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capacitor70

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Re: S1r PDF coil description and discussion !!!!
« Reply #90 on: July 12, 2008, 12:21:15 PM »
Why you guys not trying your own design for coil, Its possible with coil but not with s1r9's,
Make bifiller coil something like ground finding coil I don't know much, But I know we can make our own design..... ::)  :o ::)

capacitor70

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Re: S1r PDF coil description and discussion !!!!
« Reply #91 on: July 12, 2008, 01:40:25 PM »
Hint for plasma ignition.......how to use coil for plasma ?.....

xbox hacker

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Re: S1r PDF coil description and discussion !!!!
« Reply #92 on: July 12, 2008, 05:34:27 PM »
Xbox, Hi,

How do you know you got the build correct on the coils with that poor description and image?  Maybe a different arrangement?  Or, do you think it's all BS and a diversion??

Livingwaters08

I have tried the coil, with several winding/directions, insulated/non insulated.....all with same results. BUT i think that he has a good idea, a simple way to boost the amps on the HV is just what we need. Personally i am DONE with the guy! I am sick of his double talk,  lack of full disclosure, and waiting for the smallest scraps of information form him! >:(
 I put my setup under pressure and saw a rise in pressure when the plasma fired! I think i will stick to what i have done. Also anyone who has had success with some sort of bench plasma in this froum has posted schematics that day, including myself. THATS HOW IT SHOULD BE! A group of peeps working together to a common goal! Not one guy with all the answers and none of the disclosure!

happyvalley808

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Re: S1r PDF coil description and discussion !!!!
« Reply #93 on: July 13, 2008, 06:49:40 AM »
Hi ,

I was checking out S1R's youtube profile, his only subscription is to Capacitor70. This leads me to believe that he is watching for a reason, this must mean that Cap70 is on the right track!!
Just an observation...

HV

livingwaters08

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Re: S1r PDF coil description and discussion !!!!
« Reply #94 on: July 13, 2008, 07:46:45 AM »
I have tried the coil, with several winding/directions, insulated/non insulated.....all with same results. BUT i think that he has a good idea, a simple way to boost the amps on the HV is just what we need. Personally i am DONE with the guy! I am sick of his double talk,  lack of full disclosure, and waiting for the smallest scraps of information form him! >:(
 I put my setup under pressure and saw a rise in pressure when the plasma fired! I think i will stick to what i have done. Also anyone who has had success with some sort of bench plasma in this froum has posted schematics that day, including myself. THATS HOW IT SHOULD BE! A group of peeps working together to a common goal! Not one guy with all the answers and none of the disclosure!

Thanks Xbox,
I kinda figured you had tried every conceivable configuration.   I too am sick of S1r...     There is much progress there on the site without him now.  You may be involved in this....so Thanks......
Yes, disclosure immediately.....NOT AFTER 3 YEARS!!!

Livingwaters08
 

xbox hacker

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Re: S1r PDF coil description and discussion !!!!
« Reply #95 on: July 13, 2008, 04:20:30 PM »
Hi ,

I was checking out S1R's youtube profile, his only subscription is to Capacitor70. This leads me to believe that he is watching for a reason, this must mean that Cap70 is on the right track!!
Just an observation...

HV
WOW...good point...

Area 51

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Re: S1r PDF coil description and discussion !!!!
« Reply #96 on: July 14, 2008, 03:51:19 AM »
Hi ,

I was checking out S1R's youtube profile, his only subscription is to Capacitor70. This leads me to believe that he is watching for a reason, this must mean that Cap70 is on the right track!!
Just an observation...

HV

It doesn't surprise me.  ::)

ggx9

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Re: S1r PDF coil description and discussion !!!!
« Reply #97 on: July 14, 2008, 06:06:19 AM »
Has anyone noticed that the beautiful red and black Camaro convertible that began all this is not a 1978? Google 1978 Camaro and you will see a completely different design. I think the picture is a 1968. Does this hurt credibility?
For what it's worth from me, there is no transformer design book that suggests using stranded wire. The name of the game is to minimize airspace in the winding, which is just the opposite. And I've never heard of enameled stranded wire, so if you use vinyl or teflon insulation (as all the stranded wire I've seen uses) your winding build would be even less favorable (less efficient).
I don't want to criticize anyone for attempting a watercar, I've been in this FE search since 1985, but we need to question anything unclear or suspicious. And as frequently mentioned, the fewer secrets you keep, the longer you are likely to live in this business.
The best of luck to all trying.

Richard

livingwaters08

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Re: S1r PDF coil description and discussion !!!!
« Reply #98 on: July 14, 2008, 03:06:27 PM »
Has anyone noticed that the beautiful red and black Camaro convertible that began all this is not a 1978? Google 1978 Camaro and you will see a completely different design. I think the picture is a 1968. Does this hurt credibility?
For what it's worth from me, there is no transformer design book that suggests using stranded wire. The name of the game is to minimize airspace in the winding, which is just the opposite. And I've never heard of enameled stranded wire, so if you use vinyl or teflon insulation (as all the stranded wire I've seen uses) your winding build would be even less favorable (less efficient).
I don't want to criticize anyone for attempting a watercar, I've been in this FE search since 1985, but we need to question anything unclear or suspicious. And as frequently mentioned, the fewer secrets you keep, the longer you are likely to live in this business.
The best of luck to all trying.

