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Author Topic: S1r PDF coil description and discussion !!!!  (Read 105294 times)

Offline hydrocontrol

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Re: S1r PDF coil description and discussion !!!!
« Reply #45 on: July 09, 2008, 04:41:32 PM »
hydrocontrol:

He didn't remove the carburetor. He removed the float bowl from the bottom of the carburetor.

The float bowl is filled with gas from the gas tank. It has a shutoff valve that stops the gas flow when the bowl is full.
With it removed there would not be enough gas residue to fire the engine over more than a couple of cycles.

The air intake for that particular carburetor is on top. He does appear to be putting the water line into the air intake.

I agreed it was only the float bowl that was removed and not the carburetor.

Skeptic mode back on  ;)
What puzzles me is how the water bottle with the hose behaves. There should be a steady stream of bubbles all the time if there is no valve on the end of the hose to restrict flow but your only see bubbles when the engine is running. I looked up the Briggs 18hp engine to look at pictures. The air cleaner area is large enough to hid a small bottle dripping gas to run the engine for a short period of time. I am not saying that is the case here only that it is possible.
Skeptic mode off.

Okay. Enough being skeptic.  I have a Briggs 7hp electric start engine. Time to start playing.

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Offline bumfuzzled

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Re: S1r PDF coil description and discussion !!!!
« Reply #46 on: July 09, 2008, 05:31:22 PM »
bumfuzzled,
 If that is true, where is the ground wire for the light bulb? Where is the bulb getting it's ground from if only 3 wires are being used?

 From the motors power generating source.

But there are no wires coming from it's charging circuit into the tin can either. If you look closely at video one there's a couple wires running into/underneath the bottom of the motor from somewhere around the starter. They are grayish in color. These could just be going to the solenoid on the starter from when it was on a lawnmower or it could be something else, like 12v from the jumper cables hooked to the starter to the tin can from the backside of of the can, hidden. Personally I think he's trying to throw us a curveball.

Offline Lakes

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Re: S1r PDF coil description and discussion !!!!
« Reply #47 on: July 09, 2008, 05:59:43 PM »
I would suggest instead of speculating on the coil, wait until S1r shows the video of how his coil is built and then try to replicate that.

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Re: S1r PDF coil description and discussion !!!!
« Reply #47 on: July 09, 2008, 05:59:43 PM »
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Re: S1r PDF coil description and discussion !!!!
« Reply #48 on: July 09, 2008, 07:15:51 PM »
Hello all

I finished the coil and going to give it a try, however I'm running an 6 Volt CDI system so I really dont know what to expect.

/Fast

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Offline Shanti

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Re: S1r PDF coil description and discussion !!!!
« Reply #49 on: July 09, 2008, 07:20:37 PM »
I personally like tinkering around. Otherwise I could just sit in a corner and wait until sombody modifies my car... ;D

I just thought about the statement of S1r, that he needs to use a bat charger for the 12V LV otherwise it would not work, and that he would disclose this later...

Well, if the circuit works as I intended before, then the HV Spark has to be positive. But as far as I know most ignition circuits are made, so that the coils fire negative...(is that correct?)
Well you could just exchange the wires to the coil, but then you have an additional problem: If your coil has fired, the coil has no more connection to gnd, but only to 12V. This means, that in the worst case your battery gets the whole surge...
This could only be circumvented if you are as consequent and also wire the engine so, that the whole engine block gets an exchange of 12V and Gnd. So that now, the "Plug GND" is also on 12V...
But then you could not use the lv discharge, for 12V to 12V wouldn't do anything...
Therefore you need an additional isolated 12V source (eg. second bat or a bat charger...) for the lv discharge, where you connect the gnd of your second source to the 12v of the first source.

Hmm, OK maybe this was too much tinkering...I think I shouldn't post so much anymore in here, it will just annoy other people... I will try to stop myself more in the future...

