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Title: Will this possibly work?
Post by: ewitte on October 06, 2005, 03:33:01 PM
It seems straight forward enough but I'm not sure if it would work.  The idea

6 blade box fan that takes about 15W to run
Put a strong 1" N48 neo magnet at the end of each blade
Have these magnets slide against a huge amount of coils

If the magnetic strength of the combined Neo magenets are greater than the strength of the ones used to turn the blade would it be possible to get more energy than 15W out?  1" Neo magnets are very strong and don't weigh that much.

Eric
Title: Re: Will this possibly work?
Post by: joe on October 07, 2005, 06:43:56 PM
Hi Eric,

Yes, it is possible to produce more power than the motor's demand but you would have to take the fan off and replace it by a circular piece of wood, aluminium or plastic. Let say the fan is 12" in diameter, so you could add someting like 15 to 18 magnets an electromagnets and be able to produce over 100 ac volts and more.

If you need more infos...

Regards Joe
Title: Re: Will this possibly work?
Post by: hartiberlin on October 08, 2005, 12:22:57 AM
Hi,
you need to use different material wire than copper for the coils.
Use iron wire for the coils or a combination of series or parallel
circuits of iron- and copper-wire coils.
This will reduce the drag forces onto the rotor that normally occur,
if you draw current from the coils .

Regards, Stefan.
Title: Re: Will this possibly work?
Post by: ewitte on October 08, 2005, 02:49:23 PM
Hi Eric,

Yes, it is possible to produce more power than the motor's demand but you would have to take the fan off and replace it by a circular piece of wood, aluminium or plastic. Let say the fan is 12" in diameter, so you could add someting like 15 to 18 magnets an electromagnets and be able to produce over 100 ac volts and more.

If you need more infos...

Regards Joe

I'm trying to start smaller than that just to see A current.  For some reason I'm barely getting any kind of voltage.  I mean like 0.01 volts max.  Yet when I hook my mutlimeter up to a small motor and spin the rotor by hand it quickly goes over 1 volt.  I'm using this configuration that totals about 800 windings.  It worked as an electromagnet when I slid metal through the loop and applied current.

http://www.re-energy.ca/t-i_windbuild-1.shtml
Title: Re: Will this possibly work?
Post by: ewitte on October 08, 2005, 03:17:30 PM
BTW this is what I'm currently trying.  The motor is bare.  The whole in CDs are a bigger than the rotor.  I'm putting one on the bottom with the coil and secure tightly.  Then I adapt another cd to fit to the rotor tightly.  This one will have the magnets on it.  I'd be happy with 2-3 volts at this time :(

Eric
Title: Re: Will this possibly work?
Post by: FreeEnergy on October 08, 2005, 10:10:45 PM
i think this is going somewhere!  :o
Title: Re: Will this possibly work?
Post by: joe on October 09, 2005, 04:01:39 AM
Eric and all,

To build a good free energy machine you need at least a motor developping bettwen .25 to .50 horse power and more  and 1 to 3 amps. ( 200 to 400 watts of power)
The diameter of the wheel is important. Bigger is the wheel better it is because the circumference of that wheel is turning a lot faster than the shaft motor and the more magnets you put around that wheel the more energy is extracting from the coils.
Coils with 500 to 800 tuns is ok. The machine i did had 18 coils with 600 turns on each coils and 1 coils was producing betwen 10 and 12 volts if i remember.
Also if you can find a wheel that weight a few pounds than "it helps also a lot" because the weight of the wheel give a steady movement ( i don't know better words to explain it because i am french and my english vocabulary is limited)
Keep on trying and trying even if you make mistakes because on my side i have learnt a lot in doing mistakes!!!

Good Luck   Joe
Title: Re: Will this possibly work?
Post by: ewitte on October 09, 2005, 03:10:21 PM
As soon as I'm successful getting something out of this I'm looking at one of those 300W brushless DC motors that are all over ebay.
Title: Re: Will this possibly work?
Post by: FreeEnergy on October 10, 2005, 11:32:43 AM
sounds a bit like John Bedini's Simplified 'School Girl' Motor.

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Bedini_SG
Title: Re: Will this possibly work?
Post by: lanca III on October 10, 2005, 07:05:11 PM
reply to "JOE:The diameter of the wheel is important.":
Frederick Augustus Knapp GB365209 description line 65+

and Lothar Juenger DE19533870/19533871.

F.A.Knapp also Referenz for Haeusler Zsolt/Hawlitschek.
Title: Re: Will this possibly work?
Post by: lanca III on October 11, 2005, 02:49:02 AM
Franz Hawlitschek DE4031920
Haeusler ZsoltDE10011074
Title: Re: Will this possibly work?
Post by: ewitte on October 11, 2005, 08:06:10 PM
I made a mistake.  That motor is 150 or 165W.  I'm still having winding problems.  I will play around with hooking up to a rectifier and trying DC.  I'm told its possible my meter might just be reading wrong.

Eric
Title: Re: Will this possibly work?
Post by: ewitte on October 14, 2005, 04:26:02 PM
The rectifier got me a voltage.? On a 12 tiny magnet setup and ~800RPM 0.5v.? Has anyone played around with Tesla's coil for electro magnets?? http://www.tfcbooks.com/patents/coil.htm

I did a very quick test and it seems promising

1000-2000 RPM single 1/2" neo magnet
Dual 21Guage strands -- ONLY 3 wraps? -- 9.5mV

versus
Same RPM and magnet
Single 26Guage strands -- ~ 300 wraps -- 60mV

So 100 times the number of wraps but 1/6 the power.? I don't know how much of a change was the coil size.? I'm going to try 20-50 wraps with the same guage.? The interesting thing about this setup is after removing the magnets a charge remains for a LOT longer than the single strand.? By hand I could only get 0.1 - 0.2mV (saw 0.8mV a few times) off that coil but it would REMAIN at times a good minute after I removed the magnet.

Eric