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Author Topic: this pyramid should produce electricity. (thomas trawoger's pyramid explaned.)  (Read 105139 times)

Offline nitinnun

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lightning is a big release of electrostatic energy.

but there are small amounts of electrostatic energy, in EVERY millimeter of the atmosphere!

the pyramid can collect this small amount, and the atmosphere sends in more energy to replace it.


the earth itself is a giant generator of magnetism. it does this just from spinning in space.

but even if the earth did not produce energy, there would still be energy everywhere in the universe. energy to harvest!

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Offline wile_coyote7

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I've been thinking of replicating this pyramid. It's got me very excited if it actually pans out to really work. My only concern is the necessary North orientation of the pyramid in order for it work. I had an idea (mostly from Orgone blasters) that I could try to build it as a cone shape with the same basic dimensions so that no matter where/how you orient the device, it would be aligned and functioning.

Any thoughts on trying the cone shape instead of a pyramid?

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i read that the cone shape works. since part of it is always facing magnetic north.
but you would have to try both, to know what is what.


even if my design is incomplete for some reason, than it is still leaps and bounds closer to the truth, than what was known before.

the illuminati seem to agree with my design. they say so on the back of the one dollar bill!

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i've already given you more useful information than thomas "cluster-mid" thawoger did.
thomas thrawoger just gave you a long winded video of him talking and smoking. which didn't even show much......

Hey don't knock Thomas too much, he gave us loads!!!!

There are a few of us now that have a bloody huge metal pyramid with gypsum sides cluttering up our workshops and taking up too much room grrrrrrrrr  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I have seriously got to either take it apart or get some Stainless steel sides on it and use as a ornament for the garden!!


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Nitinnun

 Do you mind if I post my own take on the Pyramid here they do in many ways coincide with your own and are the result of many years of study of the ancient papyrus and what was written by various cultures  ..

It will be a bit large and have several illustrations from the papyrus to get the concept across ..but I think you will find it interesting ..

If you prefer I can post it separately but I think it will add greatly to your understanding of just how grand and simple and advanced the concept was ..and just for the record I'm not Illuminati  ;D but this should piss them off and some very high masons too ..

I think you and the people here are the one I've been waiting for to flesh this out in scientific terms ..

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after thought
On second thought it is off topic as it does not apply to this device maybe I should post it seperately and get everyones input that way ..

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« Last Edit: July 19, 2008, 02:28:41 AM by Rocr »

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It will be a bit large and have several illustrations from the papyrus to get the concept across ..but I think you will find it interesting ..

I think you and the people here are the one I've been waiting for to flesh this out in scientific terms ..


Rocr

there is a separate thread for general pyramid discussions

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4045.0.html

I for one, look forward to your information. I am sure there are many others too.

jeanna

Offline nitinnun

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since the peak of thomas trawogers pyramid was both steel AND electrically connected to the negatively charged base, i'm surprised that he could even get enough electricity to power a computer fan from it.

trawoger gave you lots of stuff alright.
lots of useless stuff. that didn't teach you what you needed to know, to succeed.


don't use that steel pyramid as a lawn ornament. it will rust like mad in the rain!
and contaminate the soil with iron oxide!

his very pyramid design will poison the earth......

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Offline nitinnun

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now that you mention the pyramids from old civilizations.....

some of those pyramids, didn't have peaks on top. instead, they had flat platforms.

the reason why they had flat platforms, is because they placed gold/copper peaks on those platforms! and walked into the peak through a door in it!
(they wanted to be able to walk into the peak, where all the power in tehir pyramid was. so they built that way.)

more proof that a large mass of positively charged metal, sat on the peak!
and that it was never grounded!

Offline jeanna

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I have made many pyramids using poster paper. It should work for this.

I will cover the top with copper and maybe nothing at first on the bottom just the cap inside.

In fact when TT first posted his patent, I cut a hole in the side of one of my retired pyramids and put a capacitor in from the peak to the base. - no battery recharge and no spark.  I didn't, however use the copper on the peak. I think this worth a go.

2 things.

1- I put "tabs" on the sides of the triangles. This makes it much easier to tape the edge nicely without gaps etc.

2- nitinnun, placing a pyramid over you when you are lying down is a very good way to get rid of a malady. Especially a headache or a bellyache. just put the hurting part under the middle of the pyramid.  Line it up to the north. You will begin to feel warm and the pain will dissapate in 10 minutes , usually less.  I used to use this a lot. If I had a bad headache I would usually fall asleep, I think from relief.  Just poster paper, though. I don't think the metal version would be helpful to your body, but I know for sure the paper kind works really well.

thank you,

jeanna

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* remember that the pyramid may have to be charged up, to start the reaction.
just like you need to make a snowball and push it down a hill, to get an ice-boulder rolling.

* a one-material pyramid not only has the same magnetic capacity at peak and base. but the peak and base are also connected.

a one-material pyramids positive and negative polarities, cannot get far enough away from each other!
because the one-material cannot have a strong maximum charge, in both positive and negative energy!

the copper must have the strong positive capacity, and the aluminum must have the strong negative capacity.

and what little distance its polarities can sepperate themselves, is made even shorter. because then the charges discharge, when they meet in the electrically connected middle!


* if you electrically sepperated the peak and base of a mere paper pyramid, than that alone would increase the capacity of the pyramids magnetic field, by several times.
because then the paper peak and paper base could charge up higher, before discharging in the middle.

my glue cells respect this energy requirement. because the glue which connects the copepr and steel, is electrically non-conductive.
so the copper can positively charge up, without the steel discharging it.
and the steel can negatively charge up, without the copper discharging it.


* the copper peak greatly increases the positive capacity of the peak.
the aluminum base greatly increases the negative capacity of the base.


