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retrodynamic

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« Reply #90 on: July 06, 2008, 08:01:32 AM »

Sorry the complete name, is; Carlos.
I forget the "s" at the end.
Please dont be mad, looks like everybody here are kranky for words.
Be happy with numbers.
Carlos Barrera.

squegee69

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Re: The One Million Dollar HHO Challenge is launched
« Reply #91 on: July 06, 2008, 08:24:07 AM »
Sr. Barrera,

Muchas gracias. Cu?ndo nosotros tenemos las ideas nuevo, son f?cil de descontar las ideas al supersticion. En este evente ellos son las ideas muy cre?bles, especialmente cuando ellos son visibles en ciudades como Las Vegas, Nevada donde los taxis son operados con el propano, no gasolina. Es la hora del "cambio" seguramente. Disp?nseme por favor con mi hacer de la lengua espa?ol.

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icanbeatbob

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Re: The One Million Dollar HHO Challenge is launched
« Reply #92 on: July 06, 2008, 08:26:00 AM »
@xjet,

Makes sense to me except for the part about the guys willing to dish out money, when you say you have irrefutable evidence that it does not work. Didn't you say they thought that it did work, or am I incorrect? Have they not seen the tests?

I am looking forward to your results. I don't mind being wrong...kind of use to it now that I am older. I hope it reveals the truth. But you know this is not going to stop them all. There will be some who have faith more than sense. And there are others who believe that they are doing it now, like my friend (You probably won't be able to convince him) Then there are those who just have to do it for themselves. I just hope that the tests are done without any bias. If your findings are true, then thank you for exposing the scams.

One last thing. Anybody can disprove suedo science.

icanbeatbob

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Re: The One Million Dollar HHO Challenge is launched
« Reply #93 on: July 06, 2008, 08:28:37 AM »
Didn't spell check. sorry

retrodynamic

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Re: The One Million Dollar HHO Challenge is launched
« Reply #94 on: July 06, 2008, 08:45:53 AM »
Its alive.

retrodynamic

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Re: The One Million Dollar HHO Challenge is launched
« Reply #95 on: July 06, 2008, 08:48:15 AM »
Sorry my gramatic is not good in off, like my projects are.
C.B.

squegee69

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Re: The One Million Dollar HHO Challenge is launched
« Reply #96 on: July 06, 2008, 09:15:07 AM »
Sorry my gramatic is not good in off, like my projects are.
C.B.
Como mis muchas traducciones, el monstruo de Frankenstein es a menudo el resultado. Otra vez, por favor, perdona mis esfuerzos, yo escribo a m?quina m?s que toqueteo por lo tanto mis resultados son a menudo sarc?sticos antes que pr?cticos.

retrodynamic

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Re: The One Million Dollar HHO Challenge is launched
« Reply #97 on: July 06, 2008, 09:43:00 AM »

Y mi estimado Se?or squegee69, es su deseo que le reponda en espa?ol.
Solo permitame comentarle la extrordinaria importancia de poder tener la gran oportunidad de presentar mis proyectos; www.geocities.com/gearturbine En este tan importante Forum, Con gente tan valiosa como lo es usted. Mi estimado Se?or.
Agradesco de ante mano sus finas atenciones.

squegee69

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Re: The One Million Dollar HHO Challenge is launched
« Reply #98 on: July 06, 2008, 10:00:18 AM »
?Aguardo la llegada de sus videos verdaderos del gearturbine, parece ser muy impresionante! ?Quiz?s usted podr?a anunciar m?s informaci?n en este descubrimiento en un foro relacionado a motores? Soy implicado personalmente en un proyecto muy semejante a suyo y soy emocionado muy acerca de ello (OSPMM).  Este venue es regarde lo HHO...


----english---

I await the arrival of your actual videos of the gearturbine,  It appears to be very impressive!  Perhaps you could post more information on this discovery on a forum related to motors?  I am personally involved in a project very similar to yours and am very excited about it (OSPMM).  This venue is regarding HHO...

retrodynamic

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Re: The One Million Dollar HHO Challenge is launched
« Reply #99 on: July 06, 2008, 10:15:59 AM »

Todo lo que puedes ver es lo que tengo para mostrar por el momento. Realy. All you can see is what I have to show for now. Realmente.
El video de youtube lo explica todo y en la animacion puedes verlo girar y girar. The youtube video explains all, and the animation you can see turn and turn.
Dibujos y cosas. Draws and stuff.
This is or this is not.
Tic Tac Toe.

www.geocities.com/gearturbine

fuzzytomcat

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Re: The One Million Dollar HHO Challenge is launched
« Reply #100 on: July 06, 2008, 10:50:12 AM »
Trust me, I wouldn't take on a bet I didn't think I could win.

