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Author Topic: Magnetic OU principle, You should really take a look at this !  (Read 236657 times)

Butch LaFonte

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Re: Brian
« Reply #525 on: March 28, 2009, 02:25:21 AM »
Brian,
Our group animator Roger did it, I don't know what program he used, I will ask.
Butch

Butch LaFonte

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All segments test successful, new enity posted in magnet motors
« Reply #526 on: March 28, 2009, 02:29:25 AM »
Please see new thread under magnet motors on this list titled, Balanced Rings Rotary Magnet Motor
Thanks,
Butch LaFonte

Charlie_V

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Re: Magnetic OU principle, You should really take a look at this !
« Reply #527 on: May 30, 2009, 06:13:12 AM »
Hello, I realize this thread has been abandoned.  However I have some questions dealing with the original setup.

Does the original setup have the same reluctance with the washers closed verses when they are open?  This answer would save me a lot of time if anyone can answer that.  This was claimed to be the case in the beginning of the thread but I couldn't find where anyone verified this "fact". 

If you close the washers, does it take the same force to remove the magnet as when the washers are open - assuming you do not let the magnet touch the washers (in which case it should be harder to remove since the fanning washers will distribute the force over a larger area). 

Plain and simple question, does the first drawing in the beginning of this thread work the way it says it works?  If it does not, then why.  If it does then please someone must have verified this.  It will save me alot of time having to go back and retrace people's steps.

Thanks,
Charlie

Butch LaFonte

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Re: Magnetic OU principle, You should really take a look at this !
« Reply #528 on: May 30, 2009, 06:47:42 AM »
Hello, I realize this thread has been abandoned.  However I have some questions dealing with the original setup.

Does the original setup have the same reluctance with the washers closed verses when they are open?  This answer would save me a lot of time if anyone can answer that.  This was claimed to be the case in the beginning of the thread but I couldn't find where anyone verified this "fact". 

If you close the washers, does it take the same force to remove the magnet as when the washers are open - assuming you do not let the magnet touch the washers (in which case it should be harder to remove since the fanning washers will distribute the force over a larger area). 

Plain and simple question, does the first drawing in the beginning of this thread work the way it says it works?  If it does not, then why.  If it does then please someone must have verified this.  It will save me alot of time having to go back and retrace people's steps.

Thanks,
Charlie

See this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAxbOQ3nM8w&feature=channel_page
Hope this helps,
Butch

Charlie_V

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Re: Magnetic OU principle, You should really take a look at this !
« Reply #529 on: May 30, 2009, 07:20:58 AM »
So from the video, there is a great difference in reluctance from when the washers are closed verses when they are open.  The claim at the beginning of this thread is wrong and that moving the washers into the field when they are closed is much weaker from when they are allowed to open.

Butch LaFonte

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Re: Magnetic OU principle, You should really take a look at this !
« Reply #530 on: May 30, 2009, 06:09:44 PM »
So from the video, there is a great difference in reluctance from when the washers are closed verses when they are open.  The claim at the beginning of this thread is wrong and that moving the washers into the field when they are closed is much weaker from when they are allowed to open.
Yes, but it works out that is great for the design that has the washers in sliding contact when moving back together. It adds a second overunity element to the design.
See this link > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fW8lgEUJXKc&feature=channel_page
Butch

Charlie_V

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Re: Magnetic OU principle, You should really take a look at this !
« Reply #531 on: May 31, 2009, 02:30:44 AM »
That's a very interesting design but I don't like how you have to pull it apart.  There has to be a better solution.  I can't think of anything at the moment though.  :(

Butch LaFonte

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Re: Magnetic OU principle, You should really take a look at this !
« Reply #532 on: May 31, 2009, 03:10:34 AM »
That's a very interesting design but I don't like how you have to pull it apart.  There has to be a better solution.  I can't think of anything at the moment though.  :(
Pull what apart???? The elements (washers) repel each other and work can be done with that repulsion force.
I have rotary designs on this principle on the web also.
Butch

Charlie_V

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Re: Magnetic OU principle, You should really take a look at this !
« Reply #533 on: June 01, 2009, 05:50:32 AM »
In the video you show the washers in contact with two pieces of iron.  You pull the iron away from the washers.  But nevermind I get it, pretty cool indeed. 

Charlie

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Re: Magnetic OU principle, You should really take a look at this !
« Reply #534 on: March 04, 2010, 11:57:12 AM »
Have a look at thi

A good site hosted on A just got removed the authors were Magluvin and second Gotoluc.

Search on google their youtube channel still exists.  http://www.youtube.com/user/Magluvin

A long vortex coil coil with twin windings are shown and generate good result yet small unlike 2SGEN nicely made by Naudin.  http://jnaudin.free.fr/2SGen/indexen.htm
My idea would be to:

Using a one metre soft iron wire wound with a copper winding all along and then made into a spiral should become an ideal wall between two magnets and a coil to generate a variable magnetic field in a coil to generate current. passing a square wave at high frequeny will give great results like Naudin should work and setup will be cheap.

ramset

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Re: Magnetic OU principle, You should really take a look at this !
« Reply #535 on: March 04, 2010, 03:00:15 PM »
Pops
What are you saying about removed on "A"??

Thanks
Chet

Groundloop

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Re: Magnetic OU principle, You should really take a look at this !
« Reply #536 on: March 04, 2010, 03:23:05 PM »
@ramset,

thi = this
A = Youtube

Both sites are up and running. (Gotoluc and Magluvin).

http://www.youtube.com/user/Gotoluc
http://www.youtube.com/user/Magluvin

Groundloop.

Hope

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Re: Magnetic OU principle, You should really take a look at this !
« Reply #537 on: August 31, 2010, 07:55:20 AM »
This idea seems so under appreciated.   This plate separation method shows us a possible way Ed Leeds... moved all that coral alone.   Don't stop on this device, maybe it will lead you to stacking magnetic charges or something important like that.  Beside it seems a simple way to cancel emf, and even drive out (flux) charges from any item and if you only allow the charges to be collected on plates then we can get that machine we all want.

newton2

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TRANSDUCTOR....and "Orb.....".....
« Reply #538 on: February 21, 2011, 05:48:22 PM »
dato 2011-02-21    Hi.......!

The Past Technics Times of the TRANSDUCTOR......interesting Litteratures.....even also such TRANDUCTOR-Methods show properties like the "Mythologically Promised dynamical parametrical" Properties of a surden "Orb............"......!

still are Elder Technical Litteratures concerning Principles of TRASUCTORS....and even in Present Times of All-Electronics-ruling-the-World" are surden TRANSDUCORS still in practics......!

WKR