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Mannix

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GUESS WHO THE DUDE IS
« Reply #45 on: August 20, 2008, 06:48:12 AM »
Fun time ,

The barking terriers of doubt have raised the challenge to...  Guess WHO AM I?

I wont be able to  sleep until I find out...

gis a clue ay?

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Re: SM expose'
« Reply #46 on: August 20, 2008, 06:54:13 AM »

Hi HEYDUDE,

I was not joking, the TPU present problem is: "I am in a circle surrounded by pains."

Work your brain to make it work, just like I do. And the tpu is real just as the Stubblefield cell.

Happy replicating,

Michel

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Re: SM expose'
« Reply #47 on: August 20, 2008, 10:48:47 AM »

Marco

You've been telling us this for two years now, "very old principle...yada...certain elements...yada.......right mix of elements.


Not true.
But i'm not going to spend much time replying to you. :D


Lighten up Marco, you take yourself way too seriously. Put your hand in a bucket of water, then pull it out. Did you leave an impression.....no!

BTW. I'm not Darren, sorry, your psychic powers need a recharge


Well why are you "hiding" under the name of the heydude?
Darren left out some time ago so i was thinking you might be him, not that much of a problem.

It seems you are not talented enough to do the job, but HEY dude this is not a reason to bring Steven and his invention down.

Time's up for you.
Oh by the way that dancing magnet video was verry,verry real.

Marco.

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Re: SM expose'
« Reply #48 on: August 20, 2008, 02:21:51 PM »
OK. Very long post.

It is a pity that amongst members here of obvious above average intelligence, that one would be surprised to read a thread such as this. Any intelligent, lucid, pragmatic and inquisitive individual who would go through all the published SM materials, will usually come to the same type of conclusions as @HD did.

People equate "not believing in SM and his devices" with "not believing in the overunity endeavor as a whole". Big mistake.

Those who genuinely believe in overunity endeavors MUST ALSO BELIEVE in the verifiable basis of our endeavors, and when such verifiable basis is not possible or hints of deception, then in order to preserve the truly unbiased nature of this field of activity, one must openly question and or deny those that wish to commandeer our orientations. Big words maybe, but this is the responsible thing to do.

So to recap the units and how they could be fakes, let's consider the following;

FTPU: Failed to apply a load. Any small battery and hash circuit could make a meter read 70 volts dc for about 10 minutes. No amperage was shown. Nothing in this video spells OU.

OTPU: Lamps could have batteries lodged inside. Wall outlet could have been shorted. That's for the lamp/battery/visual effect side of the demo. I'll give you a new angle in the next units. Now for the voltage readings off the OTPU before the lamps were connected, again small batteries inside the OPTU could have generated enough dc hash to produce the voltage readings only. Voltage, no amperage. Then when the battery operated lamps were connected, of course you would not see a change because the lamp batteries held the amperage and did not change the voltage reading when he checked it with the lamps on. Then came the illusion of the amazing increased output when the second lamp was connected. Also, the blue plug assembly he connected to the OTPU could have the same shorted plugs and was never really connected to the unit. Ask yourself why he put separate output speaker terminals on the OTPU which was the only place he measured voltage. In Part II of this video he then removed the blue plug assembly and connects the lamps directly to the output wires to show there was no batteries in the plug assembly. Again, those output wires are simply shorted duds. Nothing in this video spells OU.

STPU: This is the 4" unit. We did not see the lamp being unplugged from a wall outlet. He shows it is a 100W bulb, but that could have been printed and the bulb could have been a 12vdc bulb.
With the new round toroid look making it easier to stash more batteries inside the ring, thus doing away with the batteries in the lamp. He checks the voltage without the lamp only. Shows 100 volts but again no amps. He then connects the 12vdc bulb and the STPU has enough batteries to light the 12 volt bulb. Nothing in this video spells OU.

6TPU: This is the 6" unit. This one will require more explanation because SM now used a combination of schemes to give the illusion of this device. No more batteries in the lamps. Wow. The lamp bulb was shown to have a printed 100w and was plugged into the wall outlet, but showed a highly suspicious low brightness when plugged to the wall. This could easily be another 12vdc bulb with printed 100w. The wall outlet could have an internal bridge rectifier and resistor thus making it seem to run with the 110vac wall outlet but in fact is running on 12vdc. The stage is set for another trickery.

