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Author Topic: Linnard?s hydrogen on demand system without electricity !  (Read 375810 times)

Offline hartiberlin

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Re: Linnard?s hydrogen on demand system without electricity !
« Reply #1230 on: September 25, 2008, 02:44:52 AM »
@ResinRat2 and @triffid:

Sounds nice your latest progresses.

I wonder why Dr.Griffin is trying to produce such miniature units now
with only MilliWatts output and not enhance his
gocart reactor ?

This at least produced huge quantities of hydrogen
and was very impressive !

Too bad he never revealed, how exactly he had done it.

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Re: Linnard?s hydrogen on demand system without electricity !
« Reply #1231 on: September 25, 2008, 01:52:01 PM »
Hi Stefan,

I don't know exactly what Dr. Griffin is developing right now, but I can only speak from my point of view.

I would really like to build an affordable small unit that would charge a battery or bank of batteries. This would be ideal for installing in an electric car and extending its range by allowing it to charge the car's batteries. This would be ideal for long-range trips with electric cars.

Next I would like to see a unit large enough to produce kilowatts of power that can be installed outdoors next to a person's home and run all the electric components in the house. I can envision it at about the size of a central air conditioning unit sitting right next to the house and hooked to the main water line to keep it filled with water. No more power-grid, no more electric bill.

That's what I would like to see, and just these two ideas would change our world completely.

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Re: Linnard?s hydrogen on demand system without electricity !
« Reply #1232 on: September 26, 2008, 10:22:15 PM »
I would guess that Dr Griffin can't reveal everything to protect any new patents hes planning to secure.Just a guess.Triffid

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Re: Linnard?s hydrogen on demand system without electricity !
« Reply #1232 on: September 26, 2008, 10:22:15 PM »
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Re: Linnard?s hydrogen on demand system without electricity !
« Reply #1233 on: September 27, 2008, 03:23:20 PM »
I ran the one-zinc electrode cell with the unit switching regeneration on and off every 5 minutes for the last five days. It was running smoothly, though a small amount of zincate was forming at various spots on the zinc electrode. I think if the regeneration time was shortened up to maybe one minute on and five minutes off it might do the trick. I will try that experiment next after this new one I started running last night.

The new one is the old two zinc electrode set-up, but I wanted to try it with the switching unit. Right now I still have the five minutes on then five minutes off configuration, but this time the unit is switching between the two zinc electrodes. I want to see if this makes any difference for avoiding zincate formation. That means each zinc electrode undergoes 5 minutes of regeneration every 15 minutes. So it will be like five minutes regenerating, then 15 minutes running.
I will keep posting my results.

I will get the larger reactor going after I finish the third experiment and use all my results to decide on a configuration.

Thanks for your interest.

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Re: Linnard?s hydrogen on demand system without electricity !
« Reply #1234 on: September 27, 2008, 09:11:15 PM »
Hey RR,

Sorry I've been offline lately... My job and family are consuming the most of my time at the moment... I did have an idea about the switching however...

For the tungsten I wanted to try a three rod configuration where you have one generation, one regeneration and one neutral...

1) After a five minute interval, the generation rod is switched to the neutral rod making the previous generation rod the neutral.
2) After another five minute interval, The regeneration rod is switched to the new neutral making the previous regeneration rod the new neutral.
3) After another five minute interval we start back at step one.

This could be either done for the Zinc or the Tungsten or both at the same time...

The benefits are that any build up on the tungsten is eaten off during the cycle and none of the rods are switched while "charged" from their previous role... might help reduce the last bit of zincates?

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Re: Linnard?s hydrogen on demand system without electricity !
« Reply #1235 on: September 28, 2008, 02:38:35 AM »
For the tungsten I wanted to try a three rod configuration where you have one generation, one regeneration and one neutral...

The benefits are that any build up on the tungsten is eaten off during the cycle and none of the rods are switched while "charged" from their previous role... might help reduce the last bit of zincates?
Chris (Tacmatricx)

It would give it a chance to spend some time working off the "sticking" material. I know I've seen it drop off at times when the zinc and tungsten/carbide electrodes are just left to run without regeneration going. ...I LIKE IT! It should help to reduce buildup. ...Nice.

Right now I am down to 5 minutes regeneration every half-hour for each zinc electrode. I am hoping to reach a point where the timing can balance the zinc regeneration layer so it stays thin.  Your idea could help to keep a handle on and deal with any small amounts of zincates that might form and are noticed. I will probably use this. Thanks for another great idea!!

Who knows, it may reach a point where the regeneration time may get down to only a minute or two, or even less than a minute every hour or so.

Trial and error Baby...Trial and Error!!

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Re: Linnard?s hydrogen on demand system without electricity !
« Reply #1236 on: September 28, 2008, 09:51:48 PM »
So far I don't feel like I deserve the same praise as Resin Rat 2.So far all I have done is declare my intention to go a different path than he did to try to add to the knowledge that he did (Resin Rat 2) acquire through the sweat of his brow.I did manage to buy my Muriatic acid today (31.45%HCl) for $3.69/gallon in the swimming pool dept of albertson grocery store.I don't intend to do much more until Nov when I am in my new place(I'm selling my house).I am here to try to add to the knowledge here.At least I have my acid now.I will assume that the inert ingredients are really inert and safe for humans since it is used in swimming pools.It should be the only acid I have to buy.Triffid

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Re: Linnard?s hydrogen on demand system without electricity !
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Re: Linnard?s hydrogen on demand system without electricity !
« Reply #1237 on: September 29, 2008, 12:08:45 AM »
Hi Triff,

The muriatic acid should work fine. I am grateful you are trying an acid-reaction system because I think you will get superior gas output when compared to the KOH or NaOH system. If you look at all the high-output systems that Dr. Griffin has demonstrated he always indicates that it is an acid or acid-iron type reaction. I just never experimented with the acid because I wanted to avoid the chlorine smell that will be coming from them.

