Ok, so I am fairly new to this. Not completely but, somewhat new none the less. I wanted someone with some knowledge to clarify some things for me.

Mainly, I am concerned with heat and amp draw. I am under the impression that the unit gets draws more amps as it gets hotter. So, with that said, what would be to much as far as amps and heat goes? Does it really matter? Not looking for over unity here also, just an "ICE" setup. So, again what is to much as far as heat and amps go.

What is the purpose of a neutral plate. I see some builds having many neutral plates and they do not produce much hydrogen. It will be something along the lines of +nnnnn-nnnnn+ or something along those lines, and they don't seem to do much at all. This leads me to believe the "n" plates are not really contributing to gas productions, so what would be the purpose, do they drop the voltage needed in the setup or what benefit would come from this?

That all I can think of for now. Just hoping I can get someone with some knowledge on these 2 questions to shine some light on this for me.

Sounds good but I am looking for the answers to those specific questions. I didn't really see those addressed.

I am looking for the info on heat and amps, and why neutral plates are used.

i have not tryed the netural plates yet how ever i will today

i  know the result...   much more efficient cell with much less heat and amparge but from what i have seen  the cells should be split my opinion way too much work ......

i will try the 6 plate cell with 4 nutral plates +nnnn-  also i will try a dubble 6 plate cell  +nnnn--nnnn+

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just tested the 6 plate 4 nutreal plates  in just tap water resualts were crap  slow production  mind you amps were verry low none the less i much perfer the heat and high amps... this was connected to the 12v deep cycle battery dirrectly as are my other cells

i will stick with the high amps as the cost to make a lower amprage high volume cell it way too much in ss alone plus the container will take too much time to build and seal

i have ran my unit for 1.5 hours nonstop  testing it out and no concerns heat or other wise it gets damm hot yes but the abs 4" sch 40 seams to take it well  this is a dirrect connect to the battery fully charged im useing 4ga car audio power supply wire after 1 hour run production is large

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in what i have seen so far it did not climb much more in temp i did not mesure the amps but b4 i start amps were well over 30 amp draw and that was cold tap water  no electrolite    but even after 1.5 hours my wires were not hot or melting i have no connections in the can only out put for gas i have wercked a few cans doing it the wrong way in the past

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can i ask what is wrong with a boiling pot of water

as i have have seen and read the hotter the better   no??

have a look at cold fusion

http://youtube.com/watch?v=oLUeGX3hNpU

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Hi peeps

I just build an HHO generator for my car. I am waiting to buy an amperimeter clamp, so I can be sure of current consumption.

Maybe someone of you can clarify some concepts to me:

There seems to be two "schools" about voltage and current (or maybe I got everything wrong).

1) Not more than 2 volts are usable for hydrolisis. BUT HIGH CURRENT is a must (being the most used configuration the ones that use +||||||- -||||||+).
2) (the one that uses pulsed current) is: LOW current but high voltage (like Meyer's tubes o ravzz pulsed current modulator).

My cell actually is composed of 16 ss plates (15cm x 5cm)  separated by 1mm aprox, in +-+-+-+-+-+-+- configuration. My tester was not a clamp one, and reached up to 10 amps. It gave an error. I took it off, and using my CB radio 12amps power supply, I also burned its fuse. Now I am wondering how many amps my "monster configuration" is eating ...

For the three or so seconds that it worked before burning out the fuse, the HHO production was VERY GOOD.

I used tap water, with no electrolytes added.

Now I am also planning to try distilled water, just to see if I can lower amperage.

If things keep being this out of scale, I will switch into pulsed high voltage, low current feed (with a power inverter, just to see what happens). Then I might try to build the ravzzz pulsed circuit, if things look promising (or keep the power inverter attached to the system).

Anyway; I am also building several measurement and safety sensors to be rigged into the HHO generator, inside my car:

A pressure sensor (that will monitor HHO build up and water level, inside the cell), a temp sensor (just to monitor if things get boiling), a voltage sensor, probably a current sensor (this one is not decided) and the whole contraption is controlled with a 70A automotive relay so my microcontroller can turn it on / off at any time. Just for the sake of it, I will throw in a transmitter, so I can monitor every parameter from the inside of the car without cabling anything.

I am waiting for some parts to arrive. The transmitting and receiving platform is already built.

So, if any of you got any idea or recommendation, I?ll be truly thankful...

Regards,

Enrique

finally i have been impressed by the nutrel plate cell 

i took 1 of the plates out of the 4 plate cell and loaded the soda to it it is statring to get damm hot and amparage has not exceeded 10 amps yet been 40 min since i fired it up

production it great  not as much as my other cell +-+-+- but it cosumes hot 1/3 of the of the start up of my high amp cell cold lol

if that makes sence

  i am watching the amps closely the time and the temp this is a dirrect connect to a battery

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