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Author Topic: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL ENGINE DISCOVERED AND PATENTED  (Read 40918 times)

Offline gotoluc

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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL ENGINE DISCOVERED AND PATENTED
« Reply #30 on: August 17, 2008, 11:46:32 PM »
@everyone,

Sorry to say but the light ball Anomaly that I found ended up being an artifact made by the video camera I used.

I removed the 2 Youtube videos relating to the study of the effect and I also edited out information and or deleted posts referring to this effect since I do not want future readers to read information just to find in the end that it is not correct.

Sorry for the camera glitch.

Luc
« Last Edit: August 18, 2008, 05:10:16 AM by gotoluc »

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Offline Johan_1955

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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL ENGINE DISCOVERED AND PATENTED
« Reply #31 on: October 26, 2008, 06:09:33 PM »
Hello Great People,

Maybe "Tishatang" is even more close than I/we want to see, imagen a cilinder not with a positive pressure but with a far negative pressure, this after being flushed with 5 ideal inert gasses, and they also left a few drops off water behind.

In a 2 cilinder of 400 hp, we will need far more than only a pos.-pressure explosion, also the Negative Back-Force (EMF)!! We are working with this and now forgetting it? To make this power (the mentioned 400 hp) possible in just and only a 2 cilinder, we need also to contract with force: So dream we have an engine not filled with pressure, like above: a 2 cilinder engine, pistons 180 degrees off-set, not filled with a positive pressure but with a negative pressure/vacuum, this after being flushed with 5 ideal inert gasses, and they also left a few drops off water behind.

Ideal for igniting, far less spark or power needed to maintain the plasma going for the than pressure down-stroke, heat done with DC dan contracting with AC, bringing force-full back->up the vacuum back and coolness in the cilinder.

Maybe a try, just a container filled/flushed with a bit Argon of the TIG, sucking side off compressor and than well you know.

Johan

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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL ENGINE DISCOVERED AND PATENTED
« Reply #32 on: October 27, 2008, 04:50:56 AM »
Hmmm, having just watched the Sabori video, it would appear that he never actually got the thing to run - in the first half there are performance specs quoted, implying that they had a 'runner', but in the second half, and using the same video footage, it is stated that the 2-cylinder engine was a non-runner (development model) and what you actually see 'running' is just the "bottom half" to demonstrate it worked - which is probably being powered by a motor - that's misleading!  At least that's my reading of it!  Rohner insists as much on this website.  A wasted 200meg download, plus 60min watch-time imo...

It's also almost 15 years since the video...

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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL ENGINE DISCOVERED AND PATENTED
« Reply #32 on: October 27, 2008, 04:50:56 AM »
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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL ENGINE DISCOVERED AND PATENTED
« Reply #33 on: September 24, 2009, 01:43:29 PM »
Hi All

Update here on Rohner noble gas motor:

http://pesn.com/2009/09/21/9501575_Rohner_noble_gas_motor_update/

They have gotten further than I thought they would.  I wish them well and all described is true.

tishatang

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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL ENGINE DISCOVERED AND PATENTED
« Reply #34 on: September 24, 2009, 02:53:21 PM »
Interesting, isn't it?
Does anyone see how Tommey Reed's ratchet engine design would instantly improve efficiency of these sketced engine by a factor of 3 or 4? Same setup, but ditching the crank shaft.
How would such efficiency boost, if viable, effect its inherent operation?

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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL ENGINE DISCOVERED AND PATENTED
« Reply #34 on: September 24, 2009, 02:53:21 PM »
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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL ENGINE DISCOVERED AND PATENTED
« Reply #35 on: November 26, 2009, 08:56:43 AM »

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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL ENGINE DISCOVERED AND PATENTED
« Reply #36 on: December 09, 2009, 01:18:13 PM »
plasma igniter patent 4122816 NASA see the plasma toroid

http://www.google.com/patents?id=szA2AAAAEBAJ&printsec=abstract&zoom=4#v=onepage&q=&f=false

.... Ken Shoulder EVO electrons cluster


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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL ENGINE DISCOVERED AND PATENTED
« Reply #36 on: December 09, 2009, 01:18:13 PM »
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Offline tishatang

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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL ENGINE DISCOVERED AND PATENTED
« Reply #37 on: December 30, 2009, 09:48:55 AM »
Hi All,
I think this was posted once in another thread with no response.  I think it got lost in the noise?  Could things really be this easy with a microwave hack on a lawn mower engine.  I post again showing the source from Gene Mallove:


"Someone sent me a hard copy of this and I transcribed it. May make for some
fun experiments connected with cavitation, steam, and O-U.