He flicks the toggle switch to turn on the unit (or connect the many hidden batteries). He then checks the voltage showing 121vdc, and again, with enough batteries inside the tpu, he could create this illusion since there was no amperage (current) actually measured. He then plugs the bulb into the unit to close the amperage illusion of running a 100w/110vac bulb.  And again, nothing in this video spells OU.

MTPU and LTPU: I will treat both units as the same. Both units have a suspicious center base. The tpu's themselves are sunken into the top platform (confirmed by the cut-away) creating an illusion that the top platform is all one piece from the outer to the center of the TPU but we can easily see it is not. This creates a whole level of possibilities to harbor as many batteries as you can imagine under the center platform. I counted enough space for a minimum of 206 9v batteries. Again he measures the voltage without the load, but never with the load. Again, he takes bulbs from boxes, but all these bulbs could easily be dc bulbs, and when you consider the total brightness of all the bulbs when lit with 830 volts, you can easily see they are but a small percentage of the real brightness coming form a real 100w bulb.

This alone should disqualify the LPTU from any real indication of being an OU device. Very simply, if anyone wants to try it out, take 10 bulbs, connect them in parallel, put them on a rheostat and plug it into any wall outlet and see how bright the bulbs get at full rheostat drawing 10 amps. Measure the total amperage and voltage. Then decrease the rheostat to 80% to approximate 830 watts. Now see the bulbs. Are they much brighter then the 10 bulbs shown in the video. Just try it with one 100w bulb and a rheostat and compare the brightness. You can barely look at a 100w bulb. With 830 watts of bulbs that whole room should have been lit like heavens doorway.

Now the above is by no means the full extent because I could go on for a few more pages, but is enough to understand more and more about the TPU videos, we can more and more realize that this is nothing more then a tactical trickery. It is more evident then ever before of SM's obvious failure to, as he says in one of his last posts on this forum and roughly summarized - that he "thought of ever single aspect of these videos to make sure there was no doubt whatsoever of the veracity regarding the genuine abilities of his devices". SM obviously did not count on his devices and videos being analyzed so deeply. Well we know today that he has failed in this regard because all of the SM Demos and TPU's could be faked and his attempt to make such videos in a manner that spells OU has failed the minimal litmus test we would expect from any other inventors.

I am not saying the devices ARE fakes, I am saying that SM never provided videos that could refute any claim of fakery. Rule number 1, sometimes the best video is the one you don't make, or fake. Had to add that in there. People have cheated for far less then what was at stake. Question: If you were busy working out a way to nicely hide batteries in a device, would you want to work with others or do it alone? Would you want everyone to know about your batteries. Of course not. So you work alone and trust no one.

As for investors taking exceptional measures to ensure the devices worked before investing, that is total bull and does not take into account the reality of opportunistic investors looking and willing to take that exceptional chance to grab a piece of the action while it is passing, otherwise it would be too late later on. Investors are not all scientists and because of this, most investors always make calculated risks with money they are "willing" to lose. Which they did, but no one will admit it because of the failure syndrome. Nobody likes a loser.lol

But, regardless of all this "SM sagalating" (new word meaning - lactating over an endless SM saga) and regardless of if SM is legit or not, for he could be the worlds biggest fake for all I care, this does not change the fact that, unlike SM, there are many here with good ideas and working hard with honorable intentions to see that the world will one day have free energy devices.

The day OU comes to fruition, we will realize that the true working TPU is far from the fictional TPU depicted by SM and we will be able to say that all this effort was not due to the aid of SM, but was accomplished despite the major distractions SM had placed on all here. Imagine if the same amount of time was given to Tesla's works.

So, if there is only ONE thing I would like guys here to understand from all of this is that you all have the right to claim everything you do in the realm of free energy as your own devices, your own creations resulting from your own endless personal efforts and also the combined efforts from other members here. SM will simply be known as "the man who never was", or, "the man who lost free energy", or, "the man who faked free energy", or, "the man who shafted human kind". Whatever it is, it is entirely of SM's doing. He will never be known as "the man who helped humanity enter a new era". Something I am sure we all aspire too.

Need I add more. OK maybe.........

As a last personal note to you, now, @HD, if you can put as much energy and precision as you have put above into more research into free energy, this is what primes over all. But if we are to spend more time on SM'tions, then we are just wasting a very precious commodity. The clock is ticking and we are still tocking.

