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0ne

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Re: The One Million Dollar HHO Challenge is launched
« Reply #45 on: July 06, 2008, 01:26:52 AM »
xjet, you are aware that you can design a fuel cell (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_cell) that only collects H2 right? Are you also aware, that unless you make H2 in a vacuum, there will ALWAYS be oxygen present... right?

Also, do you not believe I invented anti-gravity? Or would you like me to drop a 30ton block on your head?  Or maybe you can take a look at Coral Castle, the guy that created it, Ed Leedskalnin, told me how to do it! 

Also, it seems you are way out of your league. Since you don't even know basic science!  Do you think electrolysis is a LAW? Because if you do, then you are an idiot.  Electrolysis is not 0NE method, nor is there 0NE way to make hydrogen with electricity... some reason your empty skull doesn't realize that.

p.s. have you ever herd of the "reverse casimir effect"?

probably not...

oh and if you want overunity, check out my magnet battery..

http://www.lawofmagnetism.com/magbat.html

More energy out.. no energy in. Wow overunity!

I deal with theories you don't even know about yet.

xjet

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Re: The One Million Dollar HHO Challenge is launched
« Reply #46 on: July 06, 2008, 01:42:56 AM »
oh and if you want overunity, check out my magnet battery..

http://www.lawofmagnetism.com/magbat.html

More energy out.. no energy in. Wow overunity!

I deal with theorys you don't even know about yet.
Sigh....

Another basic mistake that people who know very little about *true* science often make.

Here's a useful reference to describe how your "magnetic" battery is really working:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galvanic_cell

Hint.. there is moisture in the skin of your fingers and metals from which the keeper and magnet are made are not identical -- hence a galvanic potential is created.

The effect is even greater when you use a water-soaked tissue because the water is acting as an electrolyte.

For goodness sake man, instead of telling us how "clever" you are you're simply showing your incredible ignorance of basic science and making yourself look foolish.  And whenever you're about to make another stunning announcement as to how you've come up with some silly piece of pseudo-science, take a moment to reflect on  Occam's Razor.

Your "magnetic battery" web-page would send anyone with even a modicum of scientific knowledge into fits of laughter.  Now stop it and go do your homework.


0ne

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Re: The One Million Dollar HHO Challenge is launched
« Reply #47 on: July 06, 2008, 01:46:04 AM »
Here's a useful reference to describe how your "magnetic" battery is really working:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galvanic_cell

WRONG!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQHLtSDwtyc

I have already proven it is not galvanic! doh! where are you gonna run now huh? Your theories don't explain this! wow! what are you going to do now? LOL

Yeah go read about triboelectrical effects and magnetostatics, and you will still not figure it out LOL.

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Re: The One Million Dollar HHO Challenge is launched
« Reply #48 on: July 06, 2008, 01:55:33 AM »
WRONG!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQHLtSDwtyc

I have already proven it is not galvanic! doh! where are you gonna run now huh? Your theorys don't explain this! wow! what are you going to do now? LOL
Okay, repeat the test *without* a magnet but with another piece of dissimilar metal.  You might be surprised at what you see.

And remember, *true* science involves using controls and repeatable experiments.  There's none of that here.  Where is the control experiment using a non-magnetic material?  How many times was this experiment repeated and what was the voltage read/mean/average/SD?

Have you accounted for stray external magnetic fields (which often introduce voltages as high as tens or even hundreds of mV in conductors some distance from the source -- remember Tesla???)  after all, you're inside a giant coil of mains-wiring while your in a house or workshop so capacitive/inductive pickup is almost a certainty.  Have you conducted the experiment inside a magnetically shielded environment to discount such effects?

Before you can make a statement as bold as "My explanation will involve things not yet known by traditional science" you must first know a little about traditional science -- which you clearly don't.  You can only claim "unknown" after you've eliminated all the "know" causes - which you obviously haven't because you don't even know half of the conventional science involved.


Also, with a mind as closed as yours, I doubt you'll ever learn anything new.

