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Offline Grumpy

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Re: Hubbard coil
« Reply #165 on: July 20, 2008, 05:10:02 PM »
"Inertia" is a side effect of a "change" propagating through the meduim - call it the ether, aether, space/time, void, potential, scalar field, or whatever.

This propagation occurs when matter moves (this motion is by propagation) or when a changing is propagated.

For example, when you wave your hand through the air or water, the air or water (this is the medium that you are changing) keeps moving after your hand is removed.

If the "inertia" effect of the TPU was "magnetic", then why isn't this experienced in non-mechanical magnetic devices?  Because it is not a magnetic phenomenon.  "Inertia" is associated with moving masses.  See, when you move an object, you are changing the "medium" (aether or whatever), hence the inertial effect.

Now suppose you change the medium without moving an object to do it...like those electrostatic air cleaner things that only have charge plates and no moving parts.

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Re: Hubbard coil
« Reply #166 on: July 20, 2008, 07:00:07 PM »
Yeah...
Alex speaks:  The answer is simple - magnetostriction,
and yes - true - the only known gyroscopic effect ...
My knowledge speaks that magnetostriction possible only when ferromagnetic materials and magnetostriction devices included always pm magnet,
At that SM told in published this forum letter : we have spent $10k for neodymium magnets ...
Now you are telling - no ferrous! No magnets!
Who told that no? You think? OK, I respect your opinion but why you dont respekt me?
I dont understand why such standoffish mentality - Im trying to understand this principle like you, is it bad when I do opine my vision? Have monitored more than year your discussions about,
- replicated! ...uncovered! ...complete information! .... undrestood! ...
Please forgive but WHERE; WHEN and HOW???? Perhaps Im stupid but I dont see not any working units.
I have read lot of strange things - every new "Uncovered-Man" starts to speak like Saint-Petrus, like Prophet from Pible ... Is it playhouse, like Theatre?
And after some weeks - nothing!
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Re: Hubbard coil
« Reply #167 on: July 21, 2008, 01:27:42 AM »
Howdy Y'all,

The Infinity Core is wound.  All I have to do is connect the wires and crank it up.  I have about 28 hours of labor in it at this point.  This could be improved considerably if I had a Power Miter Box and a solenoid winder.  Yeah I did all the machine work with a hack saw and a file.  All the windings were done by hand, all 18 of them.  I documented the build in the Infinity Coil thread.  The wound coil weights 17 pounds.

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Re: Hubbard coil
« Reply #168 on: July 21, 2008, 01:47:15 AM »
Z WOW you don't mess around!! she's a beauty!!  Now the good stuff  Chet

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Re: Hubbard coil
« Reply #169 on: July 21, 2008, 02:05:27 AM »
Find the right frequency and PFFFFFTTT!

Seriously, you be careful. There is an awful lot of copper there. You got transformer to drive that? I would bet so.

Someone that goes to the bench with vision! So I take it you are going to use magnetize steel as core flux?

I am still at the mill grinding out windings.

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Re: Hubbard coil
« Reply #170 on: July 21, 2008, 12:55:22 PM »
Howdy GiantKiller,

This coil is not going to be driven.  We are going to give it a pulse of DC to start it.  The idea here is the when you apply direct current to the coils in a loop you are going to magnetize the cores.  Just a static magnetic field.  All the cores are saturated with a static magnetic field.  One second later you release the DC current.  All the coils immediately self discharge sending ripples of energy around the infinite loop. At first this is chaos, but after a few moments the energy will self organize and the physical properties of the coil configuration will cause the energy to ring in the circuit at a specific frequency.  EMD, Sort of like ringing a bell.  The physical properties of the cores and coils will cause this circuit to seek self resonance.  This starts the reaction in the infinity coil.  There are more subtle forces that keep it going ad infinitum...

Here is a new pic of the wired core...

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Offline EMdevices

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Re: Hubbard coil
« Reply #171 on: July 21, 2008, 02:40:05 PM »
that's a beautiful description  (and build)  z.monkey,  good job!

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Re: Hubbard coil
« Reply #172 on: July 21, 2008, 05:06:45 PM »
http://rifehealth.com/_wsn/page2.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8stApCmxYEM&feature=related
And this runs itself..

Coral Castle: Magnetic Compression in the offset center.
Same action as Bedini, Muller.

@z.monkey,
watch your input volt meter. I saw -1500dc when effect was present.

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« Last Edit: July 21, 2008, 05:41:32 PM by giantkiller »

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Re: Hubbard coil
« Reply #173 on: July 22, 2008, 04:20:08 AM »
Needs 2 more coils and structural supports. currently held by magnets.
outer coils are 40' ea. of bifilar steel & copper.
center coil will be 40' copper 2x diam of outer.

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Re: Hubbard coil
« Reply #174 on: July 22, 2008, 12:17:36 PM »
Howdy GiantKiller,

Whoa!  It looks just like the 3D image you made a week or so ago.  I had been thinking about making a iron filing and epoxy slug core in the shape of your green wires.  Are the green wires ferrous?  That is pretty cool!

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Re: Hubbard coil
« Reply #175 on: July 22, 2008, 01:39:45 PM »
Yeah...
Alex speaks:  The answer is simple - magnetostriction,
and yes - true - the only known gyroscopic effect ...
My knowledge speaks that magnetostriction possible only when ferromagnetic materials and magnetostriction devices included always pm magnet,
At that SM told in published this forum letter : we have spent $10k for neodymium magnets ...

