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Author Topic: The One Million Dollar HHO Challenge is launched  (Read 66420 times)

Offline xjet

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The One Million Dollar HHO Challenge is launched
« on: July 05, 2008, 03:28:22 AM »
I'm the guy who posted the HHO Scam video to YouTube (I'm sure most of you have already seen it).

This posting is just to let you know that I've organized a one million dollar prize for the first person who can use one of these HHO setups to consistently produce an improvement in fuel efficiency of 25% or more without causing engine damage.

The details are on the website referred to in the video.

It is now time for those who are making such bold claims to step up to the base and play ball!

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Offline resonanceman

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Re: The One Million Dollar HHO Challenge is launched
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2008, 03:44:42 AM »


It is now time for those who are making such bold claims to step up to the base and play ball!



Ya

Right .

As if you have any  credibility  here.

What oil  company is  putting up  the million?

gary



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Re: The One Million Dollar HHO Challenge is launched
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2008, 03:49:46 AM »
I have three wealthy individuals who are prepared to pay $1m if this technology works as advertised, and no -- they're not part of an oil-company conspiracy.

And I don't know why you'd challenge my credibility, I've done a lot more work in the area of combustion than most here I strongly suspect.

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Re: The One Million Dollar HHO Challenge is launched
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2008, 03:49:46 AM »
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Offline TheOne

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Re: The One Million Dollar HHO Challenge is launched
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2008, 04:04:06 AM »
What video scam?

What is your website?

Right now you need to prove something then just word!

Also 25% is not enough, a lot of folk already doing better then this, you know, when you use a HHO booster you need to hack the O2 sensor to see a benefit. If you don't allow this kind of modification. I dump any HHO cell will able to do it since you need to do some MOD on the car to make it HHO compliant...

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Re: The One Million Dollar HHO Challenge is launched
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2008, 04:10:29 AM »
What video scam?

What is your website?
The $1m Challenge


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Right now you need to prove something then just word!
As Carl Sagan said "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" and since I'm not the one claiming huge fuel-savings, the burden of proof falls on those who are.

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Also 25% is not enough, a lot of folk already doing better then this, you know, when you use a HHO booster you need to hack the O2 sensor to see a benefit. If you don't allow this kind of modification. I dump any HHO cell will able to do it since you need to do some MOD on the car to make it HHO compliant...
But tweaking the O2 sensor causes the car to run lean and thus any fuel-savings are coming from a sacrifice in engine-life and NOx emissions.

However, O2 sensor tweaks will be allowed but if engine-damage or excessive NOx emissions occur as a result then the entry will be disallowed.  Given that most of the HHO advocates are claiming *lower* emissions and no damage to your engine, this ought not to be a problem, should it?

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Re: The One Million Dollar HHO Challenge is launched
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2008, 04:10:29 AM »
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Offline TheOne

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Re: The One Million Dollar HHO Challenge is launched
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2008, 04:22:28 AM »
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Those wishing to enter the challenge will have to pay a US$5,000 entry fee, which is obviously pocket-change compared to the $1m that is on offer and will cover the costs associated with running the challenge.

Anyway, this challenge is more for the peoples that live near to you, I dont know where you are btw but I will not waste any penny for that... Since you will do what you can do to destroy the vehicle and since you need to pay a ridiculous amount of money, sound like more like a big scam to make money.

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Re: The One Million Dollar HHO Challenge is launched
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2008, 04:25:48 AM »
Anyway, this challenge is more for the peoples that live near to you, I dont know where you are btw but I will not waste any penny for that... Since you will do what you can do to destroy the vehicle and since you need to pay a ridiculous amount of money, sound like more like a big scam to make money.
As I figured, those making bold claims are unwilling or unable to put them to a truly independent scientific test even when there is the chance to earn a very handsome amount of money.  And what's more, there's no way the oil companies can bury this -- so it puts the "oil company conspiracy" claims to the test also.

Such decisions speak volumes for the veracity of those claims.  Thanks for playing.

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Re: The One Million Dollar HHO Challenge is launched
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2008, 04:25:48 AM »
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Offline TheOne

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Re: The One Million Dollar HHO Challenge is launched
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2008, 04:30:47 AM »
lol

You know what you are stupid thinking like that. People like me that have no money anyway, you know you are talking to the people here, don't think someone will pay 5k from there own pocket for this scam.

Even if you pay and have better then 25% and all you will find something to avoid to pay it.

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Re: The One Million Dollar HHO Challenge is launched
« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2008, 04:43:00 AM »
lol

You know what you are stupid thinking like that. People like me that have no money anyway, you know you are talking to the people here, don't think someone will pay 5k from there own pocket for this scam.

