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Author Topic: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL ENGINE DISCOVERED AND PATENTED  (Read 41181 times)

Offline nightlife

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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL ENGINE DISCOVERED AND PATENTED
« Reply #15 on: July 20, 2008, 07:08:13 PM »
 tishatang, I believe a lot of information has been left out and that would be due to suppression.

pese, thank you for that collection of videos and articles.


 The video that tishatang provided, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlMELbK8zDQ proves how water can be reused and that shows us how papps design can work.

 When the water is ignited, it will create a vapor that expands and then immediately compress back into water creating a suction.

 We are on the right track and we need to start testing this effect in a cylinder to see what the results would be.

 
 

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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL ENGINE DISCOVERED AND PATENTED
« Reply #16 on: July 20, 2008, 09:52:12 PM »
Thanks pese for posting all these video links.

Jimmy Sabori's system was the video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2850891179207690407  I was talking about that I had saved on one of my hard drives but I could not find it.

Luc

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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL ENGINE DISCOVERED AND PATENTED
« Reply #17 on: July 20, 2008, 11:18:45 PM »
: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2850891179207690407
What it is? Rave?  Huge lot of surplus stuff !!! Did you see old small oscilloscope tube "installed" near one of wonder-machines, he named it otherwise but ok, does not matter ;-) ... many chemistry things,  baby in red jacket. Why these grand coils on the old engines and why this tattle about 400 hp ? ... Why nobody can help? No Doctor in radius of 400 miles?
Why every time when "open doors in secret laboratory" they use broken toy camera and no lightings when showing breakthrough engines and else novel things? None in full city who can make correct video?
Or it was some kind of joke I hope,
Some black humor,
Im sorry,
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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL ENGINE DISCOVERED AND PATENTED
« Reply #17 on: July 20, 2008, 11:18:45 PM »
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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL ENGINE DISCOVERED AND PATENTED
« Reply #18 on: July 21, 2008, 12:01:32 AM »
Thanks pese for posting all these video links.

Jimmy Sabori's system was the video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2850891179207690407  I was talking about that I had saved on one of my hard drives but I could not find it.

Luc
The best that i seen 4 years ago, is not mor in WEB , also not in archive.org. possibly some destructive groups was
interested to delete the best shown description from publicity
GP

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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL ENGINE DISCOVERED AND PATENTED
« Reply #19 on: July 21, 2008, 12:06:03 AM »
The six noble gases that occur naturally are helium (He), neon (Ne), argon (Ar), krypton (Kr), xenon (Xe), and the radioactive radon (Rn). So far, three atoms of the next member of the group, ununoctium (Uuo) have been synthesized in a supercollider, but very little is known of its properties due to tiny amount produced and its short half-life.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noble_gas

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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL ENGINE DISCOVERED AND PATENTED
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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL ENGINE DISCOVERED AND PATENTED
« Reply #20 on: July 21, 2008, 12:13:58 AM »
tishatang

Using  a  compressor   sounds like  a great idea .

It  could make  a reasonable sterling   if the   heads  were  replaced with  a manifold between them .


It  could also be   used to  test   the  other ideas here  .........    the  flywheel could be  drilled   and a VERY  small  neo magnet  put in each   side ........     hall  affect switches  could then  be used  for  timing.


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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL ENGINE DISCOVERED AND PATENTED
« Reply #21 on: July 21, 2008, 12:25:40 AM »
nightlive
Papp have let us know 3 from this gase tat he have used.

all

to search over this invention . Britt and rober gordon have also worked over that
noble gas motors.
over this , i find very easy to following
gas motor  "ammonia"

possibly that ist the source of all following inventions:

see here:
http://www.dself.dsl.pipex.com/MUSEUM/POWER/ammonia/ammonia.htm
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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL ENGINE DISCOVERED AND PATENTED
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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL ENGINE DISCOVERED AND PATENTED
« Reply #22 on: August 08, 2008, 09:32:55 AM »
@Pese and All

I have found the Britt Noble Gas engine patent # 3,977,191

Go here and type in 3977191 :

http://www.pat2pdf.org/pat2pdf/foo.pl

Notice in the patent we also have high voltage and low voltage coming together with a dedicated ground electrode in the chamber.  This patent talks about the photon release and self concentration of the effect with mirrored combustion walls.  This patent was granted in Aug 1976.  Britt complained the patent office dragged its feet allowing a corporate entity to file earlier.  Was this corporate entity Papp or some unknown mega corp like GE?  Papp was working on his engine in the late 1960's.  His patent granted in 1972 with a working model.  It is unknown if the Britt patent had a working model.  Because it is so unusual, you think there would have to be a working model.  Or, perhaps Papp laid the groundwork for a Noble Gas engine?

