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Author Topic: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device  (Read 177870 times)

Offline Google

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #135 on: March 17, 2014, 01:36:07 PM »
people get fooled very easily.
the reason why these "inventors" are affraid to stand out is the reason why they are liars.
im sad too that this world is full of foolsters that are like parasites.
some see that im talking against my self that i still believe that some form of alternative energy machine does exist.
But i know it as fact that 95% of people who claim are just attention seekers.

100 % agreed.


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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #135 on: March 17, 2014, 01:36:07 PM »

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #136 on: March 17, 2014, 01:37:47 PM »
100 % agreed.

DS BS chapter closes now.

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #137 on: March 17, 2014, 02:22:20 PM »
Ok. let forget who is BS and who is not.


Sandeep, lets try to use our brain.


Lets think how a simple generator works, a magnet (Field) passing or cutting the bunch of series winding, generating some AC(Alternating Current). If our prime mover rotating the shaft 50 or 60 C.P.S then we generate an AC of 50 or 60Hz. Lets say it gives us a power of 100w.


Now what if we rotate it at much higher CPS. lets say 100 or 120Hz, then what will be the power? Ofcource it will double.


Can we imagine how magnet field cutting the generator wires, and can we not make a solid state generator which do the same job, without moving moving part, and with higher frequency.


I think there is possibility to do that.


Lets start our own brain.

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #137 on: March 17, 2014, 02:22:20 PM »
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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #138 on: March 17, 2014, 02:35:05 PM »
DJ,

Who says doubling the frequency will double the power output. You need to put in more work to double the frequency.

Ok, take a car audio amplifier. Connect your mobile phone to input and turn on the frequency generator on your phone. Drive your car amp with a 12 V DC accumulator.

On the output of the amplifier, attach a bifilar pancake coil with minimum 8 ohms impedance so that you dont fry your amplifier.

Now make 2 non bifilar pancake coils equal in diameter to your transmitting coil.

Place one on top and one on bottom of the transmitting coil.

Measure the totol input vs output of system at different frequencies between 1 hz to 20000 hz. Plot a graph of output power/ input power vs frequency.

Share the results. Simple ?

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #139 on: March 17, 2014, 02:57:45 PM »
DJ,
 You need to put in more work to double the frequency.

Perhaps this sentence hides or reveals the 'secret'. I already described you a way to raise 10 times the frequency or even more, with the same input power. Think more about it.
http://www.overunity.com/14197/sstc-changing-frequency-issue/msg393154/#new

Tnks Jeg

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #140 on: March 18, 2014, 02:52:31 AM »
Thanks Jeg,

DJ has a good idea.

BUT, lets recall what Tesla said, we do not want freqency to be too high, so that we do not lose power in form of herzian waves.

Lets keep the operating range well within the audio freuency range so that ~95% power remains in the system and not lost as hertzian waves.

Now DJ, its your turn to develop the idea further.

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #141 on: March 18, 2014, 04:17:58 AM »
How can we exploit this patent to get overunity ?