Gene Mallove
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From: Pat_Pelletier@mindlink.bc.ca (Pat Pelletier)
Newsgroups: sci.engr
Subject: PUBLIC DISCLOSURE - NEW INVENTION
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 95 10:54:05 - 0700
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada


I am posting the following for a friend who does NOT have access to Internet.
Comments welcomed.

NOTICE

The prupose of this notice is to place into public domain something which I
invented so that it may be patented and in order to prevent it's use from
being restricted in any way.

The device is an engine in which small quantitites of water are turned into
steam by the use of a magnetron (as found in microwave ovens).

Interested parties may wish to try this test: Place a few drops of water into
a clear plastic 35mm film roll holder and put the cap on the film roll holder.
 Place in a microwave oven and turn the oven on. The 'pop' is the result of
the water turning suddenly into steam.

The engine I have invented is far more efficient than any other steam engine
because the efficiency of the magnetron in turning water into steam.  In fact,
the water droplet 'explodes' very much like air/gasoline explodes in a
conventional internal combustion engine.

This engine was first tested in 1992.  I am however unable to invest the
required capital to produce a more sophisticated model and therefore unable to
patent it.  Even though I may not be able to profit from this technology, it
is too good to be kept to myself and I would like to spread it around so that
others may be able to use it.

The following is an outline of how to construct the device and a few cautions:

PARTS NEEDED:

1. Magnetron from medium power microwave oven.

2. Small 4-stroke single cylinder lawn mover engine or similar engine with
'old style' points and ignition system.

3.  Automotive alternator with built-in rectifier and regulator, also a 12
volt auto battery.

4. "Trigger" mechanism from an aircraft "strobe" landing light.

INSTRUCTIONS:

1. The magnetron fits into the spark plug hole.

2. The distributor points are modified so that the contact is closed when the
piston is at the top dead center and this contact is used to activate the
aircraft strobe mechanism.

3.  The high voltage from the strobe is connected to directly fire the
magnetron which in turn produces steam which moves the piston.

4. The engine turns the alternator which keeps the battery charged, which
supplies the electrical power for the magnetron.

CAUTION AND TIPS:

WARNING!!! DANGER!!!!

1. Be careful around the magnetron. KEEP IT SHIELDED WITH METAL.  IT CAN CAUSE
SEVERE BURNS THAT MAY NOT BE READILY VISIBLE WHEN THEY FIRST OCCUR.

2. The 'strobe' trigger delivers a very high voltage which can jump to ground.
WEAR RUBBER SOLED SHOES AND INSULATE WELL.

3. Be sure to modify the distributor points so they close at the top dead
center. Timing advance depends on the power of the magnetron used and the
amount of water. Try different carb jet sizes -- drill out if needed.

4. Due to variables, don't expect high engine speeds without a little
experimentation due to variables.

5. Start with a fully charged battery or your alternator won't work.

6. The energy produced is in excess of the power required to run the
alternator but until you get the RPM up, and the parts wrking in harmony, it
may be best to use a battery charger instead of an alternator.

7. An easy way to measure net power output after you have the alternator on
line is to run a few 12 volt lights from the battery.  You will see that the
battery stays charged even with the lights on and the motor keeps on going.

8.  Although I have not tried it, the idea of vaporizing water with microwaves
should also work well in a converted turbine.

SPREAD THIS TECHNOLOGY - IT IS FREE!!

PRINT THIS BEFORE IT IS DELETED FROM THE NET!

MY CODE FOR FUTURE IDENTIFICATION IS PANGURBAN"


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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL ENGINE DISCOVERED AND PATENTED
« Reply #38 on: June 08, 2011, 08:35:20 PM »
The Plasmic patent application is posted here http://www.rohnermachine.com/pagedocuments.html
We believe Dr. John Rohner to be a complete scam. The actual builder of all engines you find operating any where on the web were constructed by Bob & Tom Rohner.
Be sure to watch the progress and historical videos while you are there.

One more thing, Papp's earlier patent #3670494 mentions a different fuel mixture involving water so you fellows may be hitting on all four.

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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL ENGINE DISCOVERED AND PATENTED
« Reply #38 on: June 08, 2011, 08:35:20 PM »
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