Magnetostriction is not the only known source of a gyroscopic effect.

                             
Magnetostriction:
Linear effect          deforms length and twist both directions with alternating the energy applied   requires magnetic bias

Electrostriction:
Quadrature effect    deforms height and width in one direction only with alternating energy applied    requires magnetic bias

Basically, Electrostriction can be squeezed around a ring. There are many ideas that seem to fit the SM descriptions. Pursue the one that seems best to you.

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Re: Hubbard coil
« Reply #176 on: July 22, 2008, 01:50:05 PM »
Yeah, nice setup using garden hardware, chainlink fence made from at my home, Unfortunately this zinc-coated (+PVC) steel wire has very  wrong magnetic properties as core. Iron powder, even with epoxy, is much better (when reduced iron and used differnt fractions), but ...
... I dont know - is it too expensive for OU folk  - I have bought many years total huge quantity:
http://www.cwsbytemark.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=206&zenid=421befllb3vvhb1cqt8cputvu2
I use most of all Micrometals mix 26  because material properties most close to my needs  (especially AL mH/Sq.N), but sometimes high flux cores too,
http://www.cwsbytemark.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=206_217
for example T520  - huge core! - OD-5.2", ID-3.08", h-0.8
This material is easy to gut, to mill, turn on the lathe, drilling holes ... I have exelent CNC mill now but before I did all with Sherline mill + rotary table,
The best tools for cut it are carbide bits, mostly they have 1/8 shank:
Like Irwin 1/8" Carbide Ceramic Tile Drill Bits - Rotozip eBay Item number: 360071718108 - when bigger cuts and holes
Like 1.90mm carbide router burrs, diamond cut   Item number: 180167291446 when smaller things,
Its not like Ferrite - much more softer.
All coming grinding/dust  I do collect and use later when what ever ideas to try  - mixed with epoxy and molded ...
Regards,
khabe
« Last Edit: July 22, 2008, 02:18:27 PM by khabe »

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Re: Hubbard coil
« Reply #177 on: July 22, 2008, 02:05:24 PM »
Magnetostriction is not the only known source of a gyroscopic effect.

                             
Magnetostriction:
Linear effect          deforms length and twist both directions with alternating the energy applied   requires magnetic bias

Electrostriction:
Quadrature effect    deforms height and width in one direction only with alternating energy applied    requires magnetic bias

Basically, Electrostriction can be squeezed around a ring. There are many ideas that seem to fit the SM descriptions. Pursue the one that seems best to you.
You right -> my poor english + I was angry ;-)  =  caused this misunderstanding - I tried to tell that when we are speaking about SM TPU - then the only known source of a gyroscopic effect,
(assumed that SM TPO does not consist flywheels or even nothing what associates with ?pieso?) But Electrostriction is not "feelable" (my own therm?) by human hands.
Because I started with my question: any known and successfully done experiment wheres no gyro wheels, where handy felt gyroskopic effect ...
Nothing more,
khabe

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Re: Hubbard coil
« Reply #178 on: July 22, 2008, 03:04:32 PM »
nice build GK,  you probably already thought of this, but squizing those loops inward will strengthen the mag field somewhat, or else it can be a great tunning mechanism.


@all,

Experimental Results:     I hooked up a coil to a variable capacitor and started tunning.     The coil has about 40 turns and it's wound on a plastic piece with a diameter of 10 cm perhaps.  The coil is wound in a single layer and it's height is about 1.5 cm or so.   Anyway,  around this I have a toroidal winding made with lamp cord, so it has two conductors, however, I connect the conductors in series.   Now here's the interesting part.    I was watching on the scope to see if I tune in any unsual stations or resonance, and it appears I am, as I turn the variable capacitor there is a frequency always present that changes.  This seemed puzling to me, what sets up the oscillations I thought?   Then zooming out, I noticed they start suddenly and decay away  (max voltage at start point about 0.25 volts). Almost as if an impulse triggers the oscillations, which ofcourse varry in frequency depending on the variable capacitance.  Then zooming out some more I notice the pattern repeats, every 8.3 ms, which implies every 120 Hz.   So an impulse every 120 Hz triggers and pumps my resonant tank. Isn't that interesting.      Something is causing these impulses and triggering the oscillations of my tank circuit, (loop antenna and capacitor) and it appears to be the second harmonic of the 60 Hz power grid, but what is it?    Can somebody else do this simple experiment and see if they see the same thing?   I'm not sure where it's comming from, the power lines in my community are underground and I even performed this experiment with all the lights off in the house.  Right now I'm thinking if I can get that much voltage, well with a bit of engineering I should be able to pull energy right out of the thin "air"    LOL

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Re: Hubbard coil
« Reply #179 on: July 22, 2008, 03:20:01 PM »
Howdy Y'all,

EMDevices, 60 Hz is everywhere, even with the lights off.  It is more than the AC wires it is the earth resonating with the AC distribution grid.  When I was experimenting with the Soft Particle Reactor I noticed this.  I have a neon lamp and a florescent lamp above my bench.  The neon lamp made sharp noise that had a decaying ring wave form.  I turn that off the interference goes away.  Then I had a small amplitude sine wave interference.  When I turned off the florescent lamp that went away, almost.  There was still a tiny 60 Hz sinewave in my wave form which was probably the power strip and a few other things still attached to AC on my bench.  You take take parasitic power off the grid with a 60 Hz tank.  Big iron inductor and a cap to make the circuit resonate at 60 Hz...

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