0ne

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Re: The One Million Dollar HHO Challenge is launched
« Reply #49 on: July 06, 2008, 02:05:49 AM »
xjet,

I know everything about static electricity and electricity in general, I know everything about magnetostatics, I know everything that you ever learned. Yes, I know your theories. I also know OTHER theories.

Do you truly believe that your theories explain all of the world? Do you truly believe that you know everything about the universe and there is nothing left to discover? Did it ever cross your mind that there is more than 1 way to explain things, and still be correct?

Maybe you should EXPERIMENT instead of using your missing brain.

Or maybe you should try reading:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4762.0.html

Let me ask you a question...

What is a magnetic field? Is it a wave, or is it particles?  {whistles jeopardy theme song}


p.s. I can replicate ALL of Teslas inventions, and inventions he didn't get a chance to release. I can also explain the double slit experiment, can you?


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Re: The One Million Dollar HHO Challenge is launched
« Reply #50 on: July 06, 2008, 02:20:58 AM »
I note you nicely avoided answering the questions I asked - I wonder why?

I know everything about static electricity and electricity in general, I know everything about magnetostatics, I know everything that you ever learned. Yes, I know your theories. I also know OTHER theories.
The first thing that intelligent people with an interest in science learn is that they actually know very little.  Clearly you haven't reached that stage yet.

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Do you truly believe that your theories explain all of the world? Do you truly believe that you know everything about the universe and there is nothing left to discover?
No, that's a claim that only you seem to be making.

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Maybe you should EXPERIMENT instead of using your missing brain.
Do you even know who I am or what I do?  I suspect not.

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p.s. I can replicate ALL of Teslas inventions, and inventions he didn't get a chance to release. I can also explain the double slit experiment, can you?
I strongly suspect you can explain *anything* because you don't have to deal with annoying little issues like *facts*.  In your world, things are exactly as *you* describe them - despite the laws and facts that rule the world the rest of us must live in.

0ne

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Re: The One Million Dollar HHO Challenge is launched
« Reply #51 on: July 06, 2008, 02:30:41 AM »
I note you nicely avoided answering the questions I asked - I wonder why?

Because I pointed you to a link that answeres them all!! DOH! Man you are an idiot!

The first thing that intelligent people with an interest in science learn is that they actually know very little.  Clearly you haven't reached that stage yet.

No, you don't understand (like usual), I know ALL OF YOUR THEORIES ABOUT EVERYTHING. Yes, I know every single thing that you know, and more. I never once claimed to know everything about everything, but I know everything about your theories.

No, that's a claim that only you seem to be making.

I do have a "theory of everything" that can explain all supernatural and paranormal, and everything else. Yes I build computers for fun, I am a software/electrical/mechanical/everything engineer. I study EVERYTHING.

Do you even know who I am or what I do?  I suspect not.

I don't care. You are nobody. You are a bunch of words on the screen. For all I know you are a wannabe aeronautical engineer, that thinks he is a top dog. Right Bruce Simpson? Oh wow I even know your name... LOL.

I strongly suspect you can explain *anything* because you don't have to deal with annoying little issues like *facts*.  In your world, things are exactly as *you* describe them - despite the laws and facts that rule the world the rest of us must live in.


I know all your facts, I also know why your missiles have so much drag! That's because you have no clue that static electricity is created when you fly through air, and static charges are attracted to Earth. Doh! You are a wannabe rocket scientist, talking to someone who knows The Secret of The Universe.

You are nobody.

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Re: The One Million Dollar HHO Challenge is launched
« Reply #52 on: July 06, 2008, 02:38:44 AM »
As I said earlier, people will judge you by your words and I think that nothing I can say will paint a more disturbing picture than the one you've painted of yourself.

And while I have enjoyed the discussion, I now grow tired of engaging in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent.

Let's get back to the topic that this thread is supposed to be about.  I've had enough laughter for one day.

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Re: The One Million Dollar HHO Challenge is launched
« Reply #53 on: July 06, 2008, 02:43:07 AM »
LOL, go ahead and judge me by my words. Then I will know you are underestimating me, which gives me that advantage over you. Which is exactly what I planned.

