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Paul-R

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Re: Hubbard coil
« Reply #330 on: January 04, 2011, 03:01:49 PM »
There's a snag with Hubbard. Iron tube is pretty much unobtainable.
And too many suppliers don't know the difference between iron
and steel. Even wrought iron is often steel.

Does anyone knopw where to get iron tube?

forest

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Re: Hubbard coil
« Reply #331 on: January 04, 2011, 07:34:04 PM »
Paul-R

How can we distinguish  them ?

quarktoo

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Re: Hubbard coil
« Reply #332 on: January 05, 2011, 02:13:50 AM »
Paul-R

How can we distinguish  them ?

Why would you bother. The properties of the inductor are what matter, not what it is made of.

Secondly, to suggest the Hubbard coil would be impossible without cast iron is silly. Hubbard appeared to use welding rods in his inductors from the photos.

The term iron is used pretty loosely. Steel is 100% iron with a carbon treatment.

sigma16

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Re: Hubbard coil
« Reply #333 on: January 05, 2011, 05:02:24 AM »
If the Hubbard coil is magnetic in any way, why the distributor?  Sounds like he was applying some HV to each of the outer coils sequentially.

Any mention of a static magnetic field in this device, or a car battery to start it?  Ah- ha! striking the cores!


quarktoo

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Re: Hubbard coil
« Reply #334 on: January 05, 2011, 08:09:21 AM »
If the Hubbard coil is magnetic in any way, why the distributor?  Sounds like he was applying some HV to each of the outer coils sequentially.

Any mention of a static magnetic field in this device, or a car battery to start it?  Ah- ha! striking the cores!


Oh, it's you Grumpy. You're back like a bar slut with a drug resistant strain of the clap. Miss me? :-)

Drunken bar slut said:
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If the Hubbard coil is magnetic in any way, why the distributor?  Sounds like he was applying some HV to each of the outer coils sequentially.

You need a inductive element for the supercurrent to exist in and the spark gap is probably used to charge up (accelerate) the supercurrent. That would be my guess if the distributor was there at all.

I have doing a bit of research on this subject today and think I will have to pass on the Hubbard build for now. Barbat seems to be the only authority on this subject willing to disclose.

http://www.levitronicsenergy.com/science.htm

I love this quote since he is alluding to my statement that electricity is a result of mass to atomic energy conversion:

Barbat said:
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This overlooked energy source can be harnessed by knowing that inductive energy is not conveyed by magnetic lines of force but by directional photon energy.

Barbat also states that the center coil acts like a radio transmit antenna which I agree.

I also think Barbat missed a much easier method to accomplish his objective. Lead tartrate and Iron would have to be two of the cheaper things on the planet. Resonate the iron at 21.5MHZ and I think the subsequent BETA emission would give you something interesting.

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/20100304976.pdf

Here is another quote from Barbat which validates what I have been preaching to deaf ears:

"Because LMEs accelerate faster than normal electrons, they radiate extra energy from any acceleration they receive. Larmor (1) showed that photon energy radiates from a moving charge in proportion to the square of its acceleration. Superconductors, with an electron mass 1/10,000 that of normal electrons (2) are accelerated 10,000 times faster than normal, so the centripetal acceleration of a supercurrent around a closed superconducting coil gives off a calculated 10,000 X 10,000 = 100,000,000 times more energy (acceleration squared) than is used to charge up the supercurrent ."


E=MC2
E=MC2
E=MC2
« Last Edit: January 05, 2011, 08:48:24 AM by quarktoo »

Paul-R

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Re: Hubbard coil
« Reply #335 on: January 05, 2011, 02:45:51 PM »
Paul-R

How can we distinguish  them ?
It is difficult.

Iron does not rust very much. It can be found as fence posts installed between
the wars, and is not made much these days. Lab suppliers can deliver at fabulous
cost. Sometimes used in rod form for welding.

If you came across a big enough supply, you could make a rig based on a coil
magnetising a sample in the form of a core. Iron sheds its magnetism quickly
whereas steel does not (which is a crucial property, of course).

forest

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Re: Hubbard coil
« Reply #336 on: January 05, 2011, 02:56:10 PM »
Tubes used today by plumbers are steel or iron ?

ramset

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Re: Hubbard coil
« Reply #337 on: January 05, 2011, 04:33:36 PM »
Sir Buzz
You have no idea how hard it was for this "Pin head" not to Bite that bait!

Good to see you sir!
I don't know if we have enough room for Two Craniums that size?

Band width issues!

Wow!!,
You've achieved Omnipotence!,A supreme being!!
Elite ,even!!
Chet

sigma16

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Re: Hubbard coil
« Reply #338 on: January 05, 2011, 05:09:53 PM »

Oh, it's you Grumpy. You're back like a bar slut with a drug resistant strain of the clap. Miss me? :-)

Drunken bar slut said:
You need a inductive element for the supercurrent to exist in and the spark gap is probably used to charge up (accelerate) the supercurrent. That would be my guess if the distributor was there at all.

