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Offline aleks

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Re: Hubbard coil
« Reply #15 on: July 05, 2008, 02:59:30 PM »
I do not know it this is relevant, but here is some WIPO patent that also refers to Hubbard coil:
http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?wo=2007103020&IA=WO2007103020&DISPLAY=DESC

Hah, there's more:
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/7379286.html

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Free energy (overunity) can be solely described and achieved by inducing space non-linearity - the same as created by gravity. Since gravity creates a field of length standard deviation, any energy that enters into this field undergoes "length standard shift" which shifts EM energy spectrum and also increases kinetic energy of a body. If gravity field can be created at will, without reaction from energies and bodies that are present in the gravity field, the said energies and bodies can be accelerated and decelerated at will. Thus, no quantum mechanics ZPE is required to define source of overunity.
« Last Edit: July 05, 2008, 03:42:41 PM by aleks »

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Re: Hubbard coil
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Re: Hubbard coil
« Reply #16 on: July 05, 2008, 05:53:57 PM »
Great find Aleks

The first patent should be downloaded with drawings, a must read for everyone and answers many questions about the possible operational theory of SM's units.. I was amazed to see Fig 3, page 4/12 resembling SM's and Fig 6 page7/12 resembling Hubbard. The inductive central coil in fig 3 would definitely run hot.

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Re: Hubbard coil
« Reply #17 on: July 05, 2008, 08:10:52 PM »
One more idea... Windings on all iron-magnet core pairs should be wound in equal direction (CW or CCW), from top to bottom (or bottom to top). This is to ensure "magnetic current" that is held in the device goes in the same direction in all cores/windings. This will probably create "struggle" I was mentioning (current in adjacent cores will be obviously going in opposite directions).

It is also possible to use all iron cores, but interconnect them with permanent magnet bridges, as shown.


Yes sir! Just slip 22awg rat shack coils over the the iron wire bundles and you got Ed.L. for starters. Sure beats winding, eh? Throw in a air gap or 2. Bettery yet make a iron wire ring with an air gap and magnet. Damn simple.

Very sound direction here. Can use flux flow or current flow.

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Re: Hubbard coil
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Re: Hubbard coil
« Reply #18 on: July 05, 2008, 09:22:38 PM »
I do not know it this is relevant, but here is some WIPO patent that also refers to Hubbard coil:
http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?wo=2007103020&IA=WO2007103020&DISPLAY=DESC

Hah, there's more:
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/7379286.html
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Hi All,

I am surprised to read in the above first patent that Hubbard (and later Hendershot too) used radium to enhance current in the wires...  Well then does this mean we are chasing an impossible task, for without radium we will never have extra output from the Hubbard coil setup???

rgds,  Gyula

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Re: Hubbard coil
« Reply #19 on: July 05, 2008, 11:40:34 PM »
Hi Gyala

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I am surprised to read in the above first patent that Hubbard (and later Hendershot too) used radium to enhance current in the wires...  Well then does this mean we are chasing an impossible task, for without radium we will never have extra output from the Hubbard coil setup???


The author seems to imply in the patent that a photoconductive layer of cupric oxide can act somewhat as a superconductor by allowing low mass electrons from photon bombardment to achieve higher than normal velocities in an oscillating circuit.  There is an energy gain since in standard transformer action normal mass electrons never seem to exceed velocities greater than the photons inducing energy. If their wire was from overhead utility electrical salvage it may have had a nice coating of cupric oxide. Maybe there is still hope.

from the patent:

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The output coil is situated to receive the magnified inductive-photon energy from the energy-magnifying coil. The inductive-photon energy received by the output coil, which is comprised of a metallic conductor, is converted into an oscillating electrical current of normal electrons. In order for the electrical output to exceed the electrical input, the output coil is situated in such a manner that it receives more of the magnified inductive-photon energy than that which is directed back against the sending coil to act as a back-force. This "energy leverage" causes the electrical energy output to exceed the input.

This recent patent is a wild ride, replete with references and quite a good read, all 91 pages. If most everything the author says is factual, a lot of missing links are found. Should be easy to replicate without radioactive materials, that was just one other way to do it.

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Re: Hubbard coil
« Reply #20 on: July 05, 2008, 11:51:08 PM »

see http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2255.0.html

I'm stalled with this project, but still very very interested. New enthusiasts are welcome!

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Re: Hubbard coil
« Reply #21 on: July 06, 2008, 05:17:25 AM »
Cupric Oxide?