http://rpmgt.org/Patents_512340_593138_685012.htm#intensity

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COP = 6, US PATENT ???????
« Reply #142 on: March 18, 2014, 04:59:48 AM »
Frank Prentice.   Electrical Engineer Frank Wyatt Prentice of the USA invented what he described as an ‘Electrical Power Accumulator’ with an output power six times greater than the input power (COP = 6).   He was granted US patent 253,765 on 18th September 1923 and which says: My invention relates to improvements in Electrical Power Accumulators, wherein the earth acting as rotor and the surrounding air as a stator, collects the energy thus generated by the earth rotating on its axis, utilises the same for power and other purposes. In the development of my Wireless Train Control System for railways, covered by my United States Letters Patent Number 843,550, I discovered that, with an antennae consisting of one wire of suitable diameter supported by insulating means three to six inches above the ground and extending one half mile, more or less in length, the said antenna being grounded at one end through a spark gap and energised at the other end by a high frequency generator of 500 Watts input power and having a secondary frequency of 500,000 Hz, would produce in the antenna an oscillatory frequency the same as that of the earth currents and thus electrical power from the surrounding media was accumulated along the length of the transmission antenna and with a closed oscillatory loop antenna 18 feet in length run parallel with the transmission antenna at a distance of approximately 20 feet it was possible to obtain by tuning the loop antennae, sufficient power to light to full power, a series bank of fifty 60 watt carbon lamps. Lowering or raising the frequency of 500,000 Hz resulted in diminishing the amount of power received on the 18 foot antenna.   Similarly, raising the transmission antenna resulted in a proportionate decrease of power picked up on the receiving antenna and at 6 feet above the earth no power at all was obtainable without a change of potential and frequency. It is the objective of my generic invention to utilise the power generated by the earth as described here, and illustrated in the drawings.   The two figures in the drawings illustrate simple and preferred forms of this invention, but I wish it understood that no limitation is necessarily made as to the exact and precise circuits, shapes, positions, and structural details shown here, and that changes, alterations and modifications may be made when desired within the scope of my invention. DESCRIPTION: In Fig.1:1 and 2 are alternating current feed wires supplying 110 volts 60 cycles to a high frequency generator.3 is a switch with poles 4 and 5.6 and 7 are connections of high frequency transformer 8 for stepping up the frequency to 500 KHz and the voltage to say 100 KV.9 is an inductance coil.10 is a spark gap.11 is a variable capacitor.12 is the primary winding of transformer 8.13 is the secondary winding of transformer 8 which is connected through wire 15 via variable capacitor 16 and wire 17 to ground 18.14 is the wire from the other side of the secondary winding of transformer 8 connecting it to the main transmission antenna 19 which is supported by insulating means 20.21 is spark gap from transmission antenna 19 to ground through wire 22, variable capacitor 23, and wire 24 to ground 24'.Transmission antenna 19 may be of any desired length. In Fig.2:25 is a closed oscillating loop antenna of any desired length, which for greatest efficiency, is run parallel with transmission antenna 19 of Fig.1.26 is the connecting lead between the antenna and step-down transformer 27 of which 27'is the secondary.28 is the lead connecting the secondary winding 27’ to ground 31 via variable capacitor 29and lead 30.32 is the primary winding of transformer 27.33 is a variable capacitor.34 and 35 are frequency transformer windings, supplying current through leads 36 and 37to motor 38, or any other power devices.OPERATION OF THE INVENTION:Close switch 3 to connect feed wires 1 and 2 to transformer leads 6 and 7.   Adjust spark-gap 10 and variable capacitor 11 so that a frequency of 500 KHz and 100 KV is delivered from secondary leads 14 and 15 of step-up transformer 8 of Fig.1.   Next adjust spark-gap 21 of transmission antenna 14 so that all nodes and peaks are eliminated in the transmission of the 100 KV and 500 KHz frequency along antenna 14.   The surges which occur, pass over gap 21 through lead 22 to variable capacitor 23 and then on to ground 24’ via lead 24. The high frequency current of 500 KHz returns through the ground, to ground connection18, up lead 17 to the variable capacitor 16 and via lead 15 to the secondary winding 13 of transformer 8 of Fig.1.   The alternating current produced by the 100 KV 500 KHz supply is the same frequency as the earth generated currents, and being in tune with them it picks up additional power from them. Being the same frequency as the output from transformer8 along wires 14, this produces a reservoir of high frequency current which can be drawn upon by a tuned circuit of the same 500 KHz frequency, as shown in Fig.2. Antenna 25 is tuned to receive a frequency of 500 KHz which produces a current that passes to lead 26 through winding 27' of transformer 27, through wire 28, variable capacitor 29 and wire 30 to ground connection 31.   The high frequency currents of 500 KHz pass through to winding 32 and by variable capacitor 33 and windings 34 and 35 of the frequency transformer 27 are stepped down to a voltage and frequency suitable to operate motor 38 via leads 36 and 37.   This makes available a current supply for any purpose whatsoever, such as the operation of aeroplanes, cars, railway trains, industrial plants, lighting, heating etc. The return of current through the earth from transmission antenna 14 is preferable to a metallic return as a higher percentage of accumulation of earth currents is noticeable on receiving antennae of Fig.2 than from a metallic return, caused by the capacitance of the grounded circuit.   I also prefer under certain conditions to use a single antenna receiving wire in place of the closed loop shown in Fig.2.   Under certain operation requirements I have found it expedient to have the transmission antenna elevated and carried on poles many feet above the earth and in that case a different voltage and frequency were found to be necessary to accumulate earth currents along the transmission antenna 14. This system of Frank’s effectively applies very sharply pulsed DC pulses to a long length of wire supported in a horizontal position not far above the ground.   The pulses are sharp due to both the spark gap on the primary side of the transformer, along with the spark-gap on the secondary (high voltage) side of the transformer.   An input power of 500 watts gives a 3 kW power output from what appears to be an incredibly simple piece of equipment.