I've already done tests that conclusively prove that the science is correct and the claims being made by HHO scammers are groundless.

I intend to publish the detail of those tests on the http://interestingprojects.com website shortly but in effect, it showed (as the science predicts) that while the introduction of H2 and O2 (generated from electrolysis) into the intake of an ICE will result in more work being done for a given amount of gasoline consumed, as soon as you ask the ICE to provide the energy needed to perform that electrolysis, the overall system efficiency is *reduced* and indeed becomes negative when compared to an unmodified ICE.

Three tests were conducted three times each, the results averaged and the conclusion was very clear, well outside the margin of error.

Now when I publish these tests, I'm sure that the HHO scammers will simply say "the tests were flawed", "he did it wrong", "it was a deliberate attempt to discredit the technology", etc, etc.

That is why I am challenging the scammers themselves to provide the proof.  This is the only way we can get irrefutable evidence one way or the other.

If all the entrants are on a level playing field, there's no oil-company or government involvement and the results are published publicly for all to see -- there can be no question of impropriety or conspiracy involved if it turns out that the scammers claims are completely disproved and the HHO hoax is exposed.
Nowhere near as many times as I've seen pseudo-science proved wrong, believe me!


To often many good ideas are ruined by bad intension such as the "glass jelly jar" there claims of up to a 75% improvement in gas mileage everyone should know that this is flat impossible with this device using 9 feet of stainless steel electrode piano wire and baking soda, but yet the knowledgable people say nothing. Ebay is flooded with devices that have copper wire and crimp terminals inside the generators or electolysers knowing that the corrosive electrolytes corrode the copper causing higher amperage to a failure, as most of you know electricity runs on the outside surface of the wire not like water in a hose. We as in the people concerned with (HHO) Oxyhydrogen production need to weed our own or this is a doomed idea. I my self make these devices with approx 200 sq.in. of stainless steel electrode surface area, I have used everything as an electrolyte ( NaHCO3, NaOH, KOH, NaCl, Vinegar and Sea Water) even H2O2 as a booster in the same device with outputs ranging from a real 1 to 1.7 Liters per minute. I see the claims all the time on blogs and on Utube some just make me so mad because of the flat out lies. I'll say it one more time we need to take a good look at what is going on and question the obviously wrong or people like Mr. Simpson with public opinion will eat this up alive.

 

nightlife

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Re: The One Million Dollar HHO Challenge is launched
« Reply #101 on: July 06, 2008, 11:26:54 AM »
xjet, here is a link to a PDF file that you should read. It will help explain things for you that you seem to want to discredit.

http://www.waterfuelcell.org/ForumPDFs/International%20Independent%20Test%20Evaluation%20Report.pdf

retrodynamic

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Re: The One Million Dollar HHO Challenge is launched
« Reply #102 on: July 06, 2008, 07:19:08 PM »

You put the electric wire at the water, and in one side H (I dont remember if is the positive, or negative) is the double of bubbles, because is two H H, and in the other side is the oxigen O.
And if you have a very efficient over-unit power plant, is good because, you can make it cheap.

fuzzytomcat

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Re: The One Million Dollar HHO Challenge is launched
« Reply #103 on: July 06, 2008, 08:05:24 PM »
You put the electric wire at the water, and in one side H (I dont remember if is the positive, or negative) is the double of bubbles, because is two H H, and in the other side is the oxigen O.
And if you have a very efficient over-unit power plant, is good because, you can make it cheap.

I am an Electrical Engineer and a Licensed Electrical Contractor in the State of Oregon in the USA, I have Been Making (HHO) Oxyhydrgen devices for two years now on sale on my web site. This "MASON" jar is a piece of junk a scam and a fraud on there claims of a 75% increase in gas mileage it cannot be done with this device no way no how and if you buy one you get what you pay for, a glass gar full of crap. "PERIOD"

These are the devices that make the good manufactures of (HHO) devices look like a clowns because of there bogus lies about stupid products that are available like the "MASON" jelly jar.

We are under the microscope by people such as Mr. Bruce Simpson like it or not, and now public opinion means everything.

exxcomm0n

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Re: The One Million Dollar HHO Challenge is launched
« Reply #104 on: July 06, 2008, 08:24:14 PM »
This seems familiar......

Another day, another helping of "Special K".

Seems like I've seen this all before, and it added up to (in) the same end.

:D

If the guy wants to set up a bogus challenge, let him (and it certainly seems that way from the angle of an unsecured or bonded $1M prize).

I'll take mine in the gas savings I enjoy, and it doesn't seem that it will take too long with the way petroleum products are heading. ;)