Sure lets get back onto the topic I already destroyed.

Answer this Bruce:

What is magnetic force? Waves, or particles?

Then answer this, why is water diamagnetic?

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Re: The One Million Dollar HHO Challenge is launched
« Reply #54 on: July 06, 2008, 02:49:37 AM »
What is magnetic force? Waves, or particles?

Then answer this, why is water diamagnetic?
As I said ... off-topic, move along please.  Start a different thread if you want to exercise your massive brain.  Thank you.

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Re: The One Million Dollar HHO Challenge is launched
« Reply #55 on: July 06, 2008, 02:55:25 AM »
It's not off topic, I am challenging your 0ne Million Dollar HHO Challenge.  But how can I challenge it when you don't even know the basics?

If you don't know why water is diamagnetic, then how are you ever going to believe when the real deal is right in front of your face?

If you don't know why magnetism is involved, then you don't know the TRUE method for water dissociation.

Answer the questions please...

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Re: The One Million Dollar HHO Challenge is launched
« Reply #56 on: July 06, 2008, 03:00:05 AM »
Answer the questions please...
Sorry, you still owe me a few answers from earlier in the thread and I'm not interested in discussing your bogus BS.  Now go away and stop destroying the signal-to-noise ratio in this thread.

0ne

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Re: The One Million Dollar HHO Challenge is launched
« Reply #57 on: July 06, 2008, 03:15:00 AM »
Bogus?

Is it not true that water is diamagnetic? Is it not true that protons, electrons, and neutrons have electromagnetic interactions? Do you understand how this information could help with the production of hydrogen gas?

Answer the questions...

What if I told you a way to disassotiate water without electricity? You know that exists right? Do you know WHY it exists? Do you know how to amplify that reaction?

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If you can't answer that, then answer this:

How are you going to scientificaly test the devices from the HHO challenge?  Are you going to scientificaly figure it out? Or are you just going to look at it, and say it does or doesn't work?

Do you know anything about diamagnetic water?

Do you know why water absorbs sunlight? Do you know why radar's in military aircraft show complete darkness while over the ocean? Do you know ANYTHING about water? Do you know anything about Alchemy?

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« Reply #58 on: July 06, 2008, 03:16:17 AM »
To those who are aware that the laws of thermodynamics remain immutable and that these claims are just hot air then I agree... you'll probably think it's a joke.

Has anyone taken you up on the challenge yet?  Not discounting mob psychology, but there are a lot of people scattered around the globe all claiming some degree of success.

As to the issue of getting usable hydrogen from electrolysis... doesn't sound to far fetched to me, if my opinion counts for anything.  Heck, I've even seen an atomic hydrogen welder in use, in total defiance of the laws of thermodynamics.

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« Reply #59 on: July 06, 2008, 03:22:39 AM »
Has anyone taken you up on the challenge yet?  Not discounting mob psychology, but there are a lot of people scattered around the globe all claiming some degree of success.
No, nobody has even pre-registered.  With all those wild claims being made and the chance to score an easy $1m, it kind of makes you wonder why doesn't it?

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As to the issue of getting usable hydrogen from electrolysis... doesn't sound to far fetched to me, if my opinion counts for anything.
No, you're quite right - electrolysis is a perfectly viable way to extract hydrogen from oxygen and it's a technology that's been around since the 1800s.

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  Heck, I've even seen an atomic hydrogen welder in use, in total defiance of the laws of thermodynamics.
Why would it be "in total defiance of the laws of thermodynamics"?

So long as the gas being generated didn't produce more energy than it took to create it, the laws of thermodynamics remain intact.

Jewelers often use electrolysis to generate H2 and O2 for use in small torches when welding precious metals such as silver and gold.  Not only is it cheaper than using gases such as acetylene but there's also no chance of carbon-contamination of the weld.

However, for welding other metals such as steel, there are too many problems such as a low calorific output and hydrogen embrittlement make things like Klein's Aquagen system a practical alternative to existing technologies (despite what Klein might say).