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Offline Farmhand

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #150 on: March 18, 2014, 12:16:04 PM »
I made a typo in my last post, I meant to writ 2k - 10k resistor from gate to ground.

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
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« Reply #151 on: March 18, 2014, 12:28:32 PM »
See attachment for circuit to alternate two 12 volt globes. The inverter circuit I modified to get the drawing attached is the 8th schematic down using the CD4047 as the oscillator chip. One wire from each bulb is connected to the 12 volt rail and the other is switched alternately through the two mosfet switches, a CD4047 drives the mosfets just fine at lower frequencies. The 1K resistors to the mosfet gates is not exactly how I would do it, I would remove those and drive direct from the CD4047 outputs to the mosfet gates and place a 2k - 10 k resistor from the gate to the ground to ensure the mosfets turn right off.

8th circuit down on this page is the one I modified to get the circuit attached. Don't be concerned with using mosfets they are great for switches.
http://circuit-zone.com/?cat=AC_DC_Inverters

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Can it be done like as in the attached picture, without destroying the audio amplifier ? 12 v 22 w bulb resistance is roughly 6 ohms, which is more than the rated impedance of the audio amp output of minimum 4 ohms.

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #152 on: March 18, 2014, 02:58:42 PM »
(referring to that antenna receiver patent posted by google earlier) It seems to be not that incredibly simple when you need a half mile antenna. But interesting data about the frequency. But one of the more complicated concepts to verify.


About your audio amp question, I guess that would work, but you need a stereo frequency generator for the signal input. eg. a small astabile multivibrator or however it's called again. You can do that with two little signal transistors.


I have made a program that allows to draw a waveform with the mouse and save it as WAV, then play it at desired sampling rates from 1 to 200'000hz, but unfort. the pc soundcard has a basic output mixing rate that may be a harmonic to 44100 and results in moiré patterns/distortion of nonharmonic rates. So an analogue frequency generator or flipflop seems to be superior.

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #152 on: March 18, 2014, 02:58:42 PM »
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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #153 on: March 18, 2014, 04:33:15 PM »
If a incandescent globe with a coiled filament is switched it produces spikes the same as any coil does ( see video below), if it's switched at the right frequency the filament will take time to "glow down" heat wise but the energy stored in the magnetic field of the coil of the filament will be released, and can be utilized. Under the right conditions it might prove to be more efficient than when the bulb is supplied straight DC or AC even, maybe. The resonant frequency of the light bulb filament coil may be altered with a capacitor, just like we can with any coil.  ;)

Light bulb filament coil discharge. Again the video is rough but I'm not expecting a nomination for a Logie award  :) (Logie is the Aussie version of a Grammy I think).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l89YgQIIqUY

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #154 on: March 18, 2014, 05:08:55 PM »
(referring to that antenna receiver patent posted by google earlier) It seems to be not that incredibly simple when you need a half mile antenna. But interesting data about the frequency. But one of the more complicated concepts to verify.


About your audio amp question, I guess that would work, but you need a stereo frequency generator for the signal input. eg. a small astabile multivibrator or however it's called again. You can do that with two little signal transistors.


I have made a program that allows to draw a waveform with the mouse and save it as WAV, then play it at desired sampling rates from 1 to 200'000hz, but unfort. the pc soundcard has a basic output mixing rate that may be a harmonic to 44100 and results in moiré patterns/distortion of nonharmonic rates. So an analogue frequency generator or flipflop seems to be superior.

Hey, iphone or samsung smartphone output is stereo output. We just need an android application that can generate frequencies higher than 20,000 hz.