* but on top of that, i think the copper and aluminum together, form a diode effect. a diode effect whcih is IN ADDITION to the diode effect of the pyramid shape!

because electricity flows easier from copper to aluminum. while in a 100% paper pyramid, the energy can flow anywhere.


like i said before. even if there is something missing from my pyramid design, than my design is still much closer to success, than what was known before.

without supporting some of the basic energy physics which my design supports, success is extremely minimal.
just as you need certain materials and a certain design, to have any chance of building a car engine. or a nuclear reactor.

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Does anyone have a list of metals and there place in order of positive and negative energy?
Instead of copper for the peak, what would be more positive, and maybe more easy to get?
Were does stainless steel or chrome plated steel fit into this. Are they positive or negative?
I can get lots of aluminum but I want to know what alternative I can use for the copper.

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Does anyone have a list of metals and there place in order of positive and negative energy?
Instead of copper for the peak, what would be more positive, and maybe more easy to get?
Were does stainless steel or chrome plated steel fit into this. Are they positive or negative?
I can get lots of aluminum but I want to know what alternative I can use for the copper.


Silver: best

Copper: 9% less conductive than silver

Gold: 24% less conductive than copper (but doesn't tarnish or corrode)

Brass is somewhere here.

Best conductive metals ^^
« Last Edit: July 19, 2008, 08:51:59 AM by therealrasta »

Offline nitinnun

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"diamagnetic" elements are "positive".
they have a larger ability to store positive energy, in the peak.

"paramagnetic" elements are "negative".
they have a larger ability to store negative energy, in the base.

you can see which elements are diamagnetic and paramagnetic, on wikipedia.

for example, wikipedia says that bismuth is the most diamagnetic of all elements. so bismuth would work best in the peak.

a heavy element like tungsten or lead, is likely the most paramagnetic. so tungsten or lead, would likely work best in the base.


diamagnetic elements are repelled by magnetic fields. because their protons despise magnetic fields.
paramagnetic elements are attracted by magnetic fields. because their electrons love magnetic fields.

mind you that paramagnetic is different from magnetic. because magnetic elements are magnetic all the time. while paramagnetic elements are only magnetic, if you stick them in a magnetic field.


copper and bismuth are "positive/diamagnetic", because they have one more proton than electron.
while the iron in steel is "negative/paramagnetic", because it has one more electron than proton.

copper and bismuth both have one more proton than electron.
but bismuth is a heavier element than copper. because it has more protons and electrons than copper.

that is why bismuth has a higher "positive capacity" than copper. because bismuth has more protons to hold energy in.


a 20 foot by 8 inch roll of copper foil is only $28. copper foil is very easy to work into whatever shape you need.

a pound of bismuth is $28. (a pound of bismuth has the volume of 1.5 golf balls.)
bismuth is too soft, too heavy, harder to work, and and more expensive than copper.

the up side of bismuth, is that it melts at 500F. so you can stick it in a mold, and melt it in your kitchen oven.

Offline amigo

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nitinnun,

very interesting writing about the pyramids. I'm trying to understand whether the size is an issue and you mentioned that a side should be no smaller than 2ft. Is that an arbitrary number or is it something you have come up through pondering on the subject?

Also, I find the description of the antennas from the first post rather vague. I can't discern exactly where they should be, outside or inside the pyramid itself, pointing up or to the side?

It appears you don't like putting practical efforts into things, but would you mind drawing another sketch of the final pyramid including the plates with proper spacings and the antenna configurations?

Thanks.

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1:
a pyramid can be of any size, and work.
but 2 feet wide at the base, is to be certain.
certain that it is big enough, to produce sustainable electricity.

if it is 2 feet wide at the base, yet can't even power an LED light, than it must have been built wrong.
not "my 1 inch wide pyramid doesn't work, because it is a hoax!".


2:
the antenna's are sitting inside the magnetic field which is being harvest.
 
so odds are that they will work, so long as the peak-antenna is close to the positive pole of the pyramids magnetic field (the general peak area).
and the base-antenna is close to the negative pole of the magnetic field (the general base area).

antenna "positioning" shouldn't matter.if it does matter, than monkey around with them until they work.

you will have to experiment with this to be sure.


3:
construct the pyramid, so that each side is positioned 45 degree's from the pyramids floor.
(4 triangles which are 52 degree's at their base-angles, will do this.)

this is the angle of the great pyramids in Egypt. and it is said to produce the most energy.

at this angle, the peaks charge is equally as strong as the bases charge.
so that one charge is not weaker, being a bottleneck for the current.

because the current is the result of the positive charge, flowing towards the negative charge.
so both must be equal in strength.

4:
space the copper and aluminum as close together as possible. to prevent magnetic current from escaping.
this is not required, to make it work. just to optimize output.
(i only drew that black non-conductive gap so large, to make the concept of electrical sepperation clear. so that even gilligan could recognize it.)


5:
make half of the surface copper, and the other half aluminum.

(even a 10%/90% ratio would "work". just not as well.)
(if copper and aluminum are equal, than you will likely get maximum magnetic current.)

the pyramid allows a vast amount of forgiveness.
construct the copper and aluminum plates, however you find best/cheapest.



my style, is to understand something in my mind as much as possible, before doing anything physically with it.
this forces me to focus on "why" things work, and less on "how" things work. which is more philosophy than science.

this leaves me with no physical proof most of the time.
yet it also allows me to find answers/possibilities, which are unfindable to skeptics and doubt-based scientists.

the things i have shown in this thread, were revealed through generalities, educated guessing, intuition, and a tolerance for inaccuracy.
but if you can feel that there is potential in them, than you are feeling exactly what i followed, to find them. their raw potential.

 

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