Richard

Richard,
The car s1r9a9m9 supposedly runs on water was never a Camaro.  It is/was a 1978 Chevy El-Camino.  Many other sites and discussions list the car as a Camaro.  This is incorrect information.

Livingwaters08


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Re: S1r PDF coil description and discussion !!!!
« Reply #99 on: July 14, 2008, 11:56:04 PM »

bumfuzzled

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Re: S1r PDF coil description and discussion !!!!
« Reply #100 on: July 15, 2008, 01:43:54 AM »
Oh boy he showed how to dismantle a BS coil!!!

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Re: S1r PDF coil description and discussion !!!!
« Reply #101 on: July 15, 2008, 06:26:25 AM »
xbox, if you already have the parts, could you watch the video and rebuild your s1r coil to his exact specs here since you can see the vid, and let us all know if it truelly is a BS crapblower or if the thing really does "shoot lightning" when you hook it up.

p.s. what im really trying to do is get someone to try this now that we can see the build and disassembly array without me haveing to do it, because my faith in it is pretty close to "0" ;)

atlasman

p.s.s.  what i really cant understand is why would a guy take his time to build something like that and put posts on the net and make video's and post them on his weekend off, if there was "nothing to it".  I mean he prolly has several hours into doing all this.  I know i like to kid around, but i have got much better things to do than just "waste time" ,,,, for WHAT?
so MAYBE there is something to this, so i raise my faith level to "1 or 2" now.

tinu

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Re: S1r PDF coil description and discussion !!!!
« Reply #102 on: July 15, 2008, 11:17:12 AM »
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p.s. what im really trying to do is get someone to try this now that we can see the build and disassembly array without me haveing to do it, because my faith in it is pretty close to "0" ;)

atlasman

p.s.s.  what i really cant understand is why would a guy take his time to build something like that and put posts on the net and make video's and post them on his weekend off, if there was "nothing to it".  I mean he prolly has several hours into doing all this.  I know i like to kid around, but i have got much better things to do than just "waste time" ,,,, for WHAT?
so MAYBE there is something to this, so i raise my faith level to "1 or 2" now.

Faith level? Please read my opinion too.

That?s the name of the game in FE/OU: bring more people by any means, wash their brains, make them believe and later they?ll gladly take their time, resources and money, even in small amounts it counts because what?s most importantly is: make one bring many and make hordes growing larger. One nut is enough to bring hundreds?

Many will probably get upset on me because of the above...
What actually one chooses to believe it is not of my concern. I?m just upset because the mud blocks the light, if any out there. Taking an unproved claim and amplifying the noise around it doesn?t help at all. Some would call it manipulation. An ordinary one. How on Earth is that possible?!

Have a nice day,
Tinu

Bruce_TPU

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Re: S1r PDF coil description and discussion !!!!
« Reply #103 on: July 15, 2008, 04:00:38 PM »
Hello All,

I know that most of you have given up on this coil.  But I saw something interesting in it, and conferenced with some other folks from TPU land, about this coil.

We are going to build the coil and test it.  Not with the plug, etc, but with HV pulses.

The coil is unique in several ways.  I will list some of those, and you can feel free to research each if you care too.  As you know, in TPU land we have been studying coils and their interactions for a very, very long time.

1.  Nail=iron core   (Shows someone has a clue who built the transformer)
2.  coils set up to interact with one another and them selves (90 degree rule)
3.  Uninsulated wire over the iron is wrapped like a "magnetic flux accelerator"  See link below, translated, 1/3 of the way down the page:
http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fweb.archive.org%2Fweb%2F20060818094519%2Fhome.arcor.de%2Ffreie.energie%2Fmagnetbeschleuniger%2Fmagnetbeschleuniger.htm&hl=en&ie=UTF8&sl=de&tl=en
4.  The coil has a LV steady bias, with HV pulse on top.  (Think SM, AC riding on DC)
5.  Coil pulsed with extremely HV pulses
6.  Many other things the guys pointed out, too many to list.

BUT having said all of that, it will be bench tested and that will determine what it does.  We will be winding it according to the .pdf, not the drawing by third party's.  We'll post our results, probably by the end of next week.  If it does not work, we will use his principles, change a few things and make it work!

We need a unique HV pulse transformer for our own work, and this is why we will be testing this.  Also, if it helps you guys out, that would be great as well.   ;)

Cheers,

Bruce

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Re: S1r PDF coil description and discussion !!!!
« Reply #104 on: July 15, 2008, 04:32:52 PM »
You the man bruce!  Apparently your smart enough to do all what you say you will, or you wouldnt have said it all  ;D.

Im looking forward to seeing the final "WORKING" product.

atlasman