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Author Topic: Gravity Motor Patent 7/10/08  (Read 114262 times)

Offline gyulasun

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Re: Gravity Motor Patent 7/10/08
« Reply #15 on: July 12, 2008, 12:01:12 AM »
I uploaded Gravity Motor.zip under the Subject "Gravity Motor Patent"

Hope it works.

Hey, the wife and kids are home so I might not be able to respond quickly from now on.

Thanks,

M

OK, it works now,  thanks. 

Are you aware of someone's built it successfully already?

Gyula

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Re: Gravity Motor Patent 7/10/08
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Offline mondrasek

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Re: Gravity Motor Patent 7/10/08
« Reply #16 on: July 12, 2008, 12:05:13 AM »
I built enought to prove it works to myself (mech engineer with 20+ year experience, 15+ in robotics).  I don't have the tools to test or optimize the design and playing with stuff in my garage would just delay getting it into the hands of those who have the tools.  Someone with software that models kinimatics and magnetics would model and prove this in less that 4 hours I'd guess.  Hopefully it will be done by the end of the weekend.

M.

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Re: Gravity Motor Patent 7/10/08
« Reply #17 on: July 12, 2008, 12:23:37 AM »
Ehm...could you give a link to the people that don't know where the hell this subject is.

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Re: Gravity Motor Patent 7/10/08
« Reply #17 on: July 12, 2008, 12:23:37 AM »
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Re: Gravity Motor Patent 7/10/08
« Reply #18 on: July 12, 2008, 12:26:04 AM »
Someone help.  I don't even know where it's posted. 

Sorry for not being an expert in this forum stuff.  I normally just troll and (rarely) post, not upload.

M.

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Re: Gravity Motor Patent 7/10/08
« Reply #19 on: July 12, 2008, 12:26:05 AM »
BROLI its at the top of the page click on his paper clip

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Re: Gravity Motor Patent 7/10/08
« Reply #20 on: July 12, 2008, 12:26:51 AM »
Ehm...could you give a link to the people that don't know where the hell this subject is.

I think this will take you there:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl

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Re: Gravity Motor Patent 7/10/08
« Reply #21 on: July 12, 2008, 12:30:32 AM »
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Offline broli

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Re: Gravity Motor Patent 7/10/08
« Reply #22 on: July 12, 2008, 12:39:15 AM »
I hope this patent is a joke. Not that it's a bad idea but it's probably the most general gravity+magnet wheel. It seems to me you just made the patent up just to be on the safe side if someone decides to have a go. You greedy little critter.

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Re: Gravity Motor Patent 7/10/08
« Reply #23 on: July 12, 2008, 01:02:12 AM »
Greedy? 

I have not slept well since I concepted this on July 2.  I have been sick to my stomach ever since. 

A patent is the best way to get serious attention and I forced it through (with my own money) in just 9 days.

Why?  Every water pump that uses this device will be allowed without license fees.  So will any other humanitarian device.

For the rest of the world:  Free electricity, hydrogen, locomotion.  Imagine de-salinization plants on the coast running with no power requirements, pumping fresh water anywhere inland with no more cost than to build and maintain.

There goes you electric, heating and cooling costs.

Also, why stay with AC when every structure can have it's own DC Gravity Motor/Generator supply?  That eliminates fire and elctrocution hazards.

The end of greenhouse warming?  Anyone?

The world will change immensly in the next few years.

And this device works not only on Earth, but any heavenly body.

It is part of the puzzle to exploring the Universe.  (But not the way to get there)

Yes I want some money.  I want to take my wife and kids on vacation.

So do you.

M.

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« Reply #23 on: July 12, 2008, 01:02:12 AM »
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Re: Gravity Motor Patent 7/10/08
« Reply #24 on: July 12, 2008, 02:20:20 AM »
mondrasek

 Welcome to the forum and thanks for being open like you are. But being someone who has built several wheels see a typical flaw in your design. Each time each magnet going over the bottom magnet it will hit what a lot of the people here call a wall and each time it hits it will slow it down till stop. You also have to look at what kind of power you can get out of it if you can overcome the wall. A toy? permanent magnets would have to bee absolutely huge to be of any use for power and what I also see that you would not be able to take it to outer space and have it run for its only possible movement is still gravity. Only a straight magnet motor will be of use by its self if one can be done.

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Re: Gravity Motor Patent 7/10/08
« Reply #25 on: July 12, 2008, 02:23:10 AM »
Won't work in outerspace.  I agree.  It's a gravity motor, right? 

You can make the wheel as big as required to add enough mass switches to overcome the stator "wall".

Also, when you replace the stator magnets with electro magnets that only fire in the optimum possition you eliminate the "wall".

Thanks,

M.

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Re: Gravity Motor Patent 7/10/08
« Reply #26 on: July 12, 2008, 02:33:05 AM »
mondrasek

 I myself work with mostly mechanical gravity wheels, I am also helping another person known here as itsblockdog with another gravity/magnet motor. I would have been done with it but I have been very sick of late, and I still have other doctor appointments. So it may take me another week to finish what I have in the works.

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Re: Gravity Motor Patent 7/10/08
« Reply #27 on: July 12, 2008, 03:38:28 AM »
@ mondrasek

Looks cool mate. Good work!

I think the greater the weight you can shift with this relative to the weight of the wheel itself, the greater the torque will be. I could be wrong there but I imagine a wheel shifting 30kgs would outperform one shifting 3kgs.

In figure 8 it appears that the Stator magnet at 12 o'clock moves with the wheel. There is not indication of separation. I assume this is something you missed in your rush. This is something you might want to clear up with the patent office.

If you do have a stationary section around the axle which can hold magnets, ala Archer Quinn's first prototype with the stationary clock face, you would be able to have an inner and outer stator magnet at 12 o'clock and 6 o'clock so that you had a "push-pull" action on the magnets inside the guide tubes. Then you could potentially use two magnets either side of a weight within the guide tube.

I've just illustrated this. I hope I'm not repeating anyone. I started typing this then realised I should really illustrate what I am saying for absolute clarity.

Sorry if I missed any important details. Let me know if I have and I will add them.

Cheers,

shakman

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Re: Gravity Motor Patent 7/10/08
« Reply #28 on: July 12, 2008, 03:50:40 AM »
Look to be a good design. I only skimmed through your patent.. What are the sideways v shape magnet blockers made from  and of course they move when the magnets hit them.But how do they move exactly?



edit -- In a large scale running at low RPM. I can see this providing a hell of a lot of torque.

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Re: Gravity Motor Patent 7/10/08
« Reply #29 on: July 12, 2008, 03:52:07 AM »
Shakmen,

Great illustration but one big problem:  There can be NO PULLING MAGNETS!  Magnets have magnitudes of power more force than gravity.  Gravity will never overcome the attractive force of a magnet that has attratively captured it's target.  This is the flaw of A. Quinn's and many other designs.

Please remove the attracting magnets.

And thank you for your assistance.

Australia is one of the places on my wife and mine's places to visit.  Hope to meet some day.

M.

 

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