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Re: S1r PDF coil description and discussion !!!!
« Reply #49 on: July 09, 2008, 07:20:37 PM »
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Offline xbox hacker

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Re: S1r PDF coil description and discussion !!!!
« Reply #50 on: July 09, 2008, 11:04:21 PM »
This is what S1r forgot.....

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Yes and I went back and added it to the page. It was about haveing
the # 2 and three coils charged at all times. I set the page up as a
html because my pc for some reason dont make pdf files.

But yes I did go back and put in what I forgot.

I am very tired, sorry.

S1R.

Offline bumfuzzled

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Re: S1r PDF coil description and discussion !!!!
« Reply #51 on: July 09, 2008, 11:11:27 PM »
This is what S1r forgot.....


He must have forgotten that early yesterday because that's how I hooked mine up. That's what the 60 watt bulb is for, to keep it from being a dead short on those two windings. Main problem is he doesn't say which way to wind each coil, but I still don't see just this coil doing anything.

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Re: S1r PDF coil description and discussion !!!!
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Offline dani1

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Re: S1r PDF coil description and discussion !!!!
« Reply #52 on: July 09, 2008, 11:40:02 PM »
ok, lets carry it together:

--- In WaterFuel1978@yahoogroups.com, "s1r9a9m9" <s1r9a9m9@...> wrote:
>
> The coil must have a power supply at all times to energize the wire
> when the engine coil fires. This can be done by useing a fog light
> or small 12 volt motor, or just some thing that will draw power
> through the wire through the coil. It may be possible to run the
> charging wire from the alternator to the battery through the coil
and
> get the same results. It would not be drawing any power from the
> system because it would not be interupted as it flows to the
battery.
> I am still reading through about 6 thousnd pages of work others
have
> provided on this project. I gots a head ache.
>
> I am still looking for a source for the relays. If I find any I
will
> let every one know where I got them.
>
>
> Some one said that you cant get high voltage from a 12 volt system
> just useing the power of the battery and alt.,. but what is the
> voltage coming from the cars coil to the plugs on a car? the fire
> that has always bit me has been over 28000v @ 0.78 amps. or more.
> now all we are doing is adding another coil to boost the fire from
> the first coil to 100 times the stock out put, but we are doing a
> little more we are slowing it down a little and adding some amps
back
> to it as well.
>
>
> It ant rocket science but its not far from it. It seems simple to
be
> able to work, but a lot of time has went into this, and its not
> finished yet.
>
> The engine still surges. It needs a fuel supply system that feeds
it
> as it needs it. there are other things that need to be done as
well.
> I dont have all the answers but I am looking.
>
> I just got lucky on the Elcamino and the generator. Now it needs to
> be made to go on any car or truck. and cheap as posible.
>
>
> A 65amp alternator will charge three car batteries under a 30
percent
> load, and maintain the batteries at 90 percent charge. So how many
> math-tithions will say this cant be done. When the car is running
how
> much powere does it use? Now starting it is another thing , about
150
> amps is pulled from the battery when starting a car engine it is
> replaced with in the first 2 minutes of run time. this is the
hardest
> time for the batterys life , heavy discharge then quick recharge.
But
> how much power does the rest of the car use? Less than 8 percent of
> the batteries copasity. unless you turn on every thing then you are
> useing 20 percent. Stuff on a car does not draw a constant load. It
> veries with engine speed battery condition and other factors as
well.
> Refrence to GM spects on automoitive electrical system uses and
> condition of components. Thats some tough reading.
>
> So we put this coil on each plug with a load pulled through it
going
> to maybe some thing that is being used all the time any ways and we
> now have a system within a system that will draw 3 percent more
from
> the power system than before. We are still not over taxing our
> battery and charging system.
>
> Now as for how to get the water fuel into the cylinders, I havent a
> clue as to how each vehicle will be done. Its not a constant flow
to
> each piston. It takes a lot, but only when it needs it.
>
> Well as I said I dont have all the answers but I do have a bunch of
> papers to go through and sort out a few more things.
>
> I am working on a video to show how to make the coil and what it
does
> hooked up and working.
>
> S1R.
>

------------------
Re: B&S 18 HP Jet size


It didnt matter about the jet size this time , because I ran the hose
into the breather port hole and not through the carb.

