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Author Topic: Even the President wants a working model  (Read 7574 times)

Offline argona369

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Re: Even the President wants a working model
« Reply #15 on: July 01, 2008, 09:19:01 PM »
Very intriguing,

There?s lots on youtube if you search Stan Meyer

So, where is his dune buggy and injectors now??
Metallurgical analysis of the actual alloys used in the water engine injectors??
Who *currently* has the injectors and electronics, and what?s happening regarding to research and replications??

added: the dune buggy/injectors/electronics, not the WFC.
who has/where is the buggy now?

@utilitarian

do you have some documents for this that you can prove this all ?

We have seen the dune buggy driven in one youtube video and
the reporter says, it just runs on water..

Also there is another videos, where he is showing that one big electrolysis
cell is running his buggy in front of his garage.
Also I have a video on my

overunitydotcom

youtube user account,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lio-0aH6qTg

where Meyer presented his new sparkplugs and one english investor told
the cameraman, that they have tested the system and that it works great...

So as you don?t have presented any supportive documents about your negative claims,
I just see this as negative claims with no validation...

So from what did he die then, if he was not poisoned ?
« Last Edit: July 01, 2008, 10:18:40 PM by argona369 »

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Re: Even the President wants a working model
« Reply #15 on: July 01, 2008, 09:19:01 PM »

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Re: Even the President wants a working model
« Reply #16 on: July 01, 2008, 09:53:03 PM »
Yes utilitarian,

argona369 was able to find other information on Stan. Please go back and use a better search engine. Really try and look this time.

Thank you.

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Re: Even the President wants a working model
« Reply #17 on: July 01, 2008, 10:36:38 PM »

Government lab perhaps?  It must be somewhere,,,,,


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Re: Even the President wants a working model
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Offline argona369

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Re: Even the President wants a working model
« Reply #18 on: July 01, 2008, 11:42:29 PM »
Anyways, buggy or no buggy.
To me it looks like a water arc explosion engine.
Nothing to do with WFC.  Except the electronics maybe.
Explosion pushes piston down , vacuum pulls it back up.

couple of quick searches "water arc explosion",

http://www.df.lth.se/~snorkelf/Longitudinal/node6.html

http://www.groupsrv.com/science/about370354.html

I wonder if like cold fusion, the injector insides were plated with
The softest coating of grainless palladium.

Anyone know who?s doing water arc engines these days?

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Re: Even the President wants a working model
« Reply #19 on: July 02, 2008, 12:10:04 AM »
From what I have read, Stephen Meyer (Stans brother) is in possession of the dune buggy.  I have also read that it was missing a few components.  Stan had a tendency to not leave anything in tact.  Paranoid and all. 

  Hartiberlin, the two videos that you speak of show the dune buggy at different stages of development.  The one where the buggy is idling in the drive way in front of the garage is the first time that Stan ran the buggy on water.  You can hear him tell his wife "I told you I could do it!!"

  The other video where Stan is on the side of the road with the dune buggy and the reporter is interviewing him.  He makes the statement that they "estimated" that it would take 22 gallons of water to drive from New York to ??? (somewhere in CA)  The buggy at this stage of development did not run on injectors.  But he was quoted in a news paper article stating that he drove the buggy for 4 years on a chain of 6 cylindrical cells. 

  I have never seen a video of Stan actually driving the dune buggy on injectors although I have seen videos of it driving on a WFC system.

  Just my 2 cents.

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« Reply #20 on: July 02, 2008, 02:53:36 PM »
Lastly, a comment about what you said regarding patents.  While it is true that patent holders often omit some details to try to preserve some secrets, there is a fine line to be drawn.  If the invention is not the same as the patent, a patent may not protect it.  In our case, there are some very specific electric circuits that are patented.  If the actual working circuits are different from these, then the patent is worthless.

I have looked at some of these patents, and they are pretty detailed.  If the secret of overunity is there, someone should be able to replicate them.

I apologize everyone, I was not in a mood yesterday of any type of argumentation. I was engaged in arranging care for my ailing mom and had plenty of responsibilities going on that were not allowing me to think straight.

I want to address this quote from utilitarian, who must have been having a bout of mental illness, or maybe he was just in an argumentative mood yesterday and just felt like attacking either Stan Meyers or myself. Look at his statement above, it does not refute anything I wrote about patents. In fact, it is supportive of my previous phrase about how examples in patents don't always work as they are presented and details are held back. Stan Meyers obviously had a working device that convinced the patent office of its legitimacy. The fact that he might have left off details from the patent are obvious because of many previous attempts by others to duplicate his work, or else it would have worked as presented. I personally have been involved in, and have my name on, two patents. The example I provided for one of the patents was a general formula that was vague (as I was told to present by my superiors), and it was intentionally vague enough to conceal specific details that are important for the technology to work. As presented the technology would work very poorly or not at all. So yes, utilitarian, people DO leave out important details, and what I said is TRUE!

Stan Meyers' patents may have detailed and specific circuits, but he cleverly left enough out to prevent the stealing and duplicating of the technology by others. I don't know what utilitarian's problem was yesterday but he needs to wake up to the real world. People do leave important details out of patents intentionally.

 

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