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Author Topic: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device  (Read 177841 times)

Offline Jimboot

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #165 on: March 19, 2014, 05:21:19 AM »
Nice rant mate.
I've been thinking about the open source / patent path debate for some years now. Inevitably if an inventor does come up with something it's a helluva ask to just give it away and lose all those potential $ in time & materials you have ploughed into it.


After watching the Brian Collins video last night on Steven Marks TPU it reminded me of a project I was involved with as the "Internet Systems Expert" lets say . We had a lot of heavy hitters involved including some major contractors out of the US and former spook consultants. Any the whole thing got buried. The conversations in that video last night were about roll out and deployment to get the biggest bang for you buck.


If anyone has a project that they think has potential it seems inevitable if you go down the patent path it will be lost forever. Here's how I'd release it to the world as open source and make some good coin at the same time . Let's not forget there are plenty of ppl making a lot of $ on open source. Open Source is not a socialist concept. Given my experience in digital marketing these are my steps.


1. create a community and a buzz around that community
2. work towards a crowdfunding campaign
3. make sure you have a kickarse video
4. tell your comunity the crowd funding campaign is coming
5. perks include, building plans, kits, actual device etc.
6. Go opensource the same day the crowdfunding starts but use it as a promo to get ppl interested in the kickstarter campaign.
7. Have a nice life.


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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #165 on: March 19, 2014, 05:21:19 AM »

Offline Google

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #166 on: March 19, 2014, 05:33:10 AM »
Good idea Jimbbot. Another idea is to sell your plan to 10,000 buyers @ $1000 each. And you release your plan when you get advance from 10,000th buyer. So you have 10,000,000 dollars. Have a nice life.

But a kickarse video and a validation certificate from some credible sourse is a must.

Best,

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #167 on: March 19, 2014, 06:02:22 AM »
Well I must also say that I am very fortunate to have a cheap place to live with fresh clean air and water and a bit of room to do stuff when I can. I am also fortunate to not have to endure war and such, but I know suffering first hand and would like nothing more than to do my part to help those less fortunate than me. I go to the hospital and see able bodied people walk right past people struggling in wheelchairs and stuff, most are so stressed by money and time constraints they set aside their humanity and engage tunnel vision. I know a great many on these forums also think as I do.

Here is a video I like, people being kind, it's almost like counter road rage. The scene that got me was the old woman praying to make it across the street, the drivers seemed to know she would wait and so no one slowed, but when the man was there they aren't so oblivious.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ql_PmHQXaDo

Another
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDrd8ELhhvM

The rage should be unacceptable. Karma down.  ;) Be human.

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #167 on: March 19, 2014, 06:02:22 AM »
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Offline Jimboot

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #168 on: March 19, 2014, 06:04:57 AM »
I reckon you can skip a lot of the BS by going directly to the crowd with a good marketing strategy. Yep a credible source is nice but if you are asking for $100 or $200 a bunch of testimonials from ppl that are using it will work just as well and stop the academic arguments that will be inevitable whomever your credible source is. Anyway I don't have such a device so the point is moot. Just my advice to the viewers out there. Oh yeah and I'd be happy to market it at a reduced commission too!  ;D

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #169 on: March 19, 2014, 06:07:06 AM »
Well I must also say that I am very fortunate to have a cheap place to live with fresh clean air and water and a bit of room to do stuff when I can. I am also fortunate to not have to endure war and such, but I know suffering first hand and would like nothing more than to do my part to help those less fortunate than me. I go to the hospital and see able bodied people walk right past people struggling in wheelchairs and stuff, most are so stressed by money and time constraints they set aside their humanity and engage tunnel vision. I know a great many on these forums also think as I do.

Here is a video I like, people being kind, it's almost like counter road rage. The scene that got me was the old woman praying to make it across the street, the drivers seemed to know she would wait and so no one slowed, but when the man was there they aren't so oblivious.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ql_PmHQXaDo

The rage should be unacceptable. Karma down.  ;) Be human.

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Nice one mate. Yeah this really is the lucky country. I'm in Melbourne btw. Moving down the peninsula soon with a bit of space around me and a bigger workshop :)

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #169 on: March 19, 2014, 06:07:06 AM »
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Offline forest

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #170 on: March 19, 2014, 08:32:40 AM »
and what all that has to do with Don Smith device ?  :o   ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #171 on: March 19, 2014, 08:39:10 AM »
and what all that has to do with Don Smith device ?  :o   ;D ;D ;D ;D

In my opinion Don was a paid disinfo agent, top level. An agent of endless frustration for many.

