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giantkiller

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Re: SM expose'
« Reply #75 on: August 21, 2008, 12:43:32 AM »
@Marco,
Is that really you with your rad suite on?

--GK

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« Reply #76 on: August 21, 2008, 01:12:04 AM »
Grumpy

This is the smallest one of three labs in my home, expressly for low distortion sine wave testing of TPU's and other devices. Shown are three HP204C oscillators driving three Dynaco MKIII 100 Watt tube power amps. The tube amps are modified and allow access to the plate currents for high voltage +/-400V  direct drive of the coil under test.
Also shown is a long bifilar transmission line and on the lower bench, a small homebuilt dual avalanche generator capable of high voltage picosecond pulses.

There is much much more, I could flood this thread with images, also of my TPU failed attempts, but that is not what this thread is about. If you can't figure out what this thread is about, I take the full blame for being a poor communicator, as I also expect SM to take his share for his failed communications and mentoring regarding the TPU. Or perhaps I am a poor student.

Regards.....HD

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Re: SM expose'
« Reply #77 on: August 21, 2008, 01:26:35 AM »
Here's my attempt at the Chris Hazelton device.

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Re: SM expose'
« Reply #78 on: August 21, 2008, 01:28:41 AM »
Delete 

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Re: SM expose'
« Reply #79 on: August 21, 2008, 01:36:51 AM »
Heres some capacitors I'm getting ready to build into decade boxes for rotoverter resonance testing.

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« Reply #80 on: August 21, 2008, 01:39:06 AM »
And a very early (2006) attempt at a TPU. I like quality builds even if it takes a little longer.

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Re: SM expose'
« Reply #81 on: August 21, 2008, 01:39:34 AM »
a small homebuilt dual avalanche generator capable of high voltage picosecond pulses.

This is good.

So, um, if you are doing all of this experimentation, why the bash on the TPU?

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« Reply #82 on: August 21, 2008, 01:46:00 AM »
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HD   you don't strike me as a  more  more  more  kind of guy  Have you ever seem a scope shot like the Bell echo shot that GK posted? Chet

As a matter of fact, I can duplicate that Bell shot at will and have. It represents a typical current starved oscillator. The bell shape is easy to analyze, caused by the initial supply capacitor decaying, then the oscillation quenches. Then the whole process repeats. It was common years ago in burst oscillators. (sorry to burst anyone's bubble but you asked I tell.) No BS nothing magic, despite the hoopla.

If you like, I'll set up the oscillator, try to get an image tonight and post it.

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« Reply #83 on: August 21, 2008, 02:14:32 AM »
I have already posted scope shots of my kicks.
People always want more more more.
Especially if you hand them something.
If you hand them something they will return quickly demanding more.

Etc. etc.

5u4GB experiment as described by Steven mark.

ok marco. you did post this pic. i like and respect your work, but a few details other than what can be read of SM's texts would be appreciated.

with a little time, i could design a simple electronics circuit (real OR simulated) with op-amps, diodes, resistors and capacitors to achieve a very similar if not exact result as your pic. if i posted that scope shot would i be inducted into the hall of TPU Elite fame? wouldn't anyone ask for details, or would all just accept it as fact that i have posted a "kick"? i could throw in a pic of some large transformers to close the sale.

i'm not saying you faked this, so don't go there. i'm saying that without a few details along with a diagram, how is your scope shot any more valid than what mine would be? i can design a circuit to give you just about any wave form that has been posted in this forum, including the bell or whatever it is. that's not the point though is it.

what's frustrating is there's all kinds of wave form pictures being posted, but none or few with an accompanying diagram that would allow others to replicate it.

why not let others try to replicate the effect you got the same way?

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« Reply #84 on: August 21, 2008, 02:18:16 AM »
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So, um, if you are doing all of this experimentation, why the bash on the TPU?

My intention is not to bash the TPU, but to attempt to have removed a veneer of misdirection that I believe has been presented.
I cannot do that, it is up to Lindsay Mannix, Jack Durban, and SM himself.

I encourage critical thinking to get at that truth. If you read what I have posted carefully, you'll see that I believe a TPU like device can be reproduced as a real device......once we get over the misdirection. I can't say which is the correct direction, all I know is this many brilliant people working over two years should have produced positive results by now. I smell something wrong, not with the researchers here, but what they have been given.

Just my take on it, I believe some others agree. You have the perfect right, and I support your right to disagree.

HD

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« Reply #85 on: August 21, 2008, 02:22:49 AM »
Chet, why did you delete your post, my comment was not directed at you.

Poynt, I agree. Without a schematic and test setup document, no one can duplicate or peer review, and the presenter gets to ride of as a hero, complaining about people who want more, more.

This kind of BS would never hold up in the Royal Society, The Journal of Physics or any other peer review scientific setting, why do we put up with it here?

The presenter should prepare a pdf document with schematic, test setup, test procedure and observations. Others duplicate and critique the effort. It is then accepted or rejected. This is the way science moves forward.