All the best.

wattsup

PS: Just to make one point very clear to those who don't know me. My not believing that the SM TPUs worked, does not mean I believe they could not work. This is not the same thing. For me, SM figured out a way to obtain steady higher voltage readings on a meter by using lower voltage batteries. That's it, that's all. His first FTPU video started to bring in the cash and to get more and more cash, he had to show some kind of device progression, always under his terms, always in his controlled environments. SM faked the units and the ultimate proof of this is he hired JD to try and find other ways of creating the same effect, not to create OU, but to create a new illusion. Then when he is asked how it works, he says, I don't know how it works. Well, what else can he say. If you were in the same position, what would you say? Better still, how can someone make 5 working TPU models and not know how they work, then go about feeding us all this guesswork. The engineer report is total bull and has no mention of amperage. How serious is that. It's a joke. lol

Most here are working to make a TPU a true reality, not a fanciful fictional drama. The day you guys get this in your heads, that will be the day you will free yourself of this SM TPU dead end, and start realizing the great machines your minds are harboring. Erfinder said once that most everyone is feeding us bullshit, including SM, and we can only count on ourselves as individuals to sort through the myriad of crap that is out there, by questioning all. SM is just as lost as the next guy. He just found a way to make some money with it. The perfect fraud. One that no one would want to publicly admit being taken by. One that let's you dish out all sorts of excuses.

You can attack the devices, you can attack the methodology, you can attack the intentions, you can attack the instigator, or you can play the attack each other game. This will not change the fact that these devices are VERY EASILY FAKABLE. Nothing will change that fact.

May the true ether be with you.
Free energy to all.

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Re: SM expose'
« Reply #49 on: August 20, 2008, 02:23:44 PM »
yes marco

you are not the only one

the rest of you have not worked hard enough!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

how many ways do i need say it

now go build a bedini motor..................

can it be easyer .......   no!!!!!!!


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Re: SM expose'
« Reply #50 on: August 20, 2008, 03:34:47 PM »
Hi Wattsup

Thank you for your intelligent, well thought out post. I admire most all of your posts because you seem to be a serious researcher, willing to openly share your findings and you put an awful lot of effort into your work, especially the SM devices. I have followed your diligent work with admiration.

This is in stark contrast to those who hide behind a wall of arrogant, secretive and condescending behavior.

For the record, I have been a ardent believer in the possibility of FE for over 30 years, almost half my life. During the last 30 or so years, I spent a lot of time and money building many devices purported to produce FE.

Perhaps Marco is right, I am not talented enough, I make no claims at superior talent, I am mostly self taught, having as my heroes Faraday, Steinmetz, Tesla, and many of the researchers who openly and unselfishly gave of their efforts in the early days of electrical discovery. I have a large library and lab, many vacuum tubes, tons of equipment, and yes, Marco, I know the dancing magnets video is real, I did that experiment probably long before you arrived on the planet, I'm glad you were able to video it.

I am not a PChero,do spend much of my time in the lab experimenting or building new test equipment and setups. Over the years I've developed a keen sense of when something has a little BS mixed up with it.

I'm not trying to take SM down, just trying to sort out the facts from fiction surrounding the SM mystery. Seeing the videos for the first time, I was awed. Here was the device I thought posssible many, many years ago, but was never talented enough to create.

I had blind faith in the beginning, but blind faith does exactly that, it blinds you to the glaring inconsistencies that appear in the overall story.

No one hopes more than I that the SM offerings are real, having spent a long time searching for that Holy Grail that would truly revolutionize the world, I hope to see someone crack it before I pass over.

So this thread should now take a turn to an honest and heartfelt call for the major players to come clean, lay all their cards on the table and help to clarify the SM mysteries in any way possible. Will Mannix kindly clarify the four questions I asked earlier?

Grumpy: Kindly leave your vulgar expressions for your own threads.....second request, thank you. I'm sure you are a nice guy, that kind of talk demeans you.

Thank you all for your positive contributions to unraveling the mystery.

HD

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Re: SM expose'
« Reply #51 on: August 20, 2008, 04:43:11 PM »
I had no idea that "ass" was vulgar - after all, if it were not for "ass" none of us would be here...LOL!

I will continue to think that you are "pennies", otherwise you would not have recognized my artwork on your tent wall.  You have proven yourself to be very skilled at taking the words of others and applying them to your advantage.

So, Heydude, can you back up any of your claims of building this and that with photos?

