Hey Cap
What did he say
did you get him
Whats happening

Dont want to hassle you but I am quite excited about this as I think I could make this happen for vehicle fuel for me now

So My guess is that an electric charge could be used(like in cold fusion).Otherwise maybe just gas pressure(forcing methane into the charcoal).Then maybe use heat(?) to pull it back out?So I'm just guessing here.Triffid

I found this on building your own methane generator...

http://www.re-energy.ca/t-i_biomassbuild-2.shtml

Regards...

Thanks for the info on the methane storage with corncob carbon.I think its definately part of the solution.To think that 120 times the volume can be absorbed easily with corncob charcoal.But with a metal cage molecule up to 230 times the volume ,while the DOE goal was 180 times the volume.Looks like we are on our way with methane burning cars.Triffid

I found this on building your own methane generator...

http://www.re-energy.ca/t-i_biomassbuild-2.shtml

Regards...

Hi Cap,
This looks a lot like the things you needed to do with the grass clippings methane producer.
I looked for the book at realgoods. I don't see it online. But you just had to collect the grass clippings in a big container and they (the clippings) did the rest. You just had to collect it.

This looks like the same idea with pellets... same grass... different form, but, I guess the nitrogen in there is the same.

Somebody with a lawn mower ought to try this. cut the grass... make methane... mod the lawnmower to run on the methane from the grass-gas.

ok I will be still, for a while. 

jeanna

Hey Cap and all,

How apropos that you'd use the word "fertile". The other side of a methane collector (IF the stuff you've posted about leaves it and it's NOT converted to methane or water) is that it's a super fertilizer generator.

A standard septic system is like a compost pile (IF you don't use chlorine based toilet cleansers or tank "drop ins"). New stuff keeps being added to the top and what is on the bottom (that should already be converted by this time) is "super fertilizer" that is organic.

Use of this type of methane generator might mean a change in building to have the septic tank be built above ground and gas tight with a spigot on the bottom to draw off the fertilizer or with a stand pipe to draw off the converted water. I would assume, but do not absolutely know, that solid matter  would filter to the bottom which might need a filter floor so "converted" water can be collected there.

I often argued with an energy efficiency expert I worked with about "cropping" methane and how much sense it would make to do so. He set me straight on a few things about methane generation.

1.) It's an anaerobic bacteria that produces it, meaning that it doesn't like oxygen.

2.) It (methane) will be produced if the bacteria is kept within a pretty slim margin of pH.

3.) It needs to be agitated every so often to expose unconverted sepsis to the bacteria so they can eat it.

4.) It helps to have a blend of carnivore AND herbivore waste for good fertilizer "balance".

If you'd have a moment and have already started dialog w/ the inventor of this enzyme, you might want to ask about the fertilizer potential, agitation need, anaerobic need, and what pH range it can stand and still be productive.

If you have not talked to him yet, I suppose I can do it if you'd prefer.

Maybe a stupid question... But..

What happens when that bactaria "escapes" , does my pond become lifeless? Does it eat all organics?