To hide behind "they always want more, more more" when hardly anything at all is given is reminiscent of someone who didn't complete the job, and now complains when asked to.

Sorry I call it as I see it, no offense intended, maybe we can all do better.

HD

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Re: SM expose'
« Reply #86 on: August 21, 2008, 02:34:48 AM »
Sorry HD I deleted it before you posted it  I felt it out of context with your intent for this thread  Chet PS I  see your intentions I will not delete again  If you don't mind questions I have one more? Have you seen the green plazma light that Grumpy and Gutoluc[in another thread] have spoke of?

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« Reply #87 on: August 21, 2008, 02:40:00 AM »
Chet, thats OK, I will answer any technical question as honestly, clearly and straightforward as possible even if not germane to the thread, you can always PM me.

BTW, Marco, I experimented with the 5U4 / 5AR4 circuit per SM's directions for a quite a while early on. He only mentioned two transformers slightly out of phase. You show four in your pictures. Also he said there was hash and all kind of frequencies produced. Your scope shot shows a very periodic pulse type waveform typical of transformer saturation effect
and no hash. That screen should be nearly filled with all kinds of noise floating by difficult to sync to.

Can you explain or present your work in an appropriately detailed technical document?
« Last Edit: August 21, 2008, 03:17:05 AM by HEYDUDE »

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Re: SM expose'
« Reply #88 on: August 21, 2008, 02:46:10 AM »
OK.  So here we are at the water barrell shootin' the bull:

A very interesting statement by SM:

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SM ? TAO - The Secret
I want to mention about something I read on the site. A person named TAO wrote this to you a
while back:
>As a gesture of good faith towards you and the rest I'll throw out some insights...
Lets talk about the 'kick.' When the old Edison DC generators were turned on, back in the day,
they released this 'kick' and killed many workers in the process. A man by the name of Tesla had
seen this. He wondered how and why this 'kick' would occur. So he experimented with wire and
disruptive discharges from capacitors. It was found by him that this kick could be made so
powerful that it could explode wires instantly. This kick came out of the wires perpendicularly. He
discharged capacitors into stout wire and through a spark gap. The key to the kick's strength and
appearance was in how fast Tesla discharged the capacitors into the spark gap AND how fast Tesla
STOPPED the flow of current AT the spark gap. Tesla used all types of devices to stop this flow of
current, magnets, a flame, counter-rotating engines. His goals were to get the time in which the
discharge is STOPPED to be much quicker. As Tesla did this he found that the perpendicular
radiations, the ones from the wires, caused electrical effects to appear in wires and other
copper/metal materials near the STOPPED current/discharge. These electrical effects could be
made to create electrons on other wires and copper around his STOPPED current/discharge wire.
So, based on those things, lets look at the Mark device. Lets say Steven put one big stout cable
around or in the rings,and all around these he had many many windings. Now, if Steven put into
that stout cable a current and before the current could get to the end of the wire, he stopped it's
flow abruptly, then perpendicular radiations (the KICKS), the same Tesla observed, would appear
and spread from this stout cable, this would cause Tesla'a copper charging effect, which would hit
all the other wires in Steven's coils. Now, if Steven wired the coils right and stopped the discharge
of the current through the coils he would be able to extract a lot of extra energy from the tap points
on the coils. This is basically how Tesla's magnifying transmitter works.
Capacitors discharged ABRUPTLY into a wire, then the current flow is stopped ABRUPTLY
before the current makes it to the end of the wire, and this KICK comes out of the wires
perpendicularly. This KICK would then charge copper with electrons(hot electricity) or their
opposites(cold electricity). It just depends on how you setup the device.
So, I would say that Steven's KICKS have a direct relationship to Tesla's Magnifying Transmitter,
its REAL operation.<
So Lindsay, this guy definitely has the secret. I do not know if he will be able to duplicate power
generation, but he does have the secret.
Do you think he knows it?
The only part he doesn't have any idea about is that by starting the oscillation you cause the
current to flow in the collector which causes the magnification of the process within the collector
which will ultimately produce the greater voltage and power in usable amounts during operation.
Lindsay, it is so VERY hard to describe things with words!
Sincerely, SM

At the time, I had barely heard of Tesla's radiant electric event (RE) - Marco knew what it was and so did a few others.

Once you get your head around RE, you start to see how it is the secret behind many devices.

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« Reply #89 on: August 21, 2008, 03:03:19 AM »
 Grumpy, thanks for the refresher on RE

Now can you or anyone demonstrate a positive experiment that will produce RE and it's effects, e.g. stinging the skin and charging metal objects?

Can this experiment be so documented that it will be reproducible by anyone wanting to learn more of RE and it's effects?

I for one would be grateful if anyone could, and the TPU would be very close at hand.

Please don't point me to another undocumented thread with only claims.

Thanks in advance HD