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Title: Viktor Schauberger: Energy Evolution book?
Post by: TheOne on August 02, 2008, 06:41:05 AM
Someone from this forum have ever read this book: Viktor Schauberger: Energy Evolution?

I just want to know before to buy this book if its a good book to buy?

Thank you for your comment in advance!
Title: Re: Viktor Schauberger: Energy Evolution book?
Post by: squegee69 on August 02, 2008, 07:43:50 AM
It is a damn good book but nothing that "makes sense" according to accepted views of physics a la' vortex theory - but it tied in well with Witkowski and Nick Cook's views on the Nazi bell.  Look more for TT Brown's work for detailed "how to" info.  William Lynne also has a couple of books that back up this work, but nothing that makes sense to me.  Caveat Emptor:  I am not an expert, but... this may all make something click for you.
Title: Re: Viktor Schauberger: Energy Evolution book?
Post by: TheOne on August 02, 2008, 07:47:24 AM
Sound good, in this book, they show drawing of what they are talking about? Its important to me since I am visual.

Thanks
Title: Re: Viktor Schauberger: Energy Evolution book?
Post by: squegee69 on August 02, 2008, 08:18:23 AM
In this book they show a drawing of a "vortex" same thing you see in nature in every tornado, whirlpool, or toilet drain.  Did not make sense to me as it never gave details of pressure or volumetric data which would make it usable.  Of course, again ,caveat emptor: I wiold LOVE to prove this change gravity.  Would make my day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Schauberg was a naturist - this meaning he deals with nature.  When I think of this today I thnk of forest and Wildlife Cops - basically as a game warden.  It may not be that complex, but since this was the same job Victor S was doing before Nazi SS, may be worth looking into.  Either way, there is an effect occurring.
Title: Re: Viktor Schauberger: Energy Evolution book?
Post by: TheOne on August 02, 2008, 01:13:39 PM
Do you also see some drawing of patents? Some comment about this book say they explain some of his patent but I was wondering if they have picture of it, hopefully not just one picture of the vortex that I already see on internet :)
Title: Re: Viktor Schauberger: Energy Evolution book?
Post by: esaruoho on August 02, 2008, 06:28:50 PM
you need to get all four books.
1) Callum Coats: Water Wizard
2) Callum Coats: Nature As Teacher
3) Callum Coats: Fertile Earth
4) Callum Coats: The Energy Evolution

thing is, all of them will feature drawings and sketches and patents. the energy evolution  will have stuff about the Klimator, Repulsine and something about Heimkraftwerk, and the Air Turbine, water-purification, etc. energy evolution is a good textbook to start with. but you will have to do your own studying and thinking and putting all of these four books together, and reading what viktor schauberger wrote and again making your own notes.

please also consult this place for patents:
http://www.rexresearch.com/schaub/schaub.htm (http://www.rexresearch.com/schaub/schaub.htm)

keep at it. its a long journey.


Title: Re: Viktor Schauberger: Energy Evolution book?
Post by: squegee69 on August 02, 2008, 11:20:31 PM
I also recommend Nick Cook's "Search for Zero Point" book (pretty sure that was the name) as it gave some good contextual background information on Schauberger.  There is not a lot left of Schauberger's writings, almost everything out there is second-hand, but his son did publish a small amount of his memoirs, from what I remember.  If you find more of his writings definitely keep this thread updated with where you found.  I've been fascinated with the "Repulsine" or "Repulsificator" for years, but information is definitely difficult to find.
Title: Re: Viktor Schauberger: Energy Evolution book?
Post by: esaruoho on August 03, 2008, 08:24:01 AM
every SINGLE Issue of Implosion Magazine  has original writings of Viktor Schauberger in them.
yes, last year, J?rg Schauberger, Viktor Schauberger's grand-son, released a book of original writings of Viktor Schauberger, and his sketches, but unfortunately it is in the german language.
It would be the most sensible to get "Nature As Teacher", since it contains the full "Our Senseless Toil" -book written by Viktor Schauberger in 1933. Also, all of the four books compiled by Callum Coats  consist of huge excerpts of articles and writings and letters of Viktor Schauberger.

There is also the "Water - Blood of The Earth" -CDRom which the PKS -school released in 2000, which consists of only his sketches, patents, letters  and also english translations of his writings on water-movement and energy-production -- and of course, "Our Senseless Toil" is on that Cdrom also. it also contains about 8 audiofiles of Viktor speaking, but i have not yet been able to get anyone to make sense of them  due to his bavarian accent.

Also, this year, 2008, PKS will release a DVD on Viktor Schauberger called "Comprehend and Copy", apparently in September.

theres a boatload of viktor schauberger's writings thats available to those who know german, or will go through Eco-Technology series compiled by Callum Coats  to see the excerpts of articles.

Title: Re: Viktor Schauberger: Energy Evolution book?
Post by: squegee69 on August 03, 2008, 09:34:20 AM
Does Implosion Magazine have a website or can you post info on how to obtain it?