None of the engine was modified except the breather filter removed.
This is a stock engine running on water.

The vaccum in the bottle was needed for this test, it had to draw
only what it needed as it needed it , as you could see in video 2
when I gave it to much it shut down and water vapor came out the
exhaust. A valve would have helped but my budget is gone, And its
shoe string streching time for parts.
------------------

It has been said that before the breather filter is the best place for
it because of flash back from the engine. It does help to have the
filter between the intake and the gas flow. If you can make a filter
that fits the end of your flow line then you can put it on the rubber
part close to the engine intake. A vaccuum line will draw the gas but
will also draw some of the water from your tank. If its a small hose
you could use a regular gas filter in the line to stop flash back, one
of those clear ones at the parts store.

----------------------

A Big Thank You S1!!!!

Offline ramset

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Re: S1r PDF coil description and discussion !!!!
« Reply #53 on: July 09, 2008, 11:49:39 PM »
S1 you post a build vid of that coil  I guarantee you will be compensated Chet

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Re: S1r PDF coil description and discussion !!!!
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Offline xbox hacker

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Re: S1r PDF coil description and discussion !!!!
« Reply #54 on: July 10, 2008, 02:05:23 AM »
S1 you post a build vid of that coil  I guarantee you will be compensated Chet

A video is worth about 10,000 words ...LOL

Quote
The vaccum in the bottle was needed for this test, it had to draw
only what it needed as it needed it , as you could see in video 2
when I gave it to much it shut down and water vapor came out the
exhaust. A valve would have helped but my budget is gone, And its
shoe string streching time for parts.

WTF... i went to hardware store and spent $1 to make coil....he didnt need inverter....ok, motor = not cheap...BUT STILLL!!!


OK....i got around to making my coil....And it does the same thing that everyone else coil do...NADA
« Last Edit: July 10, 2008, 03:01:13 AM by xbox hacker »

Offline ninjadaniel

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Re: S1r PDF coil description and discussion !!!!
« Reply #55 on: July 10, 2008, 06:47:42 AM »
OK....i got around to making my coil....And it does the same thing that everyone else coil do...NADA

not surprised dude, you are probably missing the flux capacitor  :D

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Re: S1r PDF coil description and discussion !!!!
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Offline bumfuzzled

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Re: S1r PDF coil description and discussion !!!!
« Reply #56 on: July 10, 2008, 06:49:13 AM »
not surprised dude, you are probably missing the flux capacitor  :D

Flux capacitor.....I was thinking the same thing yesterday!  ;D

Offline ninjadaniel

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Re: S1r PDF coil description and discussion !!!!
« Reply #57 on: July 10, 2008, 06:53:00 AM »
On another note, i have successfully made plasma spark!

At this stage im simply running AC from a 800w generator, through to an iridium plug (seemingly not resistor type) with an IGN coil piggybacked to the one on my car.  using 5 microwave diodes in parallel (2.5a)  to block the hv from coil and 1000v 1a diode to block LV from generator.

Wont work with rectified DC for some reason.   I will discuss this back in the other topic:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,5024.680.html

Offline capacitor70

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Re: S1r PDF coil description and discussion !!!!
« Reply #58 on: July 10, 2008, 07:25:30 AM »
Coil doesn't work..... ;D

Offline livingwaters08

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Re: S1r PDF coil description and discussion !!!!
« Reply #59 on: July 10, 2008, 07:59:53 AM »
He must have forgotten that early yesterday because that's how I hooked mine up. That's what the 60 watt bulb is for, to keep it from being a dead short on those two windings. Main problem is he doesn't say which way to wind each coil, but I still don't see just this coil doing anything.

Don't be Bumfuzzled!  ;D
Look closely at the diagram..you can kind of see which way they're wound.  The nail is what has me... LOL   ???

Livingwaters08

 

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