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Author Topic: Magnetic OU principle, You should really take a look at this !  (Read 194678 times)

Butch LaFonte

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Re: From Butch, BEP, I'm still here making very big improvements on PMM
« Reply #420 on: January 13, 2009, 06:13:59 AM »
He said he was applying for a patent. I wished him well and that was the last I expected to hear from him.

Either he realized trying to make use of a supposed gradient was a mistake or he did discover something useful. Either way, I expected that would be the end.
BEP,
There was room for huge improvement on the basic operating principle of the Perpendicular Magnetics Motor.
I made some discoveries during R&D and have been putting them through the paper mill.
You will really get a kick out of the new design.
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Re: Magnetic OU principle, You should really take a look at this !
« Reply #421 on: January 13, 2009, 12:54:54 PM »
Ah!

There you are. Can't wait to see some details  :)

Butch LaFonte

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Re:More than one magnetic code in Perpendicular Magnetics
« Reply #422 on: January 16, 2009, 04:03:12 AM »
Stefan likes to refer to Perpendicular Magnetics as "breaking the magnetic code". In our research we have found three magnetic codes related to Perpendicular Magnetics and we are researching a fourth.
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Re:More than one magnetic code in Perpendicular Magnetics
« Reply #422 on: January 16, 2009, 04:03:12 AM »
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Re:More than one magnetic code in Perpendicular Magnetics
« Reply #423 on: January 16, 2009, 01:13:28 PM »
Stefan likes to refer to Perpendicular Magnetics as "breaking the magnetic code". In our research we have found three magnetic codes related to Perpendicular Magnetics and we are researching a fourth.
Butch LaFonte

Can't wait to see what you find. In my games with perpendicular induction (not the radiant type) I found properties that could be called 'inversions' of common properties. Three were fairly easy to see. The rest are still smoke and mirrors.
Look at magnetics as a point charge and some will probably make more sense.

Edit>>

I should probably say 'a dual point charge' or perhaps 'a dipole charge'. A heretic view, I know.
« Last Edit: January 16, 2009, 01:56:11 PM by BEP »

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Re: Magnetic OU principle, You should really take a look at this !
« Reply #424 on: January 16, 2009, 03:05:45 PM »
Why do you guys call this perpendicular magnetics?  I would think perpendicular magnetics is when two field sources are interacting perpendicular to each other - your just sending the flux diametrically through washers - and only have a single source (or multiple sources acting as one).  Just curious.
« Last Edit: January 16, 2009, 03:57:22 PM by Charlie_V »

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Re: Magnetic OU principle, You should really take a look at this !
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Re: Magnetic OU principle, You should really take a look at this !
« Reply #425 on: January 16, 2009, 11:04:38 PM »
That term was coined by another. I just go with the flow. It does fit somewhat.

The actions attempted tend to be perpendicular to the poles.

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Re: Magnetic OU principle, You should really take a look at this !
« Reply #426 on: January 18, 2009, 10:46:48 AM »
Actually this kind of phenomena had been applied on material handling technolgy for sheets metal storage in 90's.

You can take mild steel washers (the kind that does not stay magnetized when magnet is removed) and place them on a vertical wood dowel. Now place a magnet on each side of the washers with the north pole of one facing the south pole of the other. Have a horse shoe shaped flat bar connecting the outer poles of each magnet so that you have a self made horse shoe magnet.
Now move the open air space between the inner poles so that the washers will be between the two faces of the magnets.
Notice that the washers separate from each other. This is because the magnetic path through each washer has the same orientation and they repel each other.
Now notice that the work needed to remove the horse shoe is equal when the washers are together and touching each other or when they are separated. This means that the work available from the separating of the washers is free because the washers separate at a 90 degree angle to the magnetic field or flux flow direction. After testing I posted a series of drawings years ago, but no one bothered to notice this.
Do not allow washers to separate to a point where they go beyond the width of the magnet. They must stay in the space between the pole faces of the two magnets.Remember the wood dowel is at 90 degrees vertical to the horse shoe when the horse shoe is laying flat on a table.
 I have posted to my web page 7 drawings that include a new rotary version using this principle which makes use also of the conservation of angular momentum as part of it's operation. As you know when a mass is rotating in a circle and work is done to make the mass move toward the center axis of rotation the speed of the mass will attempt to increase and the work done on the mass shows up as an increase in the speed and kinetic energy of the rotating mass.
This is done in my design with out having to put additional work into the system.
This should open up a whole new field in overunity permanent magnet and/or electromagnet research and development.
See web page > http://lafonte.fdp.nu
Open folder B00 and look at drawings, Butch10, Butch8, Butch2a, Butch2, Butch11, 1-7-08 A and 1-7-08 D
Also see attached drawing

