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Offline EMdevices

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Hubbard coil
« on: July 01, 2008, 11:03:36 PM »
Don't underestimate the "FORCE",  the magnetic field when "cornered" will "bite" and "snap" with violent fury !!!      



>>>While the device has been patented, the claims for it are so broad that Hubbard says he does not feel safe in making public his secret.  In general, he says, it is made up of a group of eight electro-magnets, each with primary and secondary windings of copper wire, which are arranged around a large steel core.  The core likewise has a single winding.  A coil thus constructed, he says, is lifeless until given an initial impulse.  This is done by connecting the ends of its windings for a fraction of a second to an ordinary[two words unreadable R.L.R.] -ing circuit, he says.<<<  

quote from here:    http://www.rexresearch.com/hubbard/hubbard.htm

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Hubbard coil
« on: July 01, 2008, 11:03:36 PM »

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Re: Hubbard coil
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2008, 02:59:10 AM »
The following figure shows the typical model of a transmission line, with the inductance and capacitance per unit of length (lossless so no resistance included)

Then we see a coupled transformer line, which is what the Hubbard coil could be utilizing (I don't believe the radium story, it's a cover up I think)

But the real intriguing phenomena is to realize what happens when the magnetic field is "cornered" or "trapped".   In other words,  consider an inductor that has current flowing through it.   If that current is suddenly interrupted (and really it can't)  the voltage spikes really high. 

The underlying phenomena here is really deeper.    A current through a coil sets up a magnetic field, and if the current is interrupted, the magnetic field will collapse.  However, as it collapses, it induces a voltage (electromotive force) in the wires IN SUCH A DIRECTION TO KEEP THE CURRENT FLOWING SO THE FIELD GETS MAINTAINED.  It's a type of "inertia".  In other words, this is Lenz's law that says the behavior is such as to resist the change.

But now consider an inductor, with current flowing in it, suddenly connected to another inductor (and disconnected from it's powering source or battery).   Do you realize that now we are bringing two forces against each other?  One inductor wants to have current flow at some value, and the other inductor wants to stay at zero current.     It's like the scenario of INFINITE FORCE TRYING TO MOVE THE IMMOVABLE ROCK. 

So what gives?    This is where it gets interesting, very interesting.....  we can also spice up the problem and say, let the coils not even have the same number of turns, or not even be close to each other so they are not coupled magnetically, and then later consider different levels of coupling of the coils, etc....

I'll tell you what happens,  there is inter winding capacitance, so when the coils are switched together in a closed loop (assuming no magnetic coupling)  the coil that had a current and magnetic field will have it's magnetic field collapse rapidly depending on the design of the coil and the separation distance of the turns.  Why?  Because there is capacitance between the windings (usually small).  The Voltage at the terminals will skyrocket  according to the well knows formula   V = L di/dt, where di/dt is the rate of change of the current, and L is the inductance.  (we don't to complicate things, but the other differential equation for a capacitor will actually give us a partial diff. eq. that we can solve, but we'll end up with the self oscillatory frequency of a coil, etc..)   

However,  at the same time,  the other coils with a zero current through it will see this spike in voltage at its terminals which will start to drive the current through it at a rate equal to  di/dt = V/L   (just rearranged the same equation) , 

so these two coils will perform an exchange of magnetic energy with quite a snap, and huge voltage surges, which indicates that the coils need to be designed well and single turn preferably.

The other case when the coils are close together and magnetically coupled gets more interesting and has a few permutations, as in, how do you hook up the coils, to have the fluxes aiding each other or bucking?   more to come.....


EM

P.S. Another way to visualize the Hubbard drum, is to visualize springs inside and compressing one spring and letting go will cause ripples that persist for a while.  The way the coil is configured, the power is extracted only on the outside coil by a type of dragging effect, that's why it's claimed to be a pulsing DC type of current (or voltage).  Other modes of resonance are certainly possible, and it should be noticed his device has an iron drum comming between the inside coils and the outer winding, so you can see why that is, it's to close the magnetic flux path from each inner coil through a sector of this outer iron pipe.   A motorized version of the Hubbard coil can also be created.  Place a long axial magnet on the inside of the drum and rotate it.  On the outside of the drum wrap the coils and you will see a voltage.   Even though there is no apparent flux cutting occurring in this scenario,  the A-potential (or the magnetic vector potential) is the answer.  V=u dA/dt, and the A potential certainly changes with the motion of the magnet.  This type of induction is more of a dragging sort of a concept.  Charges are pushed ahead of the A field disturbance.
« Last Edit: July 02, 2008, 03:49:36 AM by EMdevices »

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Re: Hubbard coil
« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2008, 10:23:12 AM »
Looks very much like Leedskalnin's PMH. Also needs just an tiny bit of initial energizing. What happens if you take 3-4 plain PMH devices and put them in such an arrangement that blocks current flow within each? I myself pretty sure an aetheric vortex will be created around these devices - it's about the only way to allow for current to continue flowing. It's a "least difficult route" of a kind.

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Re: Hubbard coil
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2008, 04:24:25 PM »
@EMD,
I am glad you mentioned the nix on the radioactive material. I thought the radioaction would be a possibilty to start the tuning forks ringing. Now I think differently. No more flirting with disaster.

Also,
Take a 3 or 4 segment, 3 layer TPU and connect the layers with caps like the LMD. It works up instead of horizontally. Current on 1st layer, diamagnetism on 3rd layer. And the added feature is the ring configuration.