Thanks!

every SINGLE Issue of Implosion Magazine  has original writings of Viktor Schauberger in them.
yes, last year, J?rg Schauberger, Viktor Schauberger's grand-son, released a book of original writings of Viktor Schauberger, and his sketches, but unfortunately it is in the german language.
It would be the most sensible to get "Nature As Teacher", since it contains the full "Our Senseless Toil" -book written by Viktor Schauberger in 1933. Also, all of the four books compiled by Callum Coats  consist of huge excerpts of articles and writings and letters of Viktor Schauberger.

There is also the "Water - Blood of The Earth" -CDRom which the PKS -school released in 2000, which consists of only his sketches, patents, letters  and also english translations of his writings on water-movement and energy-production -- and of course, "Our Senseless Toil" is on that Cdrom also. it also contains about 8 audiofiles of Viktor speaking, but i have not yet been able to get anyone to make sense of them  due to his bavarian accent.

Also, this year, 2008, PKS will release a DVD on Viktor Schauberger called "Comprehend and Copy", apparently in September.

theres a boatload of viktor schauberger's writings thats available to those who know german, or will go through Eco-Technology series compiled by Callum Coats  to see the excerpts of articles.


Title: Re: Viktor Schauberger: Energy Evolution book?
Post by: esaruoho on August 03, 2008, 03:51:32 PM
Does Implosion Magazine have a website or can you post info on how to obtain it?

Thanks!


of course :)
http://www.implosion-ev.de/ (http://www.implosion-ev.de/)
http://www.implosion-ev.de/html/zeitschrift_implosion.html (http://www.implosion-ev.de/html/zeitschrift_implosion.html)
Title: Re: Viktor Schauberger: Energy Evolution book?
Post by: TheOne on August 03, 2008, 03:55:20 PM
Thanks guys sound like I will need to buy more then one book :)


Title: Re: Viktor Schauberger: Energy Evolution book?
Post by: allcanadian on August 03, 2008, 04:22:06 PM
The two books I would consider required reading are:
Viktor Schauberger: Energy Evolution
Walter Russel: The Secret of Light
I re-read these books every few months and every time I do this I learn something new  ;)If you want to understand these books you have to understand the men they speak of. You have to understand there terminology, more so with Victor Schauberger than most others. The fourth time I read this book everything started coming together, In this book it should be understood that V.S is speaking of utilizing electrostatic forces to drive his devices and water in various forms(liquid and vapor) is the primary medium to generate these forces through motion relative to a catalyst(usually copper as iron is degenerative). I would suggest not rushing through this book nor expecting immediate understanding of what V.S is talking about, as I said it took four reads before things started to click.
Regards
AC
Title: Re: Viktor Schauberger: Energy Evolution book?
Post by: squegee69 on August 04, 2008, 05:55:31 AM
You've got to admit, Schauberger's principles are not mainstream scientific, at least not in terms of overunity physics or mechanics.  This being said, however, the direction he was going was to let nature lead the way.  I agree with allcanadian - every time I hear Herr Schauberger's name, I learn something new and exciting.  Also thank you to esaruoho!  It is very nice to know of other resources, especially when I was led to believe most of Victor's work was lost between the Nazi's and Operation Paperclip.  I have much more research to do, myself.  Thank you, thank you, thank you!

Peace, all!
-Sq
Title: Re: Viktor Schauberger: Energy Evolution book?
Post by: allcanadian on August 04, 2008, 10:10:20 PM
@squegee69
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You've got to admit, Schauberger's principles are not mainstream scientific, at least not in terms of overunity physics or mechanics.  This being said, however, the direction he was going was to let nature lead the way.
In one sense 90 years ago V.S was well ahead of everyone today in the field of nanotechnology. Take a bucket of water, this water has a know exterior surface area thus can carry or retain a given amount of electrostatic charge. Now break this bucket of water into droplets and the suface area thus charge carrying abilty can increase thousands of times----- now as V.S tells us send this known volume of water through fine capilliary tubes and break this liquid water into billions of particles on the nano-scale and the amount of surface area thus charge generated by motion can increase millions of times over. This is the basis of nanotechnology--- that things seperated into tiny pieces do not behave the same as when they are all together and V.S understood this point very well 90 years ago. Pure Genius ;D
Title: Re: Viktor Schauberger: Energy Evolution book?
Post by: squegee69 on August 07, 2008, 07:57:34 AM
@squegee69In one sense 90 years ago V.S was well ahead of everyone today in the field of nanotechnology. Take a bucket of water, this water has a know exterior surface area thus can carry or retain a given amount of electrostatic charge. Now break this bucket of water into droplets and the suface area thus charge carrying abilty can increase thousands of times----- now as V.S tells us send this known volume of water through fine capilliary tubes and break this liquid water into billions of particles on the nano-scale and the amount of surface area thus charge generated by motion can increase millions of times over. This is the basis of nanotechnology--- that things seperated into tiny pieces do not behave the same as when they are all together and V.S understood this point very well 90 years ago. Pure Genius ;D
I have always believed that the closer we come to understanding, the simpler things become.  This was my analogy to VS being a Game Warden.  This should not be difficult, it was put here for us to benefit from in the beginning, but since we can remember, someone else was always there telling us how :complicated: things could be.  I do not believe.  Thank you for your assistance and insight!  As always, I am humbled and seek only the simplest solution.