Good luck

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Re: Linnard?s hydrogen on demand system without electricity !
« Reply #1238 on: October 01, 2008, 11:00:13 PM »
Update:

The timed system that regenerated each of the two zinc electrodes alternately for "5 minutes out of every 30 minutes run time" died after only two days of operation. The zincates built up and covered each zinc rod. This tells me that the "5 minutes on and  5 minutes off" configuration was superior.

I want to mull on this a bit and perhaps try a few shorter interval experiments before I get the larger reactor going. Just out of curiosity I wonder what results a "one minute on and one minute off" configuration would give while alternating the zinc electrodes? This would mean reacting just the barest minimum zinc surface layer then regenerating it right away.

I will have to change a bit of the wiring to test this, but I would like to try that next.

Thanks for your interest everyone

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Re: Linnard?s hydrogen on demand system without electricity !
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Re: Linnard?s hydrogen on demand system without electricity !
« Reply #1239 on: October 02, 2008, 07:25:46 PM »
to resin rat 2 ,I felt that using an acid system as presented in the linnard griffin patent  would be easy for me.I would not have to work with metal electrodes,I would not have to cut them or fit them into a system.Just use iron in solution.Also I have read that an engine can generate 900 degrees C heat.The iron/acid system should be able to start making hydrogen and oxygen  at 65 degrees C.Also since I tried to do some earlier work with hydrogen boosters.I still have about three homemade units in the garage.Unfortunately I am in the process of trying to sell a house.So I'm having to clean up,throw away stuff,etc.This month I will not do much with it at all.Except keep all the materials together in a box or something.Also iron in solution would have a pretty large electrode surface area,hence maybe more hydrogen/oxygen production like you said.Jules Verne did predict that water would one day be used as a fuel to power our machines.I see the linnard griffin patent as being a fullfillment of that prediction.Keep up the good work.Triffid

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Re: Linnard?s hydrogen on demand system without electricity !
« Reply #1240 on: October 08, 2008, 04:45:35 AM »
Hey Guys,

I gave the pulsed voltage idea a try and I'm getting burnt tungsten (regeneration electrode showing zinc/zincate plating), indicating too much current and shedding electrode (zinc electrode erodes in sheets sometimes shorting the cell), indicating too little current at the same time in the following configurations at 0.950V

On   Off (in minutes)
1     1
2     1
1     2
1     3
1     5

Gonna try a few other things to counteract this, will let you know if I have any reproducible success.

Chris

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Re: Linnard?s hydrogen on demand system without electricity !
« Reply #1241 on: October 08, 2008, 04:41:29 PM »
Hi Chris,

Thanks for your info. What I have experienced so far with my setups always gave me the zinc plating on the tungsten when I was above 0.9Volts. I wonder what would happen with your 1 minute on and 5 minutes off at a lower voltage. I'm thinking you regenerate only the thinnest layer of zinc and then burn it off again over the 5 minutes of the reaction that occurs without regeneration. I am thinking that the zincates form more easily the thicker the regeneration layer (or longer regeneration time). So short regeneration times may be best. This is just a personal guess.

I have not modified my setup yet, I have been very busy with personal responsibilities lately and have not found the time.

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« Reply #1242 on: October 08, 2008, 08:01:58 PM »
Hi Chris,

Also, what came to mind was my experience when I removed the zinc electrodes from a cell that had ran for several days and replaced the zinc electrode with a copper electrode. I put a reverse current so that zinc would plate on the copper and I was able to run the hydrogen reaction after that by connecting the tungsten carbide and zinc plated copper electrodes together. The thing I noticed was that the zinc plated very very quickly onto the copper. Within seconds. I would guess less than 10 seconds.

Perhaps the regeneration time needs to be only seconds instead of a minute. Maybe only 10 seconds or so, and then let the hydrogen reaction run without regeneration for 5 or 10 minutes before another regeneration period of only 10 seconds. That way you have a really short regeneration time, keeping the zinc layer very thin, and then burn it off with the hydrogen reaction before the next regeneration. This may be the key, it may even work better with your higher voltage; but I would start with 0.9 volts first.

I think we are getting closer to understanding the key to the regeneration. It will just take a bit more trial and error.

Thanks for all your effort Chris. As soon as I can I will get my unit running with a short regeneration period like i described.

Very soon, I believe we will get there.

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« Reply #1243 on: October 09, 2008, 06:50:46 PM »
I have been cleaning my garage and unearthed two more gallons of muratic acid and some H2SO4 acid too.So maybe in Nov.I can get started on the acid experiments of Dr.linnard's patents.I'm thinking if I just use a steel pot that that supply the needed iron,the iron could be regenerated back on the walls of the pot.I'm also considering putting heat resistant glass
into a steel unit.So I will most likely do both.Triffid

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« Reply #1244 on: October 09, 2008, 08:38:44 PM »
Hi Triff,

Whoohoo, now you have both hydrochloric and sulfuric acids to play with. Too bad you have to wait a while, but it would interest me greatly how the acid reactions rate when compared to the base KOH ones. I'm looking forward to it.

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Hi Chris,

Well, I finished assembling my short timer regeneration unit last night. I should get it operational tonight. This will have short regeneration times of less than a minute, followed by about 4 or 5 minutes of off time. This should be interesting. I am going to use your configuration with one zinc electrode. We'll see how it goes!!  8)

Thanks for your interest everyone.

 

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