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Author Topic: this pyramid should produce electricity. (thomas trawoger's pyramid explaned.)  (Read 104439 times)

Offline nitinnun

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the base is clockwise.

the energy in the peak spins clockwise. so a counter-clockwise peak-antennae, would be good at storing it.


any gauge of wire, is fine.


use a 1000 uF capacitor. or just make one using copper foil, aluminum foil, and trash bag.

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Offline 4Tesla

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Hi all,

I found the GMAX download site:
http://www.turbosquid.com/gmax

Jason

Offline nitinnun

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behold.
the easiest to build, yet high quality pyramid peak to be found in the free world.


the 4 slabs of thin copper foil that i made it from, are each 13 inches long by 8 inches wide.

i folded each slab, over a metal triangle. a triangle that was 52 degree's at the base, and 76 degree's at the peak.

then i hole punched 16 places, and zip tied the 4 triangles together.


odds are that the side flaps will increase the energy effect. rather than decrease it.

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Offline professor

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Hi
I feel that shanti has a valid point.
I do not wish to appear critical as I have an open mind on this subject, but as facinating as it seems to be ,it has to be proven beyond the shadow of a doubt.
Try this same electrical setup and stick it into a square box.If it still gives off Energy
then maybe it really has nothing to do with the shape but rather with the galvanic actions of two dissimilar Metals.
I do not wish to step on someones feet but those that are  convinced could convince those with doubts and and at the same time prove their Concept.
Its easy enough to do for someone that already has a working setup. Just be honest.
By the way you can use Printed Circuit Board Material,you can get that copper clad on one or both sides on a Fibreglass Base,  and you can solder the Joints unless solder interferes with the process
Thanks for letting me comment. I like to believe that it is the shape but...  there is the other issue ......
professor


Well your pyramid reminds me exactly of a device I once made. It delivers energy from the "air":

I came upon this when I discussed with someone, why the Thestatika does have grilles on the wheels.
I then said, that it can't be an influence machine, for in an influence machine you actually try as much as possible to prevent corona discharge. But a grille has many edges and therefore the corona discharges would be drastical.
Then it made click. They want to have the corona discharge! This is the principle how the wheels work. If you have a charged plate (but isolated) or even better an electret. If you now place something metal on top with sharp edges (grille), the potential at the edges will be much higher, and therefore you will have there a corona discharge. But then, you have less charges in the grille electrode, than needed to compensate the electret, and therefore a current will flow in the grille to equalize this. But (un)fortunately this current will also become lost in a corona discharge.
I then made a little prototype to see, if the theory works, and it does. With a grille of about half the size of a hand I could lit up a lamp every few seconds. 
Sure this works only if the air is moving, otherwise the air around the grille gets charged up, and it will work much less efficient. (This is why the wheels on the Thestatika have to turn). I made it stationary, and therefore have to blow a bit air at it every now and then.

I think this pyramid thing is exactly the same!
The top is ideal for a corona discharge, for the electric potential at the top will be much higher than anywhere else in the top piece of metal. And due to the shape of the pyramid a steady flow along the sides of the pyramid from bottom to top will very likely develop, which is needed for continuous operation.
The other metal part at the bottom is needed to "charge" the air prior in the other direction. Well it's not really needed (my device uses the electret for that), but it surely will increase the efficiency the better, the more negative the bottom metal is.
And there I think it's different than you mentioned. I think, you should take a metal which is very negative on the bottom, but very positive on the top, so that you have a maximum difference.
But I think one should take the redox potential of the metals for this (these say actually which metals like electrons more or less, this is how batteries work). So I don't think it has anything to do with diamagnetics, etc. At least not, if it works like my device.
If it works like that, then a gold top and a lithium bottom would be the best you can do. For gold is the most positive metal (+1.69V) and lithium (-3.05 ) the most negative one. For the actual metals you can get cheaply, certainly copper (+0.52V )aluminium (-1.66V) is quite a good choice.
So from the basic principle this is kind like an air battery, but the atmosphere will always try to balance the charges, and therefrom comes the energy. (It's actually kinetic energy from the air, that gets translated into electrical energy)

But as I calculated and also saw from my prototype, you can't get much energy like that. Otherwise you would need huge installations! I think a little Fan motor for the size of pyramid you suggest would just be about in that range that I think is realistic to drive.
This was actually the reason why I didn't spent more time in this direction. Nice FE fro demonstrations purposes, but not really usable in respect to the amount of energy you can get.
BTW: I think this is only used in the Thestatika to generate some HV, but in a way, which doesn't need energy. Then they have a second OU principle in the chars which somehow generates hugh amounts of energy from this HV. I think it's something similar to the ed gray tube...

Offline nitinnun

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doubt based thinking, steals from you.
it does not reward you in any way. it only takes away what you "could" have.

doubt based thinking, will not benefit a persons research efforts.
anymore than a brick tied around their leg, will help them to swim better.


even if i am not able to get my design to produce anything, than my design and my explanation of its physics, are further to the truth than anything before.

but doubt based thinking, does not allow you to see the improvement.
it only shows you the way to failure. not to success.