Peace!
Title: Re: Viktor Schauberger: Energy Evolution book?
Post by: wile_coyote7 on August 08, 2008, 04:41:47 AM
@TheOne

 ;) You might also like the book:

Self-organizing Flow Technology - in Viktor Schauberger's Footsteps

by Lars Johansson, Morten Ovesen, and Curt Hallberg

I can email you the PDF of the book if you want. It's around 3MB in size.

Title: Re: Viktor Schauberger: Energy Evolution book?
Post by: squegee69 on August 08, 2008, 06:20:11 AM
@TheOne
 ;) You might also like the book:
Self-organizing Flow Technology - in Viktor Schauberger's Footsteps
by Lars Johansson, Morten Ovesen, and Curt Hallberg
I can email you the PDF of the book if you want. It's around 3MB in size.14
@wile_coyote7
Would you email to me?  Thank you!
-Peace! Sq
Title: Re: Viktor Schauberger: Energy Evolution book?
Post by: TheOne on August 08, 2008, 06:33:49 AM
Here all the books :)

http://www.mininova.org/tor/931007
Title: Re: Viktor Schauberger: Energy Evolution book?
Post by: esaruoho on August 08, 2008, 09:39:31 AM
that torrent is otherwise pretty full and useful but misses these:

Jane Cobbald: Viktor Schauberger - a Life of Learning from Nature (2006)
J?rg Schauberger/Viktor Schauberger - Das Wesen des Wassers (2007)


and of course itd be sensible to hunt down a torrent of that Water - Blood of the earth   PKS cdrom.
or get it from a couple of places (i believe implosionresearch  has one)

Title: Re: Viktor Schauberger: Energy Evolution book?
Post by: squegee69 on August 09, 2008, 08:23:48 AM
wow!  color me educated!  I thought there was not much out there about VS.  This is very impressive and thank you all for the input.  I know *TheOne* started this thread, but heck, this has been excellent so far, and has gone much further than I would have imagined.  Thanks all!

-Peace!
-Sq
Title: Re: Viktor Schauberger: Energy Evolution book?
Post by: esaruoho on August 09, 2008, 01:14:21 PM
also you might find this fun

http://del.icio.us/esaruoho/schauberger (http://del.icio.us/esaruoho/schauberger)
Title: Re: Viktor Schauberger: Energy Evolution book?
Post by: lancaIV on May 30, 2021, 01:43:57 AM
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Schauberger (https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Schauberger)


https://archive.org/details/19470514DerMagnetischeStromUraniavortrag/page/n3/mode/2up (https://archive.org/details/19470514DerMagnetischeStromUraniavortrag/page/n3/mode/2up)


.......

Die Materie bewegt sich also im homogenen Magnetfeld in schraubenfoermigen Bahnen -helicoiden Bewegungen.

Diese die gesamten Naturwissenschaften erschuetternde Erscheinung hat ihr Gegenstueck auch im homogenen elektrischen Feld.


.......


https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felix_Ehrenhaft (https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felix_Ehrenhaft)


Most impressive experiments were shown in Ehrenhaft's lecture, including for "photophoresis", ie for the movement of small aerosol particles (https://pifh2gjvrytv4tngczx67uyumu-ac4c6men2g7xr2a-de-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Aerosol) under the influence of light. There were straight orbits, circular orbits and screw orbits to admire (cf. Ehrenhaft's article from 1951 and 1952, see below). It was not until many years later that Hans Rohatschek (one of his former assistants) was able to show by calculation how these complicated movements can be explained by radiometer (https://pifh2gjvrytv4tngczx67uyumu-ac4c6men2g7xr2a-de-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Radiometer) forces (radiometers are the small vaned wheels in a glass ball under low air pressure, blackened on one side, which rotate in the light ).
According to Rohatschek (see below), Ehrenhaft's results of the non-integer value of e and the apparent individual magnetic poles can now be explained by photophoresis in an electric or magnetic field. At the end of the 1940s he was still looking for magnetic monopoles in cosmic radiation (https://pifh2gjvrytv4tngczx67uyumu-ac4c6men2g7xr2a-de-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Kosmische_H%C3%B6henstrahlung) in Vienna .


schraubenfoermig = spirally - helicoidal


Question : gesamten Naturwissenschaften erschuetternde Erscheinung
                 =        the entire natural sciences shocking phenomenon            ?


                Changed it something ? 1947-2021 review !!