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Cap-Z-ro

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Cheney Plan Exposed: Kill Americans To Provoke War With Iran
« on: August 01, 2008, 11:55:40 PM »


"The New Yorker ? revealed that Bush administration officials held a meeting recently in the Vice President?s office to discuss ways to provoke a war with Iran."

"The ?meeting took place in the Vice-President?s office. ?The subject was how to create a 'casus belli' between Tehran and Washington,""

'...during the meeting...an idea was considered to dress up Navy Seals as Iranians, put them on fake Iranian speedboats, and shoot at them.'


More here...

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/07/31/cheney-proposal-for-iran-war/

b0rg13

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Re: Cheney Plan Exposed: Kill Americans To Provoke War With Iran
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2008, 02:24:27 AM »
is any one REALLY supprised that this stuff goes on?, im not...

..what REALLY supprises me is that these people remain in power and continue to dick(YES pun indended) with us and kill us ...if i had a gun and his address id hate to think what i might do in my sleep( would that be a good excuse?).

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Re: Cheney Plan Exposed: Kill Americans To Provoke War With Iran
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2008, 06:29:15 AM »

The fact that such ideas are even discussed at that level is cause for alarm...as is the lack of response.

Whats to stop them from going nuclear ?

I have said all along that they were criminally insane this confirms it.

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Re: Cheney Plan Exposed: Kill Americans To Provoke War With Iran
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2008, 07:38:46 AM »
There is nothing new under the sun.  Especially not in the area of Dick Cheney's office!  In the event we end up "at war" with another nation piror to the GWBush extraction from office, you can rest assured it benefits the big OIL cartels via Cheney's purview.

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Re: Cheney Plan Exposed: Kill Americans To Provoke War With Iran
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2008, 04:20:38 PM »
Howdy Y'all,

The Forces of Light prevent them from using the nukes.  War is big business to these people.  They make HUGE profits from starting wars and the money is extracted from the general public taxpayers.  The people need to wise up to this.  This is treason pure and simple.  The penalty for treason was death until the politicians changed it.  Now the penalty for is leisure time at a country club they call a minimum security prison.

Reinstate the death penalty for treason!

Blessed Be Brothers...

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Re: Cheney Plan Exposed: Kill Americans To Provoke War With Iran
« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2008, 06:51:57 PM »
You as a single person cannot stop war nor can you control governments, you can however take actions to remove the conditions needed for wars to start and act to create conditions in which governments must act in our best interest as a matter of public opinion, this is the power of every individual. If any one of you developed a free energy technology and open sourced this technology across the internet for everyone to use this kind of stupidity we see would not need to take place. We should also understand "there" perspective, If the U.S runs out of oil or even if there is a shortage of it this so called mighty nation of the stong and free will fall flat on there faces--very embarrassing ;D. They will be thrown back into the stone age and governments are not supposed to let this kind of thing happen so in there own twisted way they "are" representing the best interests of the general public because the general public demands energy and a strong economy which in this day and age are one and the same. There is only one question we need ask----- If you and your family were in the dark, cold and hungry to what lengths would YOU go to secure a better future? and if it came to that point would you give a damn about some people in another country whom you have never met nor seen?. I think deep down we all understand this truth, I can only hope it never comes to that point. Thankfully there are places like this forum where like minded people can come together to find real solutions, now is the time for change not ten years from now when things could be much worse, when possibly it is too late to invoke substantial change. These governments do not accept wild ass theories nor good ideas they demand proof, proven working technology is what they want and it is what we must provide them and the people with.
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Re: Cheney Plan Exposed: Kill Americans To Provoke War With Iran
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2008, 07:47:13 PM »
You as a single person cannot stop war nor can you control governments, you can however take actions to remove the conditions needed for wars to start and act to create conditions in which governments must act in our best interest as a matter of public opinion, this is the power of every individual. If any one of you developed a free energy technology and open sourced this technology across the internet for everyone to use this kind of stupidity we see would not need to take place. We should also understand "there" perspective, If the U.S runs out of oil or even if there is a shortage of it this so called mighty nation of the stong and free will fall flat on there faces--very embarrassing ;D. They will be thrown back into the stone age and governments are not supposed to let this kind of thing happen so in there own twisted way they "are" representing the best interests of the general public because the general public demands energy and a strong economy which in this day and age are one and the same. There is only one question we need ask----- If you and your family were in the dark, cold and hungry to what lengths would YOU go to secure a better future? and if it came to that point would you give a damn about some people in another country whom you have never met nor seen?. I think deep down we all understand this truth, I can only hope it never comes to that point. Thankfully there are places like this forum where like minded people can come together to find real solutions, now is the time for change not ten years from now when things could be much worse, when possibly it is too late to invoke substantial change. These governments do not accept wild ass theories nor good ideas they demand proof, proven working technology is what they want and it is what we must provide them and the people with.
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ARE ALL YOU CANADIANS THIS WACKY?  ;)

