Callanan

Thank you for the demo and the work.
I am a little confused. When you rotated the crank with the cord pull (to disperse the vapor), why didn't the vapor just exit out of the exhaust port? had you sealed it closed?

Thanks again.
D     

Callanan

Thank you for the demo and the work.
I am a little confused. When you rotated the crank with the cord pull (to disperse the vapor), why didn't the vapor just exit out of the exhaust port? had you sealed it closed?

Thanks again.
D     

Hi Dread,

I rotated the crank to splash more water in the cylinder up onto the spark plug as it gets used and exploded off after a few discharges. This is a 2 stroke line trimmer engine and all ports are open, no carby or muffler.  No valves. If you see vapour coming out, this is from the few discharges I had done. No vapour was put into the cylinder. Only liquid water was pumped into the cylinder as shown at the end of the previous setup video.

Regards,

Ossie

Fog/mist/water vapour has less latent heat energy than rain drops or liquid water. 

Why is that?!

On a cold foggy morning - what turns the fog back into water? I'm not 100% sure, but i'm reasonably certain that it's the solar radiation that adds extra heat.  Whether it condenses to form water, or whether it takes off into the sky to form clouds - I don't know.  But it seems clear to me that A/ it doesn't get turned into steam, and B/ it absorbs a lot of energy before it becomes liquid water again.

Or C/ you simply need more study.
Water simply evaporates (as per your A/) because of the solar heat. When evaporating it absorbs energy. When turns to fog/mist/liquid it gives off energy as heat. It?s as simple as that.

If we take a quantity of water, add a small amount of energy, and output that water as vapour, which now lacks the hydrogen bonds holding it together - we know that energy is, allegedly, never created nor destroyed - so that energy is liberated in the process.

What energy is liberated and in what process?!! The energy that you provided in the first place? Huh!
And that?s not ?a small amount of energy? at all!

Please refrain posting such nonsense, ok?

@ all
Please just move on. The above is something that had to be corrected.
(Maybe a moderator can clean the mess. Thanks!)

Tinu

Hi Dread,

I rotated the crank to splash more water in the cylinder up onto the spark plug as it gets used and exploded off after a few discharges. This is a 2 stroke line trimmer engine and all ports are open, no carby or muffler.  No valves. If you see vapour coming out, this is from the few discharges I had done. No vapour was put into the cylinder. Only liquid water was pumped into the cylinder as shown at the end of the previous setup video.

Regards,

Ossie

Once again great job Ossie.

One thing to keep in mind is once you have your timing system set up and you want the engine to work on its own, make sure you restrict your air intake. S1R has said this many times, when running on water you will not need much air intake since water itself contains Oxygen. So don't leave the intake open full, find some way to adjust it to find the correct balance.

You may want to keep the carby on as air regulator and drill a hole after the throttle body valve to fit a fine water hose.

Luc

As Capacitor70 got his kick-start engine to fire briefly on water; I feel it is relevant to this thread.
He summed things up in a post this morning
so I re-post his information to this thread as a reference for all:
Capacitor70 Design Details
Posted by: "capacitor" capacitor70@yahoo.co.in   capacitor70
Tue Jul 8, 2008 9:22 am (PDT)
1. I am not posting message on yahoo group, do not email me I will not
reply to email.
2. You can send me message on youtube or overunity.com to get reply.
3. Forum which contains all details is
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3977.new.html
4. Please read previous pages of forum for details.
5. Do not say tanks, nice idea on overunity forum, post only useful
information, Do not chat on forum, send personal message for any queries.

6. What I used in working model is
1. capacitor 330uF 400V.
2. 50Amps Rectifier.
3. 6A4 or 6A10 diodes. diodes are not stable it gets very hot.
4. Circuit is not stable many times it does not work properly due
to diodes.
5. Bulbs are to prevent surge current and protect inverter.
6. Engine Timings are not modified.
7. I don't have CDI unit on engine, so I use engines pulse pick up
coil to pulse Ignition coil through transistor.
8. Circuit also works well with engines CDI unit.
9. Nearly all single cylinder engine have -Ve high voltage
generation for spark, engine body acts as +ve for HV.
10. To Change -ve HV to +ve swap the ignition coil wires.
11. Chnage of -ve to +ve is simple for 3 wire ignition coils
12. For two wire ignition coil, coil core must be connected to +ve
and pulsing wire to -ve. (little difficult)
13. Spark plug is not modified, only resistance is removed from it.
14. It consumes spark plug very soon.
15. How to remove resistance is given in youtube videos see my
favorite.
16. Any part of engine is not modified.


7. I tried my circuit with 4 stroke 125CC bike engine and 2HP engine
it is not giving single fire. But it is giving little better
results with 80CC 4 Stroke engine Kinetic K4, as you seen in
youtube video.

8. Spark Plug shown in my photos is not used for this purpose, it
is HAJI (Hydrogen Assisted Jet Ignition System), Its not working.
Prechamber ignition for hydrogen engine.

Ideas
1. More you can do is ionize water before sending it to engine
carburetor.
2. Like Myers plug doing.
3. See Geet System for more research.

Could someone please clarify something for me?
I don't know how to post images and diagrams here so I will just have to describe what I am talking about.

On page 1, there is a picture diagram and a circuit diagram. In my view they are significantly different. The picture diagram (the circuit I am using) does not have a 12 volt source connected to the ignition coil. A capacitor is discharging through the the ignition coil while 120v rectified DC is added to the discharge via diodes.

In the circuit diagram (callanan's circuit) the coil is building it's charge from a 12v battery and when the spark is triggered a capacitor that is charged via 240v inverter releases it's charge on top of the ignition coil spark.

Is this correct or am I missing something?

@all, S1R9A9M9 has released his coil design today to the water fuel 1978 Yahoo group. He says the video showing the 18hp B&S engine used this coil design and did not use an inverter or diodes. Check it out.

RD

Strange.. 14 gauge uninsulated wire  for one of the windings This sounds like a copper core instead of a iron core transformer. I will have to wrap my brain around the construction description. A picture would be helpful here. I suspect something is missing from the description as it does not make sense.

I am thinking that the design by Allcanadian on page 16 (??) of this thread  using just a 12 volt iron core transformer, a diode and a cap is a much simpler method.

Got a bunch of parts from Ebay so a trip to RadioShaft and a bit of time should see if I can get a plasma spark. Got a 7hp Briggs Electric start engine to play with so at least my arm (or leg) will not get sore from starting.