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Author Topic: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device  (Read 178331 times)

Offline Google

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #120 on: March 17, 2014, 10:03:52 AM »
A simple question to all.

A bifi pancake coil lying on top of cooktop and connected to a load equal to power input of cooktop, will it suck the entire magnetic field of the cooktop coil ?

Or will the magnetic field will be intact and we can place another identical bifi pancake coil on top of first secondary and power an equal load with it, same as first ?

Brainstorm and reply please.

I didnt see any youtube video, doing this so far.

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #121 on: March 17, 2014, 10:12:54 AM »
This is what I am saying.

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #122 on: March 17, 2014, 10:38:01 AM »
A simple question to all.

A bifi pancake coil lying on top of cooktop and connected to a load equal to power input of cooktop, will it suck the entire magnetic field of the cooktop coil ?

Or will the magnetic field will be intact and we can place another identical bifi pancake coil on top of first secondary and power an equal load with it, same as first ?

Brainstorm and reply please.

I didnt see any youtube video, doing this so far.

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What about daily chain several cooktops

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #122 on: March 17, 2014, 10:38:01 AM »
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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #123 on: March 17, 2014, 10:40:43 AM »
Watch this and read the comment by dkdyker in the comments section.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gtdajzaJ0w

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #124 on: March 17, 2014, 10:41:52 AM »
What about daily chain several cooktops

What is daily chain several cooktops ???

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #125 on: March 17, 2014, 10:56:16 AM »
Have one cooktop run several in series if you like, from pancake coils. Depending of course on the frequency of the ac from the pancakes. Be an interesting experiment though.




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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #126 on: March 17, 2014, 11:37:56 AM »
Hi Google - saying that makes me giggle - as I own an SEO Company.


This is from one of Laurent's vids - its all in French but description (below) is in English https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSqHwMabmmw


Hi all[/font]Sorry but this time i made the video in french.I explain in the video that i testeds the vGEGENE with a lot of different secondary coils, and when i tested the small 12 cm diameter coils that are intended for my small induction plate GEGENE , but on on my big Tristar induction plate, i got powerfull result also.So a pancake coil of a smaller diameter than the induction coil seems to work very well. And wonder why ??So i scratch my head and i made this theory proposal, which is only my affabulation good or not , but i dare to present here to you.Would it be possible , that we get an analogy between airflow That i know quite well ) and the flux of a magnetic field.So the idea would be that ,:First , we put the secondary coil outer diameter, smaller than the outer diameter of the induction coil and the secondary inner diameter larger than the inner diameter of the induction coil,so we get a part of the induction coil (outer and inner ) free to produce a magnetic field which is not submitted to Lenz law , because it suffer no charge at all and is for that reason very free and light to alternate with great speed because no work to do.And in the same time , the flux in the middle of the induction coil, is working hard , battling in the pancake secondary against Lenz and his army, to produce power to animate the load. And the idea is , as per analogy to aerodynamic would it be possible that those "FREE lenz " outboard magnetic field coul help the working one to do the job easier ????=?OK please forgive me , but this is the beginning of a very hard year and we have to try to think more trhan usual , OUT OF THE BOXGood luck at alllaurent

The reason for this effect could be that the magnetic field of a spiral coil comes out of both sides of the hole or the core piece in the center and expands as it gets further from the coil, ie. it looks kinda like a pair of inverted cones, near the outer diameter the field is weak. So a smaller spiral coil would be cut by more of the imaginary field lines than a bigger one, or one the same size as the cooker has. Also some high end induction cookers work at higher frequencies so they can heat even low or non magnetic cookware, from what I can gather, it's possible these could be air cored coils in the high end cookers that work at higher frequencies, and the magnetic field might be bigger in size or different shape.

Someone posted a model of what the spiral coil field actually looks like but I can't find it.

Cheers

What would be interesting is if a single layer solenoid was placed on the cooker, or maybe several of different diameters and heights. I have an induction cooker I use often for cooking hahaha (who would have thunk it) Cooking with a cooker, it works quite well. ;D

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #127 on: March 17, 2014, 12:01:29 PM »
The reason for this effect could be that the magnetic field of a spiral coil comes out of both sides of the hole or the core piece in the center and expands as it gets further from the coil, ie. it looks kinda like a pair of inverted cones, near the outer diameter the field is weak. So a smaller spiral coil would be cut by more of the imaginary field lines than a bigger one, or one the same size as the cooker has. Also some high end induction cookers work at higher frequencies so they can heat even low or non magnetic cookware, from what I can gather, it's possible these could be air cored coils in the high end cookers that work at higher frequencies, and the magnetic field might be bigger in size or different shape.