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AS MY "INNOVATION POSTER" SAYS...
"THE BEST WAY TO PREDICT THE FUTURE IS TO CREATE IT".

HOPEFULLY SOME DAY WE ALL CAN COLLECTIVELY FIND A WAY TO TAKE THE "ENERGY CARD" AWAY FROM THE WAR MONGERS.



allcanadian

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Re: Cheney Plan Exposed: Kill Americans To Provoke War With Iran
« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2008, 08:14:01 PM »
@CRANKYpants
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"THE BEST WAY TO PREDICT THE FUTURE IS TO CREATE IT".
Now your talking my language ;D
I have been watching you :o and it would seem we are both headed in roughly the same direction in a big hurry, maybe we could make a little wager for the first self runner. How about the first one to produce a 1Kw self-runner gets to bring the war mongers to there knees AND gets a case of ice cold beer from the other person.





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Re: Cheney Plan Exposed: Kill Americans To Provoke War With Iran
« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2008, 08:35:17 PM »
@CRANKYpantsNow your talking my language ;D
I have been watching you :o and it would seem we are both headed in roughly the same direction in a big hurry, maybe we could make a little wager for the first self runner. How about the first one to produce a 1Kw self-runner gets to bring the war mongers to there knees AND gets a case of ice cold beer from the other person.

I'LL GIVE YOU THE BEER...!
I WANT THE SIMPLEST AND CHEAPEST DEVICE THAT ANYONE, ANYWHERE, WITH ANY SKILL AND OR EDUCATION CAN PRODUCE WITH LITTLE OR NO MONEY AT HOME.

INTERESTING HOW HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF EH? ...

BOTH NAPOLEAN AND HITLER KILLED THEIR OWN TROOPS TO JUSTIFY WAR - MAYBE THE BUSH-WHACKER ADMINISTRATION CAN KILL THEIR IRANIAN DRESSED NAVY SEALS IN THE GULF OF TONKIN AND BLAME IT ON BOTH THE CHINESE AND THE IRANIANS AND WE CAN A 2 FOR 1 DEAL AND GET ON WITH WWIII ASAP NOW THAT AMERICAN IDOL AND SO YOU THINK YOU CAN DANCE IS ALMOST OVER?

Thane



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Re: Cheney Plan Exposed: Kill Americans To Provoke War With Iran
« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2008, 08:57:43 PM »
is any one REALLY supprised that this stuff goes on?, im not...

..what REALLY supprises me is that these people remain in power and continue to dick(YES pun indended) with us and kill us ...if i had a gun and his address id hate to think what i might do in my sleep( would that be a good excuse?).

I'm not surprised that the administration would consider manufacturing an incident to start a war, but I'm a bit skeptical  concerning the part about Americans deliberately shooting live ammo at other Americans and putting them in real danger.  Accidental friendly fire incidents already cause huge scandals---a deliberate one, once discovered, would trigger a complete meltdown.  I like reading Seymour Hersh, but he's not 100% reliable.  I'll be interested to see how this story develops.