Kinda like the conductor in lamp cord used to be? The way almost all copper wire was made up until the 50/60s. The way copper surely was on the original Cook coils? That is annealed and not drawn again so they maintained flexibility. Current wire is annealed with the new process that does not include oxygen so the copper will not turn black. The old conductors would turn black easily.

If you want to try annealed copper heat it to a dull cherry red and let cool on its own. Don't quench it. If you heat it right and long enough the black stuff will appear.
It flakes off easily. No matter, the good stuff is under it. It is known in the PC board biz as 'Red Plague'. Also known as the first photocell. It is sensitive to more than light.

Any SM words about TPUs working better with rust or oxides formed or working better over time or better after it got hot the first time?

I'll see if these words mean anything. I had just finished annealing copper band for my next experiment when that great reading patent link was posted.

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Add a picture since kids camera is here - garage not workbench. No flames allowed in the house!

 
« Last Edit: July 06, 2008, 06:07:55 AM by BEP »

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Re: Hubbard coil
« Reply #22 on: July 06, 2008, 09:47:45 AM »
I am surprised to read in the above first patent that Hubbard (and later Hendershot too) used radium to enhance current in the wires...  Well then does this mean we are chasing an impossible task, for without radium we will never have extra output from the Hubbard coil setup???

Please read more thoroughly that same patent:
"Radioactive-decay energy can be eliminated as the main power source because about 10^8 times more radium than the entire world's supply would have been needed to equal Hubbard's reported electric energy output of 330 amperes and 124 volts."

So, it's plainly laid out that radioactivity is not a source of energy.

In my opinion this Hubbard coil - if it can be made to work - is one of the simplest OU devices I've seen so far. Information about it is scarce, but it seems that beside these 9+1 coils that device only had a voltage transformer of sorts. So, if you skip "power conditioning" aspect, you are left with 9+1 coils only, without electronics of any kind. Too good to be true.

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Re: Hubbard coil
« Reply #23 on: July 06, 2008, 10:17:51 AM »
Also, where's the source of info there are bifilar coils installed?

A correction to my own doubt. Patent quotes Hubbard speaking about his generator: "It is made up of a group of eight electro-magnets, each with primary and secondary windings of copper wire, which are arranged around a large steel core. The core likewise has a single winding. About the entire group of cells is a secondary winding."

And about CW and CCW windings, these are different than I'm thinking myself:
"The only connectors visible on the drawing were between the outer windings of the eight electromagnet coils. Theses connectors show that the direction of the windings alternated between clockwise and counterclockwise on adjacent coils, so that the polarity of each electromagnet would have been opposite to that of its adjacent neighbors." Then again, it's a speculation of the patent Applicant.
« Last Edit: July 06, 2008, 10:39:21 AM by aleks »

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Re: Hubbard coil
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Re: Hubbard coil
« Reply #24 on: July 07, 2008, 10:37:35 AM »
@all

I am curious.....

1. Take the original photo, turn it on its side.
2. Instead of 6" long iron rods, make them 6" diameter copper rings, wound in the same manner.
3. Stack these one on top of the other in order.
4. Compare the resultant against SM's coil descriptions.

Am I nuts, or do they match exactly?

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Re: Hubbard coil
« Reply #25 on: July 07, 2008, 01:24:57 PM »
Howdy Y'all,

Thanks for the Praise on the Soft Particle Reactor EMDevices.  I have a significant amount of time in that project.  It looks like I am fixing to build another coil also.

This is an excerpt from the book The Ultimate Reality by Joseph H. Cater.

"During the time of his demonstrations, Hubbard made a sketch of one of his smaller generators used for ordinary electrical appliances (see Fig. 28).  It was approximately 6 inches long and and 5 inches in diameter.  It consisted of eight coils in series, wound on iron cores which in turn surrounded a slightly larger central coil.  The central coil was wound on a hollow tube which contained many small rods.  They were, undoubtedly, comprised of soft iron.  Four terminals extended from the unit.  Two of them represented the outer coils which received the input current, the other two came from the central coil".

"It is highly significant that both wires used in the generator appeared to be of heavy gauge, like those used in telephone or power lines with the same kind of insulation.  Each core had only one layer of this wire.  This means that only a moderate number of turns were used in the entire generator."