I have doing a bit of research on this subject today and think I will have to pass on the Hubbard build for now. Barbat seems to be the only authority on this subject willing to disclose.

http://www.levitronicsenergy.com/science.htm

I love this quote since he is alluding to my statement that electricity is a result of mass to atomic energy conversion:

Barbat said:
Barbat also states that the center coil acts like a radio transmit antenna which I agree.

I also think Barbat missed a much easier method to accomplish his objective. Lead tartrate and Iron would have to be two of the cheaper things on the planet. Resonate the iron at 21.5MHZ and I think the subsequent BETA emission would give you something interesting.

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/20100304976.pdf

Here is another quote from Barbat which validates what I have been preaching to deaf ears:

"Because LMEs accelerate faster than normal electrons, they radiate extra energy from any acceleration they receive. Larmor (1) showed that photon energy radiates from a moving charge in proportion to the square of its acceleration. Superconductors, with an electron mass 1/10,000 that of normal electrons (2) are accelerated 10,000 times faster than normal, so the centripetal acceleration of a supercurrent around a closed superconducting coil gives off a calculated 10,000 X 10,000 = 100,000,000 times more energy (acceleration squared) than is used to charge up the supercurrent ."


E=MC2
E=MC2
E=MC2

If you built half of the crap you talk about, you would know that your drunken slurs about "mass to energy conversion" are incorrect.  Loser Wannabe.  Kudos on the Troll Site.  Nice to know you love us so much.

ramset

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Re: Hubbard coil
« Reply #339 on: January 05, 2011, 05:21:46 PM »
                        WOW a dust up?
                   A steel cage match?
                Its not even friday![not good ].
    An Unsanctioned,  ladders tables and chairs!
                     No holds barred event??
                                Chet

forest

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Re: Hubbard coil
« Reply #340 on: January 05, 2011, 05:30:33 PM »
The most important for me was article where Hubbard said something about Hendershot device. He had stated that Hendershot copied his own device.

quarktoo

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Re: Hubbard coil
« Reply #341 on: January 05, 2011, 06:17:14 PM »
It is difficult.

Iron does not rust very much. It can be found as fence posts installed between
the wars, and is not made much these days. Lab suppliers can deliver at fabulous
cost. Sometimes used in rod form for welding.

If you came across a big enough supply, you could make a rig based on a coil
magnetising a sample in the form of a core. Iron sheds its magnetism quickly
whereas steel does not (which is a crucial property, of course).

How about black sand and some epoxy resin?

Dragging a magnet around in about any soil will yield black sand. Place that in a thrift shop blender to break it down (it shatters nicely) then use a magnet to get the good stuff. Mix it into an epoxy paste and align it with a magnet while it cures. I think at that point you have what amounts to a ferrite rod.

That statement made about how iron does not "hold its magnetisim" is correct. It is the permanency property of an inductor. Ever notice that the laminates of a core also do not have much permanency? It has more to do with how the steel is made than what it is composed of. It is all made from IRON but the grain is prevented from growing in electrical steel.

Amidon makes ferrite rods and could give you something that best mimics Iron.

https://www.amidoncorp.com/categories/6

ramset

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Re: Hubbard coil
« Reply #342 on: January 05, 2011, 07:13:47 PM »
I still can't believe your here??
Like a reincarnation on steroids!!

Sad about the Birds and the fish,couldn't they have started with Cockroaches and Liberals?[Liberals = a state of mind not ethnicity]

Anyhow I have to go out to the store now and get more "Depends".

Chet

« Last Edit: January 05, 2011, 08:59:06 PM by ramset »

ramset

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Re: Hubbard coil
« Reply #343 on: January 05, 2011, 10:39:01 PM »
SOooooo.....
Elite guys always build stuff!!
Watcha gonna build??

A responce to the Barbat patent thread at poynts place,
user "itworks" [first and only post thus far]

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Chet, the name is Joseph Larmor. Larmor, J. 1897. "On the Theory of Magnetic Influence of Spectra; and on the Radiation From Moving Ions." Phil. Mag 63:503-512.
Larmor showed that photon energy is radiated from a moving charge in proportion to the square of the charge's acceleration. Thus, a charge of lower mass, e.g. a low-mass electron, accelerates more quickly than one of "normal" mass, and therefore radiates proportionally more energy for the same inductive force.
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Paul-R

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Re: Hubbard coil
« Reply #344 on: January 05, 2011, 11:08:59 PM »
Tubes used today by plumbers are steel or iron ?
Steel; actually more likely to be plastic or copper.

There is a firm selling piling material for making
building foundations but they can't be bothered
to answer my emails.