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Author Topic: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE  (Read 1405511 times)

broli

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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE
« Reply #210 on: June 30, 2008, 03:48:55 PM »
Also try it with the http://www.pulstarplug.com/

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IndianaBoys

Aren't they just using a capacitor and a switching diode in parallel. Something like this.

(http://broli.dommel.be/sparkcircuit.JPG)

innovation_station

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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE
« Reply #211 on: June 30, 2008, 04:37:46 PM »
hey guys

how about a magnetic wheel  with reeds and trannys  then the system you guys are working on  out put of that to the ign system

i will do a dwg


ist ;D

broli

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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE
« Reply #212 on: June 30, 2008, 04:52:13 PM »
Ossie has uploaded a new video using a 9v battery.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOPUfRRdnW8

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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE
« Reply #213 on: June 30, 2008, 04:57:51 PM »
@ossie

have you tried to take power from the plug     try to recharge a battery or a cap from the plug  ;)


might blow you away....

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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE
« Reply #214 on: June 30, 2008, 05:02:28 PM »
Hi All,

Because it seems that people, who may or may not lack experience in electronics, are having trouble building and replicating the exploding water effect in previously described and shown devices, I have designed, built and tested what I believe to be a very simple to build device that most people can construct themselves at home that is powered only by a small square 9V battery that is commonly used in smoke alarms. I believe even kids can make this. Please see my latest video here:

http://www.youtube.com/m1a9r9s9

The purpose of this device is not to be able to power your car on water with it but simply to allow everyone to see for themselves and show others how water can directly explode on demand with little energy input. The device produces the required discharge in the spark plug about every 1 second and uses about 100-150ma from the 9V battery. At this current level the battery won't last too long but it is fine for demonstrations. For longer and continuous runs, just use a small 12V sealed lead acid battery of say 2 A/Hs.

Please see the circuit diagram and some pictures attached below.

All that is required to build this device is the following.

- A 12V, 150ma Security Xenon Strobe Light. Available from electronic and security stores. Color does not matter!

- An old car ignition coil. Available from automobile wreckers.

- A non resistor spark plug. Available from auto shops. Must not have a resistor in it!

- Five 1N5404 diodes or five large rectifying diodes. Part number doesn't really matter. Avaliable from electronic shops.

- A 9 volt battery. The same as used in smoke alarms. Available from anywhere.

- Some hook up wire.

- Basic tools including a soldering iron and some solder.

- Handheld water sprayer filled with water.

That's all folks!!

Please build this and show it to your friends, family, your teachers, professors, work mates anyone and everyone who can't believe that water can explode. Help your kids build this as their school science fair project. Just build it for fun!

On another note, my very good friend Ben has been doing some great research on this process as there is surprisingly quite a bit in the internet about it. He has found some references claiming that the energy released, when the water apparently explodes, is one thousand times the input energy required to cause the explosion. He has found some great info out about what may actually be happening but I will leave it to him to share if he gets time.

Enjoy!

Regards,

Ossie


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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE
« Reply #215 on: June 30, 2008, 05:10:46 PM »
I replicated the original experiment in the video, with what parts I had on hand (luckily I had recently scrapped a microwave oven for parts & had a home-made ignition coil setup to test things with).

First and foremost, I agree with the comment that the correct ratio of water mist-to-air is critical. This ought to be the focus of everyone at this time.

Atmospheric pressure, humidity, and temperature (P-H-T) are the three key variables. I played with several different voltage and waveform inputs to the coil and didn't see a lot of variation, so the electrical parts are not as critical as they first appear. If you get a strong spark, it works.

Three plant misters from around the house were used to supply water, and I discovered that the one with the finest mist seems to work best. This leads me to believe that the LARGER SURFACE AREA of the water (in mist form) is what makes this experiment different.

Will report numbers for PHT to this group as they are discovered.

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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE
« Reply #216 on: June 30, 2008, 05:19:46 PM »
OSSIE many thanks  1000 times holy crap  have you ever pointed a laser thermometer at the plasma?  Chet  PS ask Ben Pretty please to stop by

ramset

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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE
« Reply #217 on: June 30, 2008, 05:29:42 PM »
OSSIE  THIS IS WHY I THINK THERE IS MORE POTENTIAL HERE   MUST SEE    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxGeW4XXowc  CHRISP CRUNHY 1 1/2  yrs ago   Chet

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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE
« Reply #218 on: June 30, 2008, 05:50:43 PM »
Hi All,

Because it seems that people, who may or may not lack experience in electronics, are having trouble building and replicating the exploding water effect in previously described and shown devices, I have designed, built and tested what I believe to be a very simple to build device that most people can construct themselves at home that is powered only by a small square 9V battery that is commonly used in smoke alarms. I believe even kids can make this. Please see my latest video here:

http://www.youtube.com/m1a9r9s9

The purpose of this device is not to be able to power your car on water with it but simply to allow everyone to see for themselves and show others how water can directly explode on demand with little energy input. The device produces the required discharge in the spark plug about every 1 second and uses about 100-150ma from the 9V battery. At this current level the battery won't last too long but it is fine for demonstrations. For longer and continuous runs, just use a small 12V sealed lead acid battery of say 2 A/Hs.