Someone posted a model of what the spiral coil field actually looks like but I can't find it.

Cheers

What would be interesting is if a single layer solenoid was placed on the cooker, or maybe several of different diameters and heights. I have an induction cooker I use often for cooking hahaha (who would have thunk it) Cooking with a cooker, it works quite well. ;D

Are you actually using the overunity cooktop ? Please say so clearly. There are many people already on the forum talking in  riddles.

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #128 on: March 17, 2014, 12:09:46 PM »
No i'm not talking in riddles, if I had what I though was OU I would say so. Don't worry about that, And I am trying a few things when I can. But not with the cooker, I just thought that because of the field shape a single layer solenoid like a "Tesla coil" might be interesting as compared to using another spiral coil.

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #129 on: March 17, 2014, 12:25:08 PM »
Watch this : http://vidoz.com.ua/video/cnMBX2jeTob.html

Suppose we take the induction cooktop's original coil out and connected a bifi coil in its place and kept this coil outside of the cooktop.

Our new bifi must match the impedence of the original coil of cooktop, so that the cooktop electronics does not get fried.

Now, as we know a bifi produces a much stronger magnetic field.

We place two identical bifi pancake coils, one above the input coil and the other below it.

We should now definitely get overunity output from this arrangement.

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #130 on: March 17, 2014, 12:37:36 PM »
No i'm not talking in riddles, if I had what I though was OU I would say so. Don't worry about that, And I am trying a few things when I can. But not with the cooker, I just thought that because of the field shape a single layer solenoid like a "Tesla coil" might be interesting as compared to using another spiral coil.

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Or maybe 8 secondaries, silmilar in shape, cylidrical, like tesla coil secondaries, resonant with the spiral of cooktop coil, plcaed vertically on top of cooktop in a symitrical fashion, with one in centre and 7 surrouding it circularly.

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #131 on: March 17, 2014, 12:45:05 PM »
Let me clear a bit of a thing here, and i did not suck this from my finger...

You can never get more energy out from several coils that resonate at the same frequency.
You can not get the same amount of energy from them all at once.
thats just blabber from the side of donald smith,  he does not know what he says on many occasions...

nor you can have more output or wierd anomalies from a bifiliar coil,  a bifiliar coil is nothing special either.  Just because it has parasitic capacitance.
please dont call me names for telling the truth.

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #132 on: March 17, 2014, 12:52:39 PM »
Let me clear a bit of a thing here, and i did not suck this from my finger...

You can never get more energy out from several coils that resonate at the same frequency.
You can not get the same amount of energy from them all at once.
thats just blabber from the side of donald smith,  he does not know what he says on many occasions...

nor you can have more output or wierd anomalies from a bifiliar coil,  a bifiliar coil is nothing special either.  Just because it has parasitic capacitance.
please dont call me names for telling the truth.

We all are in search of truth, however harsh it may be, I dont mind. Watch this please, free energy device from GTA1183.
Is this a fake ?
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=efEgXnFxvJ4

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #133 on: March 17, 2014, 01:14:49 PM »
We all are in search of truth, however harsh it may be, I dont mind. Watch this please, free energy devicehttp://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AKS1RYDtMacfrom GTA1183.
Is this a fake ?
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=efEgXnFxvJ4

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I think you may be right as in this video Jon Abel shows 2 bifi placed on top of cooktop increases energy draw by cooktop and also dims the lightbulbs connected to the first bifi.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AKS1RYDtMac

What a disappointment ! But now we know DS didnt reveal the whole truth, so no point following his work, as told by him publically in his videos and websites.

Wondering why make fool of people by showing fake devices ?

I dont want to call names to a dead man.

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Re: I tried to rebiuld a Don Smith Device
« Reply #134 on: March 17, 2014, 01:21:51 PM »
We all are in search of truth, however harsh it may be, I dont mind. Watch this please, free energy device from GTA1183.
Is this a fake ?
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=efEgXnFxvJ4

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people get fooled very easily.
the reason why these "inventors" are affraid to stand out is the reason why they are liars.
im sad too that this world is full of foolsters that are like parasites.
some see that im talking against my self that i still believe that some form of alternative energy machine does exist. (this is the reason im still talking on this forum)
But i know it as fact that 95% of people who claim are just attention seekers.

my view on a machine that could give us power.
be it simple.
if tesla really made breakthrough,  just think if there were any transistors, diodes, or any other fancy components were available.

He had iron, copper and capacitors. at the time he could have made a device like that with his calculations.
and if there is truly a machine like that in existence,  i know it can be very simple,
all significant inventions employing the laws of nature were all based on very simple concepts
if it is possible.   this is based on a simple concept too.
definately.   just look into nature.  its all there. simple.

 

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