Thanks,
Butch LaFonte
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Re: Magnetic OU principle, You should really take a look at this !
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Re: Magnetic OU principle, You should really take a look at this !
« Reply #427 on: January 18, 2009, 12:43:31 PM »
Quote from: SoeN date=1232272008
Actually this kind of phenomena had been applied on material handling technolgy for sheets metal storage in 90's.

First of all Butch mentions this himself. And second of all...so what? Maybe you don't understand the point of an invention. He came up with a way to use it as a primemover in a motor or generator. That's a new invention. Even though Tesla invented the induction motor, the idea of magnetic induction wasn't his.

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Re: Magnetic OU principle, You should really take a look at this !
« Reply #428 on: January 18, 2009, 12:55:48 PM »
First of all Butch mentions this himself. And second of all...so what? Maybe you don't understand the point of an invention. He came up with a way to use it as a primemover in a motor or generator. That's a new invention. Even though Tesla invented the induction motor, the idea of magnetic induction wasn't his.

Let's all hope Mr. LaFonte will find something new! Sincerely!

It's just that there is not exactly anything new in his findings... It seems..?

Mr. Butch claims are becoming an "urban legends" material. Check out the claims made by him (his group) in only the last 5 years....

Revolutionary, New, Free energy, just about to deliver, anytime now.....

Ah, well....

How many different concepts there really were?  >:(

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Re: Magnetic OU principle, You should really take a look at this !
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Re: Magnetic OU principle, You should really take a look at this !
« Reply #429 on: January 18, 2009, 01:26:09 PM »
If you're like a little lamb waiting to be fed then that's your problem. Even if he has made all those claims, what do you care? You should have your own goals and desires. Setup your own experiments and see what you learn out of it.

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Re: Magnetic OU principle, You should really take a look at this !
« Reply #430 on: January 18, 2009, 01:55:54 PM »
If you're like a little lamb waiting to be fed then that's your problem. Even if he has made all those claims, what do you care? You should have your own goals and desires. Setup your own experiments and see what you learn out of it.
A lamb to be fed?  ;D  ;)
It seems you're a little fresh in this "OU business", eh??  Ah, nevermind...
You'll learn, sooner or later...

Broli, in the future, check out the facts before saying something... OK?

Mr. LaFonte is like a constant in a FE world. And, how many of his projects came to any kind of realisation (let's say during the last 5 years)? You tell me!?
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Re: Magnetic OU principle, You should really take a look at this !
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Butch LaFonte

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« Reply #431 on: January 21, 2009, 07:50:41 PM »
Let's all hope Mr. LaFonte will find something new! Sincerely!

It's just that there is not exactly anything new in his findings... It seems..?

Mr. Butch claims are becoming an "urban legends" material. Check out the claims made by him (his group) in only the last 5 years....

Revolutionary, New, Free energy, just about to deliver, anytime now.....

Ah, well....