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #171 on: March 19, 2014, 08:39:10 AM »
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Offline forest

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #172 on: March 19, 2014, 08:45:21 AM »
In my opinion Don was a paid disinfo agent, top level. An agent of endless frustration for many.

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In main opinion he was just in contact with exotic technology, maybe being an retired agent, he saw many in details but had no knowledge able to reconstruct them. His comments are mix of real data and a fairy stories. Some principles seems viable but all shown working models are incomplete, being just models, not prototypes.

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #173 on: March 19, 2014, 09:32:02 AM »
When donald smith talks about how his systems are able to achieve 100Kilowatt levels or at least thats what i have read from some sources,  like his plasma globe.  he does not add that its for just a fraction of a milisecond when he discharges his capacitors.
I made experiments honestly lighting 3x 100 light bulbs and a 500 watt lightbulb to absolute brightness, needed wear sunglasses, 
it was possible to light them because my output from my capacitor was in times of discharge reached 400 volts at 200 ampers ,  eighty thousand watts, but for a very fraction of a milisecond,  this lit my lamps to nearly explode,  from light up to dim down, 1.5 seconds. and my input power was only 11 watts Dc to my driving transistor.
This is no measurement error.    however this is not overunity!!, and donald smith was confused about this. 
even when tesla is talking about how many thousands of horsepowers he achieved he talks about the same idea what i did.   
he loaded hundreds of capacitors into a very high potential, and discharged them all at once in a fraction of a milisecond.
i can light up even 100 kilowatts worth of lightbulbs i just need about 500 x 400uf  450volt capacitors,  4x 20 kilovolt 100 ns diodes,  an earth ground , an input of 100 watts to my hv coil that feeds the diode bridge,  and at last some good luck not to get killed.
do not repeat what i said folks,  your life depends on one touch!  dont come crying to me.

On the pic, a transformer in series makes a deep humming noise and vibrates because of high magnetic field generated.

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #173 on: March 19, 2014, 09:32:02 AM »
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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #174 on: March 19, 2014, 02:52:07 PM »
In my opinion Don was a paid disinfo agent, top level. An agent of endless frustration for many.

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maybe u are right, but how to explain the succesful replications of dynatron, stoker_x1, the 2 chinese replications (ok, no measurements in both) and replications of Kurt(kdkinen, mrclean) who i am definately sure is not a disinfo agent? See also these videos of people who replicated DS stuff: http://energy.team-talk.net/f14-replication-videos  (think more than half NOT succesful)

Here is link to a text from a Valery Ivanov who claims to have replicated the DS also with semiconductor technology, like the 1 chinese setup (link was originally posted by T-1000):
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2F001-lab.at.ua%2Findex%2Fdonald_smit%2F0-43

However, i think in the end we will only know if we actually build lots of stuff from different people and do our own experiments. Speculating that guy or that one is disinfo agent wont lead us anywhere... you or me or we both could be disinfo agents as well...

Btw Farmhand, u and Hoppy often claim that incandescent bulbs can be brighter when powered with high frequency AC at same energyinput than they are with DC/50hz AC. U maybe have a video(link) where this is shown?

kind regards,
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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #175 on: March 19, 2014, 04:08:56 PM »
@energia, yes good point. Answers my last question to Farmhand partially. I must admit, i even made similar observations when discharging caps into bulbs. Though I still like them as a first quick visual indicator for power Output. Of course next step always should be to make real measurements and make a feedback loop (careful here, use fuses and voltage regulators)

I personally like to work with filtered DC on Input/Output if possible, makes measurements easier, check with scope if its really clean DC

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #176 on: March 19, 2014, 04:33:26 PM »
This would be setup of energia9 modified for filtered DC OUTPUT: (hope its ok i modified ur schematic, if not I will delete)

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #177 on: March 19, 2014, 08:29:01 PM »
I have a brand new Barker/williamson 3 inch coil for sale if any one interested.
Tesla/Smith to above my head.
pic of coil

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #178 on: March 19, 2014, 08:43:32 PM »
energia9


You are one step from overunity, but that one step is a giant leap in time....

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #179 on: March 19, 2014, 09:23:00 PM »
Hi Forest
Have you tried a Blinding technique on your capacitor or asymmetrical capacitor? The picture from Vladimir utkin's pdf:

 

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