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #154 on: March 18, 2014, 05:08:55 PM »
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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #155 on: March 18, 2014, 05:16:30 PM »
If a incandescent globe with a coiled filament is switched it produces spikes the same as any coil does ( see video below), if it's switched at the right frequency the filament will take time to "glow down" heat wise but the energy stored in the magnetic field of the coil of the filament will be released, and can be utilized. Under the right conditions it might prove to be more efficient than when the bulb is supplied straight DC or AC even, maybe. The resonant frequency of the light bulb filament coil may be altered with a capacitor, just like we can with any coil.  ;)

Light bulb filament coil discharge. Again the video is rough but I'm not expecting a nomination for a Logie award  :) (Logie is the Aussie version of a Grammy I think).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l89YgQIIqUY

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You are a smarty farmhand, muaaaah !!!!

Actually I want to pulse two similar coils with one sourse, so that when the magnetic field is collapsing in one, its building up in the second coil, and so on and so forth.

By setting input to resonant frequency of coils, we rotate the magnetic field very fast. At resonance the input current will fall, but we can squeeze a higher output from two output coils, without losing magnetic fields.

What say ?? No noisy spark gap, no high voltage shock risk, no radium, no thorium.

Best,

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #156 on: March 18, 2014, 06:19:12 PM »
Just for thoughts...Sandeep.
this is what you want to do with your bulb...?
but it needs mechanical or solid switching.
16 is out put.
17 is on/off switch.
4 is 12vdc to 110/220vac inverter.
12 and 13 spark gap


14 15 electromag for spark quencing.


when one battery charge the other is on load and vice versa.
just met the Tom Bearden condition for self loop.


I never test, but i think it will work if properly tune.


P.S: instead of inverter you can use you 12vDC florocent tube driver if it can give you spark.
also you can omit spark quiching for test purpose.


in my openion, instead of 2 x 12v batteries, it should be caps.

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #156 on: March 18, 2014, 06:19:12 PM »
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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #157 on: March 18, 2014, 06:54:46 PM »
Dear Dil Jalaay,

For loopback we can use zener diodes similar to found in car alternators that limit the battery charging to 14.4 volts.

But by the way if power loopback is say 20 volts at 2 amps = 40 watts, will zener diodes increase the current while reducing the output to 14 volts, like http://www.bosch-semiconductors.de/en/ubk_semiconductors/clean_economical/alternator_electronics/press_fit_diodes/press_fit_diodes.html ?

If they dont increase the current we have a big inefficiency in loopback.

I have an inherent dislike for bedini bearden quacks and will not waste time in reading them or replicating them.

Any thought ?

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« Last Edit: March 19, 2014, 03:03:35 AM by Google »

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #158 on: March 19, 2014, 03:16:20 AM »
My question to a.king21 now.

You have always been saying electrostatic systems have a COP of 2 minus system losses.

Suppose we have a radiant energy source "A". Which is emitting high electrostatic charge.

Now we surround it with many small aluminium plates places around it in a circular fashion. Each plate is connected to a hv dc cap, negative of each cap is grounded TO A SEPARATE POINT IN GROUND.

As per tesla radiant energy patent, all caps will be charged pulling the other half of charge from the ground.

And we have connected these caps in parallel using diodes for output.

Now the question. Will the cumulative charge of the caps be around 10 times more than the charge supplied by our radiant energy source, if say we have 10 caps, 10 plates and 20 diodes capturing the radiant energy ??

Will this arrangement work as overunity ?

What do experts have to say about this ??

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #159 on: March 19, 2014, 03:21:16 AM »
If a incandescent globe with a coiled filament is switched it produces spikes the same as any coil does ( see video below), if it's switched at the right frequency the filament will take time to "glow down" heat wise but the energy stored in the magnetic field of the coil of the filament will be released, and can be utilized. Under the right conditions it might prove to be more efficient than when the bulb is supplied straight DC or AC even, maybe. The resonant frequency of the light bulb filament coil may be altered with a capacitor, just like we can with any coil.  ;)

Light bulb filament coil discharge. Again the video is rough but I'm not expecting a nomination for a Logie award  :) (Logie is the Aussie version of a Grammy I think).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l89YgQIIqUY

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Bloke, the word you're looking for is Emmy not Grammy :) Grammy = ARIA awards

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #160 on: March 19, 2014, 03:23:58 AM »
(referring to that antenna receiver patent posted by google earlier) It seems to be not that incredibly simple when you need a half mile antenna. But interesting data about the frequency. But one of the more complicated concepts to verify.