How many different concepts there really were?  >:(
Shortly after the web came on line I started posting my designs and to date have over 2000 I have put out there for the public. Many have been built in Marks shop and my home for testing. Yes I have made claims that I should not have made till I had funds to complete the research and development of the designs. But I never got funding to do that (until recently). So I get excited when I get positive test results and make claims prematurely, well then just take me out back and shoot me. Tell me which is worse, putting out over 2000 designs for the public (that many have filed patents on) and building and testing many of them or someone who's total contribution is making negative comments on a list from time to time using a "screen name".
And to keep the tradition going, we are up loading to Youtube three new videos of a design that with first testing appears to show overunity.
I'll keep putting out designs and building and testing and you can make comments on the lists. I may get lucky and get a true overuntity device, but negative posting never built anything and never will. Anyone can type text for posting, but it's the people that design and build that produce working machines.
Yes, by the way, if you have noticed no one else to date has built an self sustaining overunity device. We are all just hoping, designing, building and trying to spend as little time as possible typing.
Thanks,
Butch LaFonte


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Re: Reply from Butch LaFonte
« Reply #432 on: January 22, 2009, 03:52:52 PM »
...but negative posting never built anything and never will...
We should ask Stefan to get the "Report to moderator" button to do something useful,
and stop these time wasters wasting his data bandwidth as well.

Your record speaks for you, Butch.

Paul.

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Re: Reply from Butch LaFonte
« Reply #433 on: January 24, 2009, 12:51:47 PM »

We should ask Stefan to get the "Report to moderator" button to do something useful,
and stop these time wasters wasting his data bandwidth as well.

Your record speaks for you, Butch.

Paul.

Hey, Mr. LaFonte, sorry for my little critique.... I just wanted to remind you for all the past promisses You've made in the last few years....

Although you may produce "+2000" contributions, it's really just a question of  "quantity over quality"?    Hello??? Ding-dong? Wake up! OK?
Which of your projects shows something widely replicable, something which can be used for (_name it..._).... A single achievement to be mentioned? Yes or No!?? Out of "2000"? At least something like a can-opener? Surely, out of 2000?


I just said I was aware of your work (made public) in the last few years. Due to my skeptical nature, I managed to recognized just a few variations of the SAME concept(s)... Magnetics is funny....  ;D



@Paul-R
Lol. Your proposals are "extraordinary", (since the "Egyptian fulcrum" (the infamous Archer's)  thread).... You showed your understanding, LOL.... A simple lever is an OU device, hehe... Kill the Newtonians etc stuff.... Idiot.
(Precious! I just read your post in the Ltseungs thread, when you say that "TinselKoala has an intelligence of a pack of biscuits....") ;D
Looser!

(Whisper:)  If I were you, I would not questioned someone else's intelligence.... It can "backfire" at you, Oh, great Teacher!



You want a "report to moderator button"? So you can ban people just for their (fair!?) objections? Yes, majesty?
You have something to offer? Just say so...  >:(








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Re: Reply from Butch LaFonte
« Reply #434 on: January 25, 2009, 02:20:20 AM »
OK guys it's enough, let's discusse another thread "Aromaz's Ignition Coil CFL" + "Dynamic Resonant Energy" AROMAS's projects in youtube, in my opinion he is heading to sort of ZPE, hunting for specific frequency to it.

Hey, Mr. LaFonte, sorry for my little critique.... I just wanted to remind you for all the past promisses You've made in the last few years....

Although you may produce "+2000" contributions, it's really just a question of  "quantity over quality"?    Hello??? Ding-dong? Wake up! OK?
Which of your projects shows something widely replicable, something which can be used for (_name it..._).... A single achievement to be mentioned? Yes or No!?? Out of "2000"? At least something like a can-opener? Surely, out of 2000?

I just said I was aware of your work (made public) in the last few years. Due to my skeptical nature, I managed to recognized just a few variations of the SAME concept(s)... Magnetics is funny....  ;D

@Paul-R
Lol. Your proposals are "extraordinary", (since the "Egyptian fulcrum" (the infamous Archer's)  thread).... You showed your understanding, LOL.... A simple lever is an OU device, hehe... Kill the Newtonians etc stuff.... Idiot.
(Precious! I just read your post in the Ltseungs thread, when you say that "TinselKoala has an intelligence of a pack of biscuits....") ;D
Looser!

(Whisper:)  If I were you, I would not questioned someone else's intelligence.... It can "backfire" at you, Oh, great Teacher!

You want a "report to moderator button"? So you can ban people just for their (fair!?) objections? Yes, majesty?
You have something to offer? Just say so...  >:(

 

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