--giantkiller.
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Re: Hubbard coil
« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2008, 05:53:05 PM »
@EMD,
I am glad you mentioned the nix on the radioactive material. I thought the radioaction would be a possibilty to start the tuning forks ringing. Now I think differently. No more flirting with disaster.

Also,
Take a 3 or 4 segment, 3 layer TPU and connect the layers with caps like the LMD. It works up instead of horizontally. Current on 1st layer, diamagnetism on 3rd layer. And the added feature is the ring configuration.

--giantkiller.

Also, you have a ring. That is what Stan Deyo shows in his design.


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Re: Hubbard coil
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2008, 08:27:02 PM »
I found a clear picture of Alfred M Hubbard in this digital archive. (circa 1924)

http://content.lib.washington.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/imlsmohai&CISOPTR=2704&CISOBOX=1&REC=1

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Re: Hubbard coil
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2008, 11:35:27 PM »
http://www.altenergy-pro.com/device02.htm

This clears up alot. The tuning fork analogy holds true.
http://www.altenergy-pro.com/rec.htm

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Re: Hubbard coil
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2008, 01:59:11 PM »
Howdy EMDevices,

What is a Cook Coil?  I did a web search and did find a Jeff Cook Coil on American Antigravity.  While it is just a single winding with a number of permanent magnets around it.  Your drawing depicts transformers with dissimilar wire sizes.   I wound a monster of a Hubbard coil for my Soft Particle Reactor.  Here is a link to a high resolution picture.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item52

And a link to the Soft Particle Reactor thread.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4255.0.html

You have combined the TPU operational philosophy into the Hubbard Coil design to where the coils are being pulsed in a pattern.  This is how you plan to get that pinch effect where the electromagnetic fields are bucking each other and drawing zero point energy from subspace.  In my Soft Particle Reactor the primary inductors are wired in parallel, and I am pulsing them all at the same interval.  I have had the TPU theory cooking in the back of my skull for a while now.  That theory makes a lot of sense.  Maybe it is time that I try to incorporate the TPU theory into the Soft Particle Reactor.  This way there is the electromagnetic effect drawing energy from subspace and the soft particle decay drawing energy from physical space.

Thanks for those fresh ideas EMDevices...

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Re: Hubbard coil
« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2008, 02:48:47 PM »
Nice coil, and the high definition photo is awesome, I like an organized build with attention to detail and it looks like you put in a lot of attention into it, good job !!! 

By Cook coils I mean the ones in the patent by Daniel McFarland Cook,  see this topic here:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2630.0.html

EM

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Re: Hubbard coil
« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2008, 09:15:35 AM »
Let's see

- the Hubbard coil uses bifilar wound coils

- Cook coils are bifilar

- Stubblefeld Earth battery uses bifilar coils

- SM TPU uses bifilar wound coils with delay

- Thrapp has multi-filar delay-line motor

- Energia Celeste uses bifilar wound coils with delay
one implementation uses 8 such in a circle

I see lots of relationships.

Earl
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Re: Hubbard coil
« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2008, 03:50:16 PM »
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A motorized version of the Hubbard coil can also be created.  Place a long axial magnet on the inside of the drum and rotate it.  On the outside of the drum wrap the coils and you will see a voltage.   Even though there is no apparent flux cutting occurring in this scenario,

Have you tried this and if so do you have any test data to prove it to be true? I would like to test this idea.

Most of the reports on the Hubbard describe a non-magnetic bobbin or spool for the outer winding. Where is the reference to a ferromagnetic spool?

Earl

Interesting patent drawings, could you supply the patent numbers?

Thanks......V

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Re: Hubbard coil
« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2008, 11:35:17 PM »
I guess, if Hubbard coil thing can be made to work, the least you should worry about is where it gets energy. My guess is that while "war of coils" takes place in this device, turmoil it causes induces overunity potential on the main outer coil. I wonder if cores should be interconnected - must be interconnected in some way if we take PMH into consideration. Otherwise no "perpetual motion" will be "held" in these coils. Permanent magnet is required as well... Probably half of all cores are permanent magnet bars while another half are plain iron cores. Iron cores are connected with permanent magnets. I have no idea what center coil is for, though.

Also, where's the source of info there are bifilar coils installed? Original picture shows 8 bars seemingly assembled into 2 groups, with 9th central bar without any apparent connections. I'm just persuading PMH idea. Can it be that 4 bars have permanent magnet cores and windings of these bars are interconnected; the same applies to other 4 bars, but they have iron cores.
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« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2008, 11:59:34 PM »
Here's an illustration for the idea... (hope it's obvious).

Seems like central core and winding is used as a higher potential. External core and winding is used as a lower potential. Quite simple actually if we consider a vortex is created inside this structure.

Well, as you've noticed I'm easy on theories. ;) so, you too, take it easy ;)

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« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2008, 08:50:30 AM »
(of course, other ends of internal and external windings should be connected.

One group of coils should be short-circuited - like in PMH.

In the end you have 4 terminals - exactly how original Hubbard device is pictured. 2 terminals for injecting a small initial energy input. 2 terminals are for collecting free energy out of aether. ;)

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« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2008, 02:53:27 PM »
One more idea... Windings on all iron-magnet core pairs should be wound in equal direction (CW or CCW), from top to bottom (or bottom to top). This is to ensure "magnetic current" that is held in the device goes in the same direction in all cores/windings. This will probably create "struggle" I was mentioning (current in adjacent cores will be obviously going in opposite directions).

It is also possible to use all iron cores, but interconnect them with permanent magnet bridges, as shown.

 

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