About your audio amp question, I guess that would work, but you need a stereo frequency generator for the signal input. eg. a small astabile multivibrator or however it's called again. You can do that with two little signal transistors.


I have made a program that allows to draw a waveform with the mouse and save it as WAV, then play it at desired sampling rates from 1 to 200'000hz, but unfort. the pc soundcard has a basic output mixing rate that may be a harmonic to 44100 and results in moiré patterns/distortion of nonharmonic rates. So an analogue frequency generator or flipflop seems to be superior.
Why would you need stereo? Just go double mono. A simple splitter.

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #161 on: March 19, 2014, 04:31:56 AM »
A srereo amp is a double mono only. ;)

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #162 on: March 19, 2014, 04:38:10 AM »
I mean why use a stereo FG. Could be done with a single output into the amp inputs.

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #163 on: March 19, 2014, 04:42:20 AM »
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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #164 on: March 19, 2014, 05:04:21 AM »
Bloke, the word you're looking for is Emmy not Grammy :) Grammy = ARIA awards

OK thanks Jim, anyway I'm no actor or film producer, none of my video's are in any way professional, and I can live with that. I was just having a dig at the name callers, if anyone was paying me they should ask for their money back based on my video and presentation efforts. It does hurt a bit to do so much experimenting only to be called a paid shill or "naysayer". Free energy is a passion of mine, it makes me sad to see all the profiteering and empty promises from so called free energy gurus that claim they are too scared to show things. I take risks in speaking out about criminality in our governments, I'm not afraid to speak out against the very people some on these forums claim I work for. I do realize they just make accusations out of frustration, immaturity or lack of logical thinking. For an Australian with a trade but unable to work in paid employment due to physical health issues, I am in a position where I have little to lose, I am not well off, I must save to buy equipment just like a lot of other folks, I'm poor too. But no man can buy my words or actions they are mine and mine alone. I can accept being labelled a skeptic, but when people accuse me so often of taking money to post what I post I must wonder are they being paid to denounce and slur people who think for themselves and educate themselves, because I at least know that no one pays me to post anything, nor could they.

I believe there are too many people on these forums for the wrong reasons, most don't have the gonads to actually accuse people by screen name and are cowards in my view, some do make direct accusations which I respect more than the gutless veiled accusations where people are indirectly slandered. In my honest opinion all accusations of people being paid shills should be made with intent and directed clearly to the person they accuse, and then the accused can defend themselves.

What I am looking for is real free energy collection methods, which have enough gain to be useful as a primary source of energy for the home and family without significant outlay and without voodoo required.

I firmly believe a lot of scammers prey on the suppression angle to allow them to be believed without any evidence, and also to cause paranoia and fear. Fear is what holds us back and fear keeps the criminals in government and fear keeps us under the biggest scam in history which is the central banking system now being spread to non conforming countries by terrorism sponsored by our own governments backed by the money controllers.

We all know this is the big problem that needs addressing before any free energy development for decentralized very cheap to utilize energy. Most here would do more good by taking to the streets and facing the bullets and batons of the Fascist Agenda purveyor's goons, who's actions and words are bought and paid for.

If the fake money system was brought down many would be free to develop real free energy methods for decentralized home power production.

Rather than free energy being seen as a national security risk, decentralization of power production should be considered as a national security must do. It is simply too easy to take down power to large sections of a country by the failure or destruction of a few facilities.

Just recently the entire city of Darwin Australia was blacked out by one switch point, most people do not have back up power, they expect the "authorities" to perform miracles and provide cheap power that is uninterruptible when they simply cannot do that. When the power goes out here my lights still burn by conventional free energy tech, solar energy collection and storage. A good place to start to become at least partially self powered or empowered.

end rant.

 

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