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Alexioco

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And do you still not understand?
« on: August 01, 2008, 06:47:26 PM »
Ok here is an idea, if we look at that wheel where he says "and do you still not understand?" I noticed something you can do...

I may have found a way to keep the weight of a weight at the top of the wheel always pulling down...

(http://i38.tinypic.com/2ahirur.jpg)

what if that middle thing there is a weight and the 6 lines are string.

The weight would be pulling down on the top part of the wheel at all times...

The string at the bottom would be no use, except that the only problem is that the weight is pulling down both top parts causing equilibrium...

but if we look at MT 27 it does something special, it lifts itself into the cetnre of the wheel by using string and a lever...

Now everytime I look at it I can't understand why the weight does not apply as much weight on the string as it does to the lever, but it doesnt, so this effect needs to be applied to this and we might have something special...

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Re: And do you still not understand?
« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2008, 11:15:28 PM »
Alex, as always you have great ideas!

Alexioco

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Re: And do you still not understand?
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2008, 12:24:21 AM »
Alex, as always you have great ideas!

Thanks my friend :)

If the weight can hang by just string on the right, then seomthing strange will happen...

there needs to be hooks on the weight so that when the string gets to the top, it hooks on the weight before it can drop and unhooks at the bottom.. any ideas?

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Re: And do you still not understand?
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2008, 01:36:54 AM »
Hmmm, let me think about that for a while  :)

AB Hammer

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Re: And do you still not understand?
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2008, 03:29:44 AM »
Greetings Alex

 I have done just what you are purposing. It has a jerking effect and will spin if you spin it, for a few turns and will settle with the weight on the down side. The weight settles below the 3 to 9 mark and finds equilibrium.

Alexioco

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Re: And do you still not understand?
« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2008, 03:40:16 AM »
Greetings Alex

 I have done just what you are purposing. It has a jerking effect and will spin if you spin it, for a few turns and will settle with the weight on the down side. The weight settles below the 3 to 9 mark and finds equilibrium.

Hey Alan, if you can make it so it does not pull on the strings on the left, then it should spin, yes?

p.s When are you showing us your mechanism? I would very much like to study it...

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Re: And do you still not understand?
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2008, 03:46:13 AM »
Alex

 That is what make the jerking action, and each jerk causes the loss of the possible movement with a negative tug.

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Re: And do you still not understand?
« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2008, 04:01:28 AM »
Ok, I think I have got something good here...

Based on the same principle, except that the weights dont pull the strings on the left hand side, only the right which may cause some kind of motion...


Here we go...

(http://i34.tinypic.com/1ny1cw.jpg)

When a weight falls out it pulls on some chord pulling that side of the wheel down, when a weight falls in, the tension on the chord is released as the weight rests on the axle...