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Author Topic: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device  (Read 177869 times)

Offline energia9

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #180 on: March 19, 2014, 09:45:07 PM »
energia9


You are one step from overunity, but that one step is a giant leap in time....
what do you think this step is? how can we step one more?

i have some ideas
Synchronisation of adding together input+output
Compensation for losses.
Delaying discharge of output to loop back to input.    ,  selflooping would short circuit because it would charge and at the same time discharge the capacitor.        charging onto a discharging capacitor upon selfloop  onto the same system causes a short circuit.
there would need be a circuit for handling this.        our answer is two capacitors and two seperate control circuits?


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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #180 on: March 19, 2014, 09:45:07 PM »

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #181 on: March 19, 2014, 11:56:55 PM »
I have a brand new Barker/williamson 3 inch coil for sale if any one interested.
Tesla/Smith to above my head.
pic of coil

I am perhaps. Is it one of the Miniductor air wound coils? what part number? And how much do you want for it?

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #182 on: March 20, 2014, 02:01:32 AM »
Yes it is Airdux PN 2404TL and i'll take 50 bucks, its brand new perfect condition as you can see from pic.
Also have Information unlimited 9,000 volt 60ma Transformer brand new with two 10,000 caps.
and 12 volt 7500 volt Transformer @ 30 kh.

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #182 on: March 20, 2014, 02:01:32 AM »
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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #183 on: March 20, 2014, 03:21:30 AM »
marathonman: ok nice, i take it. Lets discuss details via PM/mail  :)
Its late here, i go sleep now. Will send u message tomorrow

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #184 on: March 20, 2014, 07:40:35 AM »
what do you think this step is? how can we step one more?

i have some ideas
Synchronisation of adding together input+output
Compensation for losses.
Delaying discharge of output to loop back to input.    ,  selflooping would short circuit because it would charge and at the same time discharge the capacitor.        charging onto a discharging capacitor upon selfloop  onto the same system causes a short circuit.
there would need be a circuit for handling this.        our answer is two capacitors and two seperate control circuits?


Start thinking clearly not deeply. What do you need to make it powering those lights continously ?


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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #184 on: March 20, 2014, 07:40:35 AM »
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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #185 on: March 20, 2014, 08:22:54 AM »
Energia9,

Think how can you control the rate of capacitor discharge into the bulb.

Best,

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #186 on: March 20, 2014, 11:02:19 AM »
Forest, Google

The bulbs are only for amazement how much power can be concentrated in a capacitor.
The real work i think relies in the control circuits upon feed back.
i seriously think it wont work without it.  it dont need be complicated.
as i see in the writings of Nikola tesla, he used rather complicated rotary switches.
or i thought on the idea of a spark gap controlling low voltage ( 9v-240v), if its possible at all.
my idea is that with a plasma stream low voltage could get through, this would control infinite wattage without using and damaging any expensive transistor in the main circuit.
possible at all?
if this works at all it eliminates the need for expensive high power transistors within our main circuit, also less losses in the system.
« Last Edit: March 20, 2014, 02:09:22 PM by energia9 »

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
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Offline havuhung

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #187 on: March 20, 2014, 11:41:23 AM »
Hi energia9,
I have a question?
DC low voltage (12V) how to keep a stable arc?





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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #188 on: March 20, 2014, 07:46:12 PM »
@energia9

Interesting idea. I remember few weeks/months ago seeing a schematic in Selfrunning devices from TK thread, where exactly same principle was used (havnt link to it now). Problem there was, the HV wouldnt take the way across the spark gap, but through the feeding low voltage DC/low frequency AC supply (not remember exactly now) and just be shorted, so no spark....
But perhaps u can find a solution to prevent this (diodes, high inductance coils, ect.)

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #188 on: March 20, 2014, 07:46:12 PM »
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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #189 on: March 21, 2014, 06:10:08 AM »
Energia9,

Try to use ultra capacitors, they discharge very slow.

Or you may hook up lead acid batteries in series with your cap in series with your load. Say your cap is rated 120 volts, just hook up 10 lead acid batteries in series with the cap and the cap will dump its charge in batts and you can power your load.

What do you think ?

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #190 on: March 21, 2014, 10:20:56 AM »
Forest, Google

The bulbs are only for amazement how much power can be concentrated in a capacitor.
The real work i think relies in the control circuits upon feed back.
i seriously think it wont work without it.  it dont need be complicated.
as i see in the writings of Nikola tesla, he used rather complicated rotary switches.
or i thought on the idea of a spark gap controlling low voltage ( 9v-240v), if its possible at all.
my idea is that with a plasma stream low voltage could get through, this would control infinite wattage without using and damaging any expensive transistor in the main circuit.
possible at all?
if this works at all it eliminates the need for expensive high power transistors within our main circuit, also less losses in the system.


warm warm warmier -  you need to find the way to REPEAT WHAT YOU DONE many times per second !
can you cut using sunlight ? NO, but you can using laser.... both are light waves...

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #190 on: March 21, 2014, 10:20:56 AM »
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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #191 on: March 21, 2014, 10:49:48 AM »
Sun Light, Laser?   The sun emits large spectrum of wave lengths - frequencies  The laser is focused on one wave length which can be condensed. I think I do understand that analogy.

To the picture above - Sorry for my low knowledge of electricity but if I good understand right the HV transformer generates alternating current. If we put  a diode before the spark on HV wire we will get on that side discharges from only positive charge and if I put the diode between my DC source and the spark  - would that work?  Also I think discharge tube might do better = more uniform discharges in the closed / gas environment.

Based on the picture above something like this:

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #192 on: March 21, 2014, 11:41:22 AM »

warm warm warmier -  you need to find the way to REPEAT WHAT YOU DONE many times per second !
can you cut using sunlight ? NO, but you can using laser.... both are light waves...

its hard to think how i could reproduce the same blinding brightness many times per second,  all i could do now is light the 3x 100 watt lightbulbs or 1x 500 watt lightbulb every 5-10 seconds.
to light those lights every 0.1 second  we would require about 60 watts at the input

forest do you think free energy could be attained this way?  im a skeptical but i question the impossible.  maybe im really talking against myself.

John.K1
Yes  like that and i thought putting an earth ground at the end of the coil draws the spark in that direction




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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #193 on: March 21, 2014, 12:45:18 PM »
Hi All,
The idea of the circuit diagram is good, but it can not work due to the DC voltage is too low!

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #194 on: March 21, 2014, 01:05:31 PM »
Hi All,
The idea of the circuit diagram is good, but it can not work due to the DC voltage is too low!
i thought of the same, but what voltage would be sufficient to be able to break the gap with the aid of a high voltage stream?

say 200 volts?

 

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