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Offline professor

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You call it whatever  you wish I call it proof of concept.
To blindly believe is not normal human behavior.
Did you believe there where Weapons of mass destruction?  Many of us poor souls perhaps did so . It was necessary to proof to you and the world that you were misinformed .
Misinformation happens every day in our life.
Nice to believe in something but its not a perfect world.
It takes as much  courage to proof a point as it does do disprove it.
Remarks like yours to expect everyone to blindly believe in something like perhaps you do are unproductive and serve no other purpose but to start an argument that can not be won.
I will therefore no longer respond and let the weight of my comments be determined by each individual free thinker out there.
Professor
doubt based thinking, steals from you.
it does not reward you in any way. it only takes away what you "could" have.

doubt based thinking, will not benefit a persons research efforts.
anymore than a brick tied around their leg, will help them to swim better.


even if i am not able to get my design to produce anything, than my design and my explanation of its physics, are further to the truth than anything before.

but doubt based thinking, does not allow you to see the improvement.
it only shows you the way to failure. not to success.

Offline nitinnun

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i'm not talking about "blindly believing" anything.
i'm volunteering possibility.
possibility being too dry around here for my taste.


it is YOU, you are preaching blind belief.
blind belief, in the religion of DOUBT.
with a second helping of black and white thinking.

the weight to your comments, is how much of an unhelpful drag they are.
a dead horse around my neck. which was never alive to begin with.
a weight that i need not contaminate my intuition with.


by the way. nothing in this universe, can be proven or disproven.
everything is just a possibility.
everything is just an educated guess.
everything is just an over-glorified opinion, dressed in sheep's clothing.

so don't get caught up in proving ANYTHING.
because you might as well be chasing your own tail, while bashing your head against a brick wall.
into infinity and beyond.


You call it whatever  you wish I call it proof of concept.
To blindly believe is not normal human behavior.
Did you believe there where Weapons of mass destruction?  Many of us poor souls perhaps did so . It was necessary to proof to you and the world that you were misinformed .
Misinformation happens every day in our life.
Nice to believe in something but its not a perfect world.
It takes as much  courage to proof a point as it does do disprove it.
Remarks like yours to expect everyone to blindly believe in something like perhaps you do are unproductive and serve no other purpose but to start an argument that can not be won.
I will therefore no longer respond and let the weight of my comments be determined by each individual free thinker out there.
Professor

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Offline nightwynd

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Wow...this thing just turned all philosophical and stuff...

I don't know if this thing will work. I hope it does. If it doesn't, then I'll have a cool looking pyramid in my bedroom. If it does, well - we'll see. In the mean time, I'm still trying to find copper foil or flashing that I can actually afford (budget is insane right now). Keep us posted on progress nitinnun, your build looks interesting. How are you planning on making the base? Did you install the antenna yet?

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Offline nitinnun

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i want to cut dozzens of slabs of aluminum foil.

then i will stack them up like a deck of cards.

then i want to fold the edges, to bind them into 1 sheet.

then i want to zip tie together 2 sheets. and reinforce the middle, with plastic straws.

then i will bend the edges, drill holes, and zip tie. like with the copper peak.

then i will line the top with non-conductive duct tape. and sit the copper peak on top.


and if for some unthinkable reason i fail to get electricity, i will screw around with the pyramid until it DOES produce electricity.

because i can see many possibilities which might lead to success.
unlike SOME people. who think that the failure-monster is hiding under every bed and in every closet.

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Offline nitinnun

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i made another shocking yet basic discovery.


look at the letter "A" on your keyboard.
the letter A, looks like a pyramid.

the line through the middle, electrically sepperates the peak from the base!


the person who invented the letter A thousands of years ago, knew that the pyramids peak must be electrically sepperate from the pyramids base!
they knew how to harvest electricity from a pyramid!

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test

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Offline 4Tesla

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i made another shocking yet basic discovery.


look at the letter "A" on your keyboard.
the letter A, looks like a pyramid.

the line through the middle, electrically sepperates the peak from the base!


the person who invented the letter A thousands of years ago, knew that the pyramids peak must be electrically sepperate from the pyramids base!
they knew how to harvest electricity from a pyramid!



Great Observation!


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I concur.

With all the obvious negative symbolism all around us, what better place to hide the truth than among the weeds.

Regards...


Offline Koen1

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@Nittinun: So, have you actually measured any output yet?
If so, what was the voltage?
Is is only static charge on a cap, or do you actually get some current out?
If it's only static charge, does the cap self-charge faster than a normal cap would?
Or is it really just the two different metals?
Perhaps it's worthwile using plastic as the isolator, as other "dielectrics" like
paper can give misleading readings? (Old "dry" batteries often used paper
as "dry electrolyte" since even a small amount of moisture in it, like that
from the air, can produce galvanic reactions.)

Oh, and why do you feel the need to post obvious facts, like the fact that
the pyramid has a strong and near holy connotation for Illuminati, or the
obvious fact that the letter A is a variation on the triangle?
I quite like your approach to the pyramid although it is not very new,
but I don't think you should throw in so much Illuminati nonsense and such. ;)

Offline nitinnun

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it is "obvious", that the pyramid on the back of the one dollar bill, has a peak which is electrically sepperated from its base?
and that the all seeing eye inside that peak, might as well be a peak antennae, which is harvesting positively charged magnetism?

it is obvious that THE LETTER "A" ITSELF, has a peak which is electrically sepperated from its base?

and that the electrical sepperation in both of these, is a huge missing link in the pyramid riddle?


the above is obvious, even though i see next to nobody electrically sepperating their peaks from their bases?

let alone make their peaks copper, their bases aluminum, and sepperating peak from base with insulation?

or saying anything what so ever about the above?



either you have a very screwed up concept of what "obvious" is,

or you are passive aggressively trying to argue with me, despite having no ground to stand on, or anything to contribute,

or you are typing, without having any idea what you are saying.

possibly all 3.

 

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