Cap-Z-ro

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Re: Cheney Plan Exposed: Kill Americans To Provoke War With Iran
« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2008, 10:59:15 PM »

"in there own twisted way they "are" representing the best interests of the general public because the general public demands energy and a strong economy"


They are suppressing the unlimited energy technology to maintain their grip on the economics of the world...they represent their own greedy interests first...and only.



"I'm a bit skeptical  concerning the part about Americans deliberately shooting live ammo at other Americans and putting them in real danger"


My mind immediately took me back to the 3 thousand they murdered on 9/11.

Don't forget all this hatched in the minds of the same people who financed Hitlers gas chambers...people's lives are totally meaningless to these sociopaths.

They say that the chemicals in our diet actually impair the brains capacity to link one event with another to conceptualize a picture of reality...I'm starting to believe it.

If only because the deception is so in your face it is hard to not notice it.

All the outwardly believable people they used to laugh at, who came forward with accounts of truly sick and bizarre behavior of these people turned out to be dead on.

Our world affairs are dictated by a ruthless gang of criminally insane sociopaths...there is no other reasonable conclusion left.

Judge them by what they do...and we heard what Cheney was set to do.

This is not meant to offend...but to awaken a population hypnotized by a box in their living room implementing the 'programing' repeatedly.

Why do you think they run sexually suggestive commercials when the kids are home from school ?

To me, the only people interested in sexualizing young children would be pedophiles...you know, like the ones the Vatican pass from community to community...after some prayer in some retreat (a time out) of course...but only after they got caught a few times.

I'm not saying for sure these criminally insane leaders of ours are pedophiles, but a lot of credible people say they are...and the things they do kind of make it look like they are.

End of another rant...I think maybe I might put an old musical in the VCR and make believe things are the way I thought they used to be.

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Re: Cheney Plan Exposed: Kill Americans To Provoke War With Iran
« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2008, 11:44:01 PM »
<snip>

"I'm a bit skeptical  concerning the part about Americans deliberately shooting live ammo at other Americans and putting them in real danger"


My mind immediately took me back to the 3 thousand they murdered on 9/11.

You can probably tell that I'm not a 9/11 "truther" either.   ;) 

I do think the Bush/Cheney administration has been a complete disaster, and didn't vote for them, but I don't believe that they carried out the 9/11 attacks.  Not by a long shot. 

Cap-Z-ro

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Re: Cheney Plan Exposed: Kill Americans To Provoke War With Iran
« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2008, 01:49:13 AM »


You are all asked to ignore the fact that 2 planes struck - yet 3 buildings fell...and all in their own foot prints.

And that the Marvin Bush company closed off various sections of the buildings in the weeks prior to 9/11...in order to place the charges.


And never mind the quick disappearance of any investigation when the anthrax used in the 9/11 attack was traced back to a CIA lab.


There are those who will continue to drag the issue back to a time where many actually believed the official lie...whereas today over 90% now believe it was a lie.

I think we are seeing some of that regression in this thread...its similar to the conditioning job done through the mainstream media.


Don't drink the kool-aid they sell on TV.


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Re: Cheney Plan Exposed: Kill Americans To Provoke War With Iran
« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2008, 02:06:42 AM »
There are those who will continue to drag the issue back to a time where many actually believed the official lie...whereas today over 90% now believe it was a lie.

90%?  That's quite a high number.  Do you have a source for it?




Cap-Z-ro

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Re: Cheney Plan Exposed: Kill Americans To Provoke War With Iran
« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2008, 02:38:23 AM »

Actually I read somewhere where its over 90 now...likely because of the very things Cheney is proposing...the net news is airing a steady stream of their corruption.

Last I head officially it was over 80%...but that was a while back.

After this latest peek into their mindset...it will probably bi in the high 90 range...especially if Joy Behar of The View gets wind of it...she'll be on that forever.

Anyway...here we are back at 9/11 again...the scene of their past crime...how does that keep happening ?

Instead we all should be scared to death these clowns will blow up the world.

That is where the focus should be...and not on an endless cycle of history rehash...that is what they want - distraction.

Back on point.

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