Even if you pay and have better then 25% and all you will find something to avoid to pay it.
So you're not prepared to stand behind the claims being made for these HHO kits then, fair enough, your choice.  Nobody's going to force you to take $1m if you don't want it.

But you must be really rich to turn down a chance like this (or simply be aware you could never achieve the 25% required).

Anyone else?

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Re: The One Million Dollar HHO Challenge is launched
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Offline resonanceman

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Re: The One Million Dollar HHO Challenge is launched
« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2008, 04:53:49 AM »
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The car will be tuned, checked and prepared by an authorized dealer for the make and model concerned and driven for a month in typical freeway and around-town conditions. The fuel consumption and distance covered will be used to calculate a base-line "real-world" mpg figure.


So  the work done on the car is  done  by a  authorized dealer ........no doubt a dealer  instructed in  making sure things such as the O2 sensor  are set to factory specs   .......

Yes I know it is  illegal  to tamper  with  the O2 sensor  ......  I also know WHY  it is illegal  .........so I really don't  give a dam .   In   this  case .......if you  have the knowledge               it is immoral to  be legal.





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Re: The One Million Dollar HHO Challenge is launched
« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2008, 05:02:34 AM »
So  the work done on the car is  done  by a  authorized dealer ........no doubt a dealer  instructed in  making sure things such as the O2 sensor  are set to factory specs   .......
Prior to the installation of the HHO system yes, but after that, no further changes will be made to the vehicles.  They must, of course, pass emission tests.

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Yes I know it is  illegal  to tamper  with  the O2 sensor  ......  I also know WHY  it is illegal  .........so I really don't  give a dam .   In   this  case .......if you  have the knowledge               it is immoral to  be legal.
So are you saying that these systems only work if you're prepared to break the law?  That does seem a bit of a drawback doesn't it?

Perhaps that might explain why they're not fitted to the cars we drive today as standard equipment?  So it's not really an oil-company conspiracy after all then?


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Re: The One Million Dollar HHO Challenge is launched
« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2008, 05:02:34 AM »
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Re: The One Million Dollar HHO Challenge is launched
« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2008, 05:03:51 AM »
So you're not prepared to stand behind the claims being made for these HHO kits then, fair enough, your choice.  Nobody's going to force you to take $1m if you don't want it.

But you must be really rich to turn down a chance like this (or simply be aware you could never achieve the 25% required).

Anyone else?


To turn  down an  opportunity  like this you must either  be really rich ........or have a brain .

Anyone   with even half a brain should know that   a  skeptic that  starts  a  contest  about what he is  skeptical about   has no interest in anyone  winning that   contest .

It is  your contest
It is your  rules .
No one will win .
You will see to that .


gary



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Re: The One Million Dollar HHO Challenge is launched
« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2008, 05:14:28 AM »
To turn  down an  opportunity  like this you must either  be really rich ........or have a brain .

Anyone   with even half a brain should know that   a  skeptic that  starts  a  contest  about what he is  skeptical about   has no interest in anyone  winning that   contest .

Au contraire.

I would *love* someone to win this challenge because I actually stand to make a *lot* of money if they do - and nothing if they don't.  So don't prejudge my bias.

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It is  your contest
It is my idea, the contest is not "owned" by anyone.

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It is your  rules .
The rules will be very clearly spelt out and unambiguous.  They will not be changed.  Unless you can explain why the rules would be unfair, there is no justification for complaint on that ground.

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No one will win .
I suspect you're right - but that's not my fault, I didn't come up with the laws of thermodynamics.

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You will see to that .
No, as I said, the laws of thermodynamics are not mine.



Offline resonanceman

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Re: The One Million Dollar HHO Challenge is launched
« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2008, 05:46:07 AM »
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Those wishing to enter the challenge will have to pay a US$5,000 entry fee, which is obviously pocket-change compared to the $1m that is on offer and will cover the costs associated with running the challenge.


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You  are a funny man

This  is the  best  joke I have heard in  months


gary

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Re: The One Million Dollar HHO Challenge is launched
« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2008, 05:55:00 AM »
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

You  are a funny man

This  is the  best  joke I have heard in  months
Gary, can you remind me -- how much was the entry fee for the X-Prize again?

It's par for the course and stops the tire-kickers from wasting everyone's time.

To anyone who seriously believes they can reliably produce a 25%+ fuel saving it's chicken-feed and well worth the investment.

To those who are aware that the laws of thermodynamics remain immutable and that these claims are just hot air then I agree... you'll probably think it's a joke.

 

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