With SM's device, as with every other one that is not fully documented or understood, there will always be a hearty helping of BS, assumption, and erronious interpretations.  SM stated himself that he did not fully know how it works and that he could not speak directly regarding several aspects of the device.

The test reports you ask for are pointless even if they were available.  If you don't believe that the device worked as claimed, then persue something else.

As for unravelling the mystery - we are already doing that - you may join in at any time - but with work not just words.


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Re: SM expose'
« Reply #52 on: August 20, 2008, 05:53:39 PM »
HD  as a person who is trying to learn[myself] ,and who reads every post on this topic [at this Forum] your intentions sound sincere .However, Grumpy has a point, A BIG point, Your first post regarding the RELIGIOUS zeal of those in this thread, did not sound like a man that was contributing or experimenting for half[30 yrs] his life . Why are you a stranger to the men here?
Why does this seem to be your only contribution here?[a very diligent one] The men here have their teeth into this and it will /is coming into focus  The insight and observations [ post's on concept,scope shots, fires ,etc] made recently are like a crumb trail to the feast Again why are you a stranger? with so many assets? and this is your only contribution ?   Chet

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Re: SM expose'
« Reply #53 on: August 20, 2008, 06:57:13 PM »
Re HEYDUDE ,

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many of the researchers who openly and unselfishly gave of their efforts in the early days of electrical discovery.

Most of them ended up dead, branded as crazy, robbed, threaten or confined BEFORE or during the best part of their life. I don't want a red dot illuminating my third eye. It is corporate terrorism that rules our system and that implies secrecy for security. (Tesla, Stubblefield, Meyers, Newman...............................etc.......)


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I know things that you cannot imagine, I forgot things you will never know... ( Mr X) 

Take care,

Michel


HEYDUDE, if you follow posts, look at the advance on the Stubblefield Cell replication concept that applies in full or in part to a tpu in the last 10 days. A self-generating induction coil that can be made for pennies and works with moisture.

Do not presume of what I know and what my brain can accomplish because you will fall very short (Even I don't know). I trained and nurtured IT for 57 YEARS before it awoke.


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Re: SM expose'
« Reply #54 on: August 20, 2008, 07:11:46 PM »
Chet

I can assure you I have made and continue to make contributions to the forum under another name. I was with this SM thing from the beginning and did a lot of research which I posted here and on the Gn0sis thread as well as Rich's private thread. I also posted a lot on Dave Clarke's forum.

I had insider information from being on this (private) thread that certain members who acted like they knew a lot on OU forum were actually clueless in the private forum and admitted so. Some were very condescending to the members here when they found the private cave.

Now they are back dropping crumbs since that forum folded. There are other private forums I am not privy to nor do I care.
I am a total believer in open source, and think that it is wrong to be a member of an open forum and then be secretive about one's  findings yet are willing to scoop up everyone else's research.

Another deplorable act is to copy and paste detailed technical information into a new topic or thread and fail to acknowledge the source of the info, giving the impression it is their own research or intellect.

I applaud those who unselfishly and freely share info in a forum such as this.

Thanks for reading

HD

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Re: SM expose'
« Reply #55 on: August 20, 2008, 07:36:58 PM »
Shite you sound so depressed i can almost feel it...

Free energy does not exist.
It is impossible.
All of Stevens coils were a fake to get him the money he needed to piss it away with his gay friends.

Now go to bed.

Marco.

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Re: SM expose'
« Reply #56 on: August 20, 2008, 07:43:30 PM »
(depression...)

I applaud those who unselfishly and freely share info in a forum such as this.


Well, HD, I'd love to hear your explanation of my green and violet sparks:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4491.msg121985.html#msg121985

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Re: SM expose'
« Reply #57 on: August 20, 2008, 07:44:58 PM »
I can assure you I have made and continue to make contributions to the forum under another name.


Then why hide behind "HEYDUDE"?

Still waiting for pictures of you work...

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Re: SM expose'
« Reply #58 on: August 20, 2008, 08:23:20 PM »
HD   Thanks, While I can't say I understand your HD thing  It makes me happy that such talent[as yours] does spend time on the solutions  Chet

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Re: SM expose'
« Reply #59 on: August 20, 2008, 08:27:16 PM »
don't get depression confused with frustration.

obviously heydude is frustrated and understandably so.

it's so easy to belittle those that aren't in the know when they express their frustration as a reaction to the crumbs laid out before them.

maybe there are deeper issues here that can't be openly expressed, but what's needed right now is some patience and understanding, from all sides.