Their seems to be some intrigue with this Britt story and patent.  Robert Gordon Britt is not a common name.  If you do a search, his name comes up for counterfeiting $50 bills and an appeal for conviction in Florida and an appeal for double jeopardy  in North Carolina.  This has to be the same man as the patent shows him to be in North Carolina.  One or two conclusions might be reached.  One,the guy is a crook, heard about Papp and tried to get something patented ahead of him?  Or two, he is a genius and had something and was framed by the feds putting counterfeit plates in his possession?  His device is much simpler than the Papp device.  Maybe someone can research Britt.  I have limited access behind the China firewall.

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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL ENGINE DISCOVERED AND PATENTED
« Reply #23 on: August 08, 2008, 05:56:57 PM »
Thanks :D Tishatang for this new information.

Luc

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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL ENGINE DISCOVERED AND PATENTED
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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL ENGINE DISCOVERED AND PATENTED
« Reply #24 on: August 15, 2008, 10:10:10 PM »
@everyone, I did manage to find the tests I was talking about of Jimmy Sabori's Papp Engine on his video. They are at the 49 minute mark. The video is here: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2850891179207690407

I we can find the effect with what we are doing.

I keep looking for the green light ball effect since I found my circuit.

Notice in the pictures below that the Green light anomaly happens away from the spark event.

Luc

« Last Edit: August 18, 2008, 03:49:54 AM by gotoluc »

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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL ENGINE DISCOVERED AND PATENTED
« Reply #25 on: August 16, 2008, 04:05:16 AM »
@Luc
Thanks for the hard work and observations.  Am I correct in that you and Sabori did not see the green ball directly, but only after looking at the video frames?  Evidently it is too fast for the eye to capture?  My feeling is that the external green ball is a nuclear event.  Maybe some atomic particle is driven out of the cylinder at high speed and collides with another particle in the near external field?  To me, it seems the piston goes down regardless of the external green ball?
I would think it would be better to contain the green ball within the cylinder chamber.  The metal of the engine would act as a shield against radiation.  Would the detector you are going to build reveal nuclear radiation?

Maybe this is the reason for the large coils around the cylinders, to contain and direct the energy in the direction of the piston travel?  The coils are energized only during the firing stroke in the Papp patents.  As you develop your test setup, you may at some point energize a coil around the cylinder and see what happens.  Also, there is a superimposed high frequency in the megahertz range.  The coils and high frequency are mentioned in the later engine Papp patent.  I do not have the ability to print out the patents where I am, so I can not study them in detail.

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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL ENGINE DISCOVERED AND PATENTED
« Reply #26 on: August 16, 2008, 10:05:52 AM »
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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL ENGINE DISCOVERED AND PATENTED
« Reply #27 on: August 16, 2008, 07:37:36 PM »
@Luc
Thanks for the hard work and observations.  Am I correct in that you and Sabori did not see the green ball directly, but only after looking at the video frames?  Evidently it is too fast for the eye to capture?  My feeling is that the external green ball is a nuclear event.  Maybe some atomic particle is driven out of the cylinder at high speed and collides with another particle in the near external field?  To me, it seems the piston goes down regardless of the external green ball?
I would think it would be better to contain the green ball within the cylinder chamber.  The metal of the engine would act as a shield against radiation.  Would the detector you are going to build reveal nuclear radiation?

Maybe this is the reason for the large coils around the cylinders, to contain and direct the energy in the direction of the piston travel?  The coils are energized only during the firing stroke in the Papp patents.  As you develop your test setup, you may at some point energize a coil around the cylinder and see what happens.  Also, there is a superimposed high frequency in the megahertz range.  The coils and high frequency are mentioned in the later engine Papp patent.  I do not have the ability to print out the patents where I am, so I can not study them in detail.

Tishatang

Hi tishatang, sorry for the late reply. Yes, they say that they don't see the green light ball when looking at the spark and can only be seen on the video. It would seem it is too fast for the eye and mind to capture.

What I think is going on, is the spark event creates a disturbance in our time continuum which opens a hole and that is what we see as the green light. So I don't know if we can contain that green light event since it may not be from this dimension. I think the coil around the cylinder is to create a strong magnetic field within the cylinder which has an effect on the gases. I will test this later with my sealed clear Lexan piston and cylinder test engine.

For now I am back working on my lawn mower engine with gasoline fumes and water vapor tests. I think we can creat the GEET effect right in the combustion chamber which would be an easy mod for regular car engines to cut down fuel use by 50% or more. Once I'm done testing and sharing that I will resume the build on the sealed clear Lexan engine.

Luc
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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL ENGINE DISCOVERED AND PATENTED
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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL ENGINE DISCOVERED AND PATENTED
« Reply #29 on: August 17, 2008, 12:19:04 AM »
Green Light ...Maybe its aperance of the x-rays
all the best
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