There seems to be two different stories about the Hubbard Coil.  One is the pre-intervention version which is an electromagnetic device which is a self sustaining electric generator.  The other is post-intervention version where Hubbard claimed to have used radium to power the generator.  He did work for the Radium Chemical Company and obviously tried at one point to incorporate radium into the device.  The original reports of the boat on Portage Bay in 1919 have no mention of radium.  This leads me to believe that the original device was purely electromagnetic.  I read somewhere that Hubbard claimed to have had an Angelic vision which instructed him to build the device.  I believe that this divine inspiration of the "Self Sustaining Electric Generator" is what we are looking for.  After Hubbard had constructed the device and tried to either sell it or obtain funding for his research is when things went awry.  Whether it was the money, women, or partying Hubbard seemed to loose interest in his coil.  It could also have been pressure by some force that does not appear in the documentation, because this force "edited" the documents to protect the guilty.  Considering the nature of the documents (Seattle Post articles) this editing was done in real time, meaning this force was always close to Hubbard.  So what we need here and now, in order to replicate his work, is the original Angelic vision in order to clarify what Hubbard's Coil really is.

From Cater's book I understand that Hubbard did not use magnet wire.  The thin insulation on the magnet wire limits the flux that develops around the individual wires and causes the flux to rotate around the entire coil.  By using wire with a thicker insulation we get more flux around each individual wire.  This also allows more current to flow in the coil.  Traditional laws of inductance may not apply to the Hubbard Coil.  I think the type of wire, and the core construction are key to replicating this device.

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Re: Hubbard coil
« Reply #26 on: July 07, 2008, 02:23:05 PM »
Interesting parallels I've found between that WIPO patent (http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?wo=2007103020&IA=WO2007103020&DISPLAY=DESC)
and PMH. PMH seemingly recreates a super-conduction state. This patent also talks about superconductors used as "magnifiers" of electric current.

Another "energy from vacuum" patent I've mentioned above ( http://www.freepatentsonline.com/7379286.html ) reminds me of the recent Arata cold fusion demonstration. They also have pressurized gas that is pressed into ZrO2?Pd powder substance. Powdered substances naturally have "Casimir cavities" in them.

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« Reply #27 on: July 07, 2008, 04:02:03 PM »
I'm not sure what I was thinking, or what I read, but I re-read what I posted up top, and the main coil is not on the outside, but on the inside of the eight coils.  It's still the same phenomena at work though, and nothing much changes.   Another way to think about this device is something like a SEARL generator. The eight coils around the perimeter bounce the magnetic field between themselves at high speeds and due to winding directions, ratio of turns between primary and secondary, etc..,  there is a preferential direction of ROTATION.  This induces the pulsing DC in the center coil without significanly degrading the trapped magnetic field, much like the permanent magnetic holder (PMH).    At least that's my understanding at the moment, and I'm working on duplicating it.   
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« Reply #28 on: July 07, 2008, 04:23:19 PM »
Howdy Y'all,

EMDevices, so you are saying that we should pulse the external coils sequentially causing a rotating magnetic field around the central coil.  The Ultimate Reality says that the external coils are wired in series.  Think about this, as you introduce a pulse to the external coils wired in series the voltage in each sequential coil is going to lag behind the one before it.  If we were sending AC through the coils the current would lead the voltage by 90 degrees.  This would cause the voltage in each coil to come up in a sequence around the device.  If it is 2 phase AC then this would happen from both ends.  Two coils on opposite side of the device would come up to full voltage, then the next two coils in sequence would come up to full voltage, then the next two and the the next two.  The AC would cause the magnetic field to rotate around the device.  I built an frequency generator which used a bridge power amplifier and it can drive 2 phase AC.  I'll attach the schematic.  Hubbard must have used some sort of tube oscillator to do this, seeing as how he didn't have semiconductors to do it.  My analog driver board has a sinewave generator that feeds the bridge amplifier.  You can vary the frequency of the sinewave by altering the values of C1, C2, R1, and R2.

I am really starting to groove with this now.

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« Reply #29 on: July 07, 2008, 04:32:28 PM »
EMDevices, so you are saying that we should pulse the external coils sequentially causing a rotating magnetic field around the central coil.
I've got an impression you do not need ANY pulsing or active electronics at all here. Pulses are induced automatically, and they are probably high-freq pulses. So, all you need is "power conditoning" - AC/DC rectifier and voltage transformer. This is what Hubbard's generator had beside coil arrangement itself.

 

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