state of the world will change and that the lies, conspiracies and secrecies will change? Seems like in the last  few years it?s only gotten worse. I agree it?s time to evolve and await the change, but what will create the changing factor? War? The coming of Christ? Or the TPU? I can say this: my grandma who is 95 and smart as a whip has told me of a time when people worked together and helped each other. A time when money was not god. It was the 1940?s after the war. But that?s off track. Besides one mans discoveries, if real can be replicated by another but a magicians? tricks are almost impossible to recreate. Guess that is what I get for questioning and wanting real evidence.

@innovation_station
Drive that unit with capacitors and collect the output with caps. Calculate the joules. As Tesla said capacitors and RE go hand in hand so if it truly produces RE then you should have a gain otherwise it's only normal BEMF spike due to the collapsing magnetic field. 

http://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/Materials-Science-and-Engineering/3-225Fall-2007/CourseHome/index.htm

http://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/Electrical-Engineering-and-Computer-Science/6-302Spring-2007/CourseHome/index.htm

http://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/Electrical-Engineering-and-Computer-Science/6-630Fall-2006/CourseHome/index.htm

This is not just theory.
http://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/Physics/8-02Electricity-and-MagnetismSpring2002/VideoAndCaptions/index.htm

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« Reply #101 on: August 21, 2008, 07:23:08 AM »


Re: c0mster

Physics is based on theory... I can name a few that helped you, Faraday, Einstein, Maxwell, Tesla.....

Take care,

Michel

The time has come for the change, it is here and now.

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« Reply #102 on: August 21, 2008, 07:28:25 AM »
Aye but it is proven  ;)

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« Reply #103 on: August 21, 2008, 07:43:22 AM »

Hi comster,

I really do wish you the greater luck in your researches and IF I can be of any help, I will gladly do so.

I like your way of thinking but your angry side keeps you from great achievements. I feel it, don't ask me how.

Bless you and all the great searchers,

Michel

I am part theorist, part experimenter. I theorize a concept, being it form letters of patent or just pictures to develop a model that I can experiment on. Most of the time, bless my parents, my chain of thoughts and sketches, brainstorming sessions help me work efficiently and safely as I consider all aspects involved before I start building. Not everyone works  the same and for the same reasons. You are welcome to check how I work in the Stubblefield Cell project, my Newman project and now the TPU new (?) theory. According to my theory, supra conduction or supra paramagnetism is involve as iron and copper transforms to copper and iron oxides under a strong magnetic field. All the theorists will have a contribution to bring on IT as I only have limited scientific education (college level) but the mass amount of data and experience I have ingested in my life are coming home to roost so to speak.

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Re: SM expose'
« Reply #104 on: August 21, 2008, 08:11:13 AM »
@ c0mster


indeed you are correct the unit as presented does not produce RE  therefore i cannot charge caps as would be expicted with RE ie speed or as tesla states time...

there are reasons for this...  the diodes remove em you get re but also may get a blowen ss device..... 

answer tubes


however this does at a slow rate charge batteryies  for a low cost ....  highely efficent yes overunity no!!

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dont get me worng caps may be added  ;) 8)