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #143 on: March 18, 2014, 06:33:26 AM »
I have a technical question to the electronics gurus ?

Suppose I have 2 12 volt bulbs and single dc 12 v power supply. How do I design a simple electronic circuit powered by the 12 v battery that will alternatively power each bulb, in such a manner that when bulb A has maximum brightness, bulb is fully off and vice versa in a cyclical manner. There should be no moving parts in the system.

Any help shall be highly appreciated.

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #144 on: March 18, 2014, 07:48:24 AM »
Hi Google,

I'm not sure is true with your desired questions.  I can think of an electronic circuit:  Single multi-harmonic oscillator stability, if the bulb is of large capacity required a buffer transistor.

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« Reply #145 on: March 18, 2014, 08:37:31 AM »
Hi, thanks for replying.

What I am asking is as follows :

1. We have one 12V DC accumulator say 7Ah.
2. We have two 12V DC 22 Watt identical bulbs.
3. We have a circuit "X" which has input wires connected to 12V accumulator.
4. Our circuit "X" has 4 output wires, each set of two going to each 12V/22W bulb.

We want our circuit X to be made in such a way that it cyclically powers bulbs one after the other. And we should be able to control the speed of the cycles.

Best,

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #146 on: March 18, 2014, 10:31:32 AM »
Hi Google,

Basically you need an astable multivibrator. See this link but you have to use transistors able to handle the 22W bulbs current taken from 12V battery.  Also, resistors R1 and R4 should be omitted, they are current limitiers for the LEDs when transistors are ON.

http://www.next.gr/oscillators/astable/astable-multivibrator-with-two-led-l8272.html

Gyula

PS if you search by google with words ' astable multivibrator '  you will have tons of explanations and schematics.


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« Reply #147 on: March 18, 2014, 11:02:48 AM »
Hi, thanks for replying.

What I am asking is as follows :

1. We have one 12V DC accumulator say 7Ah.
2. We have two 12V DC 22 Watt identical bulbs.
3. We have a circuit "X" which has input wires connected to 12V accumulator.
4. Our circuit "X" has 4 output wires, each set of two going to each 12V/22W bulb.

We want our circuit X to be made in such a way that it cyclically powers bulbs one after the other. And we should be able to control the speed of the cycles.

Best,

See attachment for circuit to alternate two 12 volt globes. The inverter circuit I modified to get the drawing attached is the 8th schematic down using the CD4047 as the oscillator chip. One wire from each bulb is connected to the 12 volt rail and the other is switched alternately through the two mosfet switches, a CD4047 drives the mosfets just fine at lower frequencies. The 1K resistors to the mosfet gates is not exactly how I would do it, I would remove those and drive direct from the CD4047 outputs to the mosfet gates and place a 2k - 10 k resistor from the gate to the ground to ensure the mosfets turn right off.

8th circuit down on this page is the one I modified to get the circuit attached. Don't be concerned with using mosfets they are great for switches.
http://circuit-zone.com/?cat=AC_DC_Inverters

Cheers

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #148 on: March 18, 2014, 11:54:15 AM »
Thanks a ton farmhand and gyulason.  ;D :D

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #149 on: March 18, 2014, 12:04:07 PM »
Tesla was an electrical genious but he wrote his patents very elusively. Till we try replicating them, we wont get the underlying meaning of the term "Complex currents", that he has frequently used in his patents.   ;)


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