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Author Topic: S1r PDF coil description and discussion !!!!  (Read 107980 times)

Offline hydrocontrol

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Re: S1r PDF coil description and discussion !!!!
« Reply #15 on: July 09, 2008, 01:15:40 AM »
Refresh this page ...i updated my drawing, per his photo on the yahoo group!

Its also not to scale... ;D

That is a better diagram. Where does the 14 gauge uninsulated wire go ?? Looks like red wire insulation to me from the 'real device' photo. Having it feed from a lamp now makes sense as this would limit current flow. I bet the battery feeding this is taking a beating from back feed high voltage spikes. Looks like no diodes involved. Hummm.. Still not adding up..

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Re: S1r PDF coil description and discussion !!!!
« Reply #16 on: July 09, 2008, 01:33:42 AM »
Just built the coil and it did nothing other than give me the regular HV arc. I don't know electricity very well but I don't see what this is doing. You've got the HV inducing into the LV so how is this giving you 200 times more power??

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Re: S1r PDF coil description and discussion !!!!
« Reply #17 on: July 09, 2008, 01:35:54 AM »
S1r:
I remember that you increased the carb jets 2 sizes in the El Camino 350 V8.  Did you do any increase of jets or whatever for the B & S 18 HP motor?  How did you increase the volume of water vs. gasoline in the B & S or did you?

Also, did you ever put a hole in the top of the water "tank" to allow the air in to displace the water draining out, to avoid the vacuum that would tend to make the water "pulse" out instead of flow evenly?

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See the two comments above and please, comment as to whether or not you made these two adjustments to your motorcycle tests?

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Re: S1r PDF coil description and discussion !!!!
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Offline xbox hacker

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Re: S1r PDF coil description and discussion !!!!
« Reply #18 on: July 09, 2008, 02:10:21 AM »
That is a better diagram. Where does the 14 gauge uninsulated wire go ?? Looks like red wire insulation to me from the 'real device' photo. Having it feed from a lamp now makes sense as this would limit current flow. I bet the battery feeding this is taking a beating from back feed high voltage spikes. Looks like no diodes involved. Hummm.. Still not adding up..

One end if the 14ga goes to the plug and the other goes to the ignition output. In the PDF he says to put a "limiter switch of some sort"... put a lamp inline with the output if the seconds winding and the ground.

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Re: S1r PDF coil description and discussion !!!!
« Reply #19 on: July 09, 2008, 02:23:40 AM »
One thing that i would like to point out is the coil size compared to the nail size... here is a image to show you.

Also should the coil be wound a certain way? Or should that not matter ???
« Last Edit: July 09, 2008, 02:47:16 AM by xbox hacker »

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Re: S1r PDF coil description and discussion !!!!
« Reply #20 on: July 09, 2008, 02:42:59 AM »
Just built the coil and it did nothing other than give me the regular HV arc. I don't know electricity very well but I don't see what this is doing. You've got the HV inducing into the LV so how is this giving you 200 times more power??

This is providing a diversion as someone else is getting too close to really figuring it out. Someone like gotoluc or Cap70 or several other people. I have been playing with this. It appears to be smoke and mirrors unless some other information is missing. Hope I am wrong and I am missing something but with something this simple I doubt it.

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Re: S1r PDF coil description and discussion !!!!
« Reply #21 on: July 09, 2008, 03:31:29 AM »
This is providing a diversion as someone else is getting too close to really figuring it out. Someone like gotoluc or Cap70 or several other people. I have been playing with this. It appears to be smoke and mirrors unless some other information is missing. Hope I am wrong and I am missing something but with something this simple I doubt it.

So you think its a scam? LOL personally i wouldn't expect anything different. But tis all ways fun to try!

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Re: S1r PDF coil description and discussion !!!!
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Re: S1r PDF coil description and discussion !!!!
« Reply #22 on: July 09, 2008, 03:34:50 AM »
This is providing a diversion as someone else is getting too close to really figuring it out. Someone like gotoluc or Cap70 or several other people. I have been playing with this. It appears to be smoke and mirrors unless some other information is missing. Hope I am wrong and I am missing something but with something this simple I doubt it.

That's my thought but I had to try. Either he's leaving something out or he's full of it. I even tried pulsing the two coils that are connected to each other with 12v and 120.

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Re: S1r PDF coil description and discussion !!!!
« Reply #23 on: July 09, 2008, 03:57:53 AM »
Keep in mind that the HV from the Magneto is going in here somewhere.

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Re: S1r PDF coil description and discussion !!!!
« Reply #24 on: July 09, 2008, 04:25:37 AM »
S!R will fix it   no need to think Scam prematurely Chet

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Re: S1r PDF coil description and discussion !!!!
« Reply #25 on: July 09, 2008, 04:30:24 AM »
Keep in mind that the HV from the Magneto is going in here somewhere.

Michael Couch

The HV goes in on the bare 14 ga wire.

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Offline hydrocontrol

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Re: S1r PDF coil description and discussion !!!!
« Reply #26 on: July 09, 2008, 04:57:58 AM »
So you think its a scam? LOL personally i wouldn't expect anything different. But tis all ways fun to try!
I did not imply that did I  ;)  I just think something is still left out.  ;D Give it a couple more days and a few more people replicating before we go down that road. ::) I still think the setup that gotoluc, Capacitor70, and ozzie are playing with show more promise then the weak setup I see with this spark which looks like a normal spark. No plasma here that I can see. Still I might have something wrong with my setup so a couple more people need to try.

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Re: S1r PDF coil description and discussion !!!!
« Reply #27 on: July 09, 2008, 05:05:27 AM »
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Re: S1r PDF coil description and discussion !!!!
« Reply #28 on: July 09, 2008, 06:23:14 AM »
How to trigger plasma without diodes ?
1. Coil Black Wire carries high current, red wire low current for bulb
2. Bulb helps to conduct transformer. Without Bulb How you can make transformer work ?
3. Why we are using diodes, diodes prevent HV from going to battery side, we need spark
   at the tip of the spark plug and at the same time DC voltage across the tip. This is achived here with coil.
4. When HV gives spike to the coil, on coil secondery battery is connected which comes
   in series with HV induced in its coil, so the votage at the tip of spark plug is
   Bat + HV, creates plasma channel. No need of inverter, once plasma channel is created and discharge starts you need to disconnect battery
   from draining it completely. Sr1 is taking about some waveforms....
5. Once the plasma channel is created Battery current flows through plasma channel (Thousands of Amps ) and
   bulb turns off, and HV coil is also in off state. This battery voltage is having large current, current is important
   for plasma blast this way it works. Plasma have infinity conductivity (zero resistance).
6. It dosent matter how much voltage is why we need voltage is to just to cover voltage drop of our diodes.
   I have taken trials with 175V DC and 315V DC both have nearly same effect.

Hear is pic of coil wiring... Make sure coil polarity (direction of turns)

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Re: S1r PDF coil description and discussion !!!!
« Reply #29 on: July 09, 2008, 06:49:09 AM »
Cap70, in the photo he doesn't have the high curent coil tied in with the HV out to the plug. Also, look at the main windings, doesn't that look like black insulated wire instead of the bare 14 ga wire he is saying it should be??

 

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