Please see the circuit diagram and some pictures attached below.

All that is required to build this device is the following.

- A 12V, 150ma Security Xenon Strobe Light. Available from electronic and security stores. Color does not matter!

- An old car ignition coil. Available from automobile wreckers.

- A non resistor spark plug. Available from auto shops. Must not have a resistor in it!

- Five 1N5404 diodes or five large rectifying diodes. Part number doesn't really matter. Avaliable from electronic shops.

- A 9 volt battery. The same as used in smoke alarms. Available from anywhere.

- Some hook up wire.

- Basic tools including a soldering iron and some solder.

- Handheld water sprayer filled with water.

That's all folks!!

Please build this and show it to your friends, family, your teachers, professors, work mates anyone and everyone who can't believe that water can explode. Help your kids build this as their school science fair project. Just build it for fun!

On another note, my very good friend Ben has been doing some great research on this process as there is surprisingly quite a bit in the internet about it. He has found some references claiming that the energy released, when the water apparently explodes, is one thousand times the input energy required to cause the explosion. He has found some great info out about what may actually be happening but I will leave it to him to share if he gets time.

Enjoy!

Regards,

Ossie



Hi Ossie,

Once again you have outdone yourself.  Do you realize that this could be used AS IS on a old "Hit and Miss" engine from way back......Points would simply turn on the 9V circuit and it would fire as needed!

As we have discussed via Email, the theory of how all this works is pretty well documented and the disassociative water process is possibly how the high energy output is generated.  There is a very good file on the Yahoo Groups that discusses this in a very scholarly manner.

Ben

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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE
« Reply #219 on: June 30, 2008, 05:58:18 PM »
Hi All,

Because it seems that people, who may or may not lack experience in electronics, are having trouble building and replicating the exploding water effect in previously described and shown devices, I have designed, built and tested what I believe to be a very simple to build device that most people can construct themselves at home that is powered only by a small square 9V battery that is commonly used in smoke alarms. I believe even kids can make this. Please see my latest video here:

http://www.youtube.com/m1a9r9s9

The purpose of this device is not to be able to power your car on water with it but simply to allow everyone to see for themselves and show others how water can directly explode on demand with little energy input. The device produces the required discharge in the spark plug about every 1 second and uses about 100-150ma from the 9V battery. At this current level the battery won't last too long but it is fine for demonstrations. For longer and continuous runs, just use a small 12V sealed lead acid battery of say 2 A/Hs.

Please see the circuit diagram and some pictures attached below.

All that is required to build this device is the following.

- A 12V, 150ma Security Xenon Strobe Light. Available from electronic and security stores. Color does not matter!

- An old car ignition coil. Available from automobile wreckers.

- A non resistor spark plug. Available from auto shops. Must not have a resistor in it!

- Five 1N5404 diodes or five large rectifying diodes. Part number doesn't really matter. Avaliable from electronic shops.

- A 9 volt battery. The same as used in smoke alarms. Available from anywhere.

- Some hook up wire.

- Basic tools including a soldering iron and some solder.

- Handheld water sprayer filled with water.

That's all folks!!

Please build this and show it to your friends, family, your teachers, professors, work mates anyone and everyone who can't believe that water can explode. Help your kids build this as their school science fair project. Just build it for fun!

On another note, my very good friend Ben has been doing some great research on this process as there is surprisingly quite a bit in the internet about it. He has found some references claiming that the energy released, when the water apparently explodes, is one thousand times the input energy required to cause the explosion. He has found some great info out about what may actually be happening but I will leave it to him to share if he gets time.

Enjoy!

Regards,

Ossie

Once again Ossie, thank you for this amazing demonstration ;D


At everyone, you need to follow Ossie's lead, you will not understand using your conventional thinking as I can see since some of you are starting to confuse this topic.

Luc
« Last Edit: June 30, 2008, 06:56:38 PM by gotoluc »

ramset

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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE
« Reply #220 on: June 30, 2008, 06:09:34 PM »
Disassociated water ? Ill take 2 please http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxGeW4XXowc  Chet

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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE
« Reply #221 on: June 30, 2008, 06:23:18 PM »
For people with little EE background (like me). Here's what the ignition coil is supposed to do..

http://www.magnet.fsu.edu/education/tutorials/java/ignitioncoil/index.html

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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE
« Reply #222 on: June 30, 2008, 06:24:41 PM »
Quote from: pese
ITS NOT DUBLING !!

it give normal DC Voltages out.

12volts AC wil give 15volts DC approx


Checked out the doubling circuit at 13V ac in, got 34V dc out, almost triple!
Used 2 -120uf 200V caps

You may have a cap problem.

Good Luck, Larry


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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE
« Reply #223 on: June 30, 2008, 07:07:12 PM »
Disassociated water ? Ill take 2 please http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxGeW4XXowc  Chet

Hi All,


For those who like to know what is really going on and like to read technical papers,  go to the files section in the below group:

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/WaterFuel1978/files/

and read:

Graneau experiments.pdf   (You might have to join the group which I recommend)

If you slog through it, it is an eye opening experience as to what is going on here!!  It pretty well tells it like it is and it is AMAZING where the power comes from!  It is too large to attach.

Now read it darn it! 

Ben