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Title: SS wire questions
Post by: Dr.Greenthumb on June 15, 2008, 08:24:42 PM
How thin is too thin? how long is too long? I have some SS wire i found for my mig welder and made a cell and am getting odd results from it. Could someone explain to me what going on?

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hook it up to a car battery and only the first 5-7 lines of wire start to produce HHO. After about 3-5 mins the positive side of the cell wire gets hot. Around that time the cell slowly produces bubbles near the middle. is the wire to thin? what the heck is going on?
Title: Re: SS wire questions
Post by: vdubdipr on June 17, 2008, 02:54:58 AM
if i could take a guess maybe the wires are touching somewhere... maybe
ive read that .18 and .28 guages are optimal what guage do you have? and the only way to figure out if it is too long is to find the total surface area,  i think and theres some where in the patrick kelly guide to free energy (google it) it says the best volt amp suface area equation...
Title: Re: SS wire questions
Post by: Dr.Greenthumb on June 17, 2008, 06:41:18 PM
if i could take a guess maybe the wires are touching somewhere... maybe
ive read that .18 and .28 guages are optimal what guage do you have?

Made another one just to test again. Same thing. This time i made sure no wires were touching. went and measured the wire and its .022 of an inch. what is that .18 gauge?
Title: Re: SS wire questions
Post by: vdubdipr on June 18, 2008, 01:09:27 AM
not shure how guage relates to measurement... hows about making one half the length and see what she deos....
Title: Re: SS wire questions
Post by: Happyhydrogen on June 18, 2008, 03:38:44 AM
How about, keep it thin, and sprial it with little rubber stoppers every...say 1/4 inch. Kind of like insulated SS with the other strip on the other side, wire them have close cellconstruction and I'm sure smaller containers. I would rather have a short fatty in the engine than the tall thimble. The coil would be a great design for a cell, that I am sure would produce. BTW - Don't blow up on your own gas! I just light a line of a cell in front of my friends to show them, and that top exlpoded. It is a force to be reconded with.
Title: Re: SS wire questions
Post by: enki09 on June 20, 2008, 03:20:37 AM
Consider electrical resistance as the source of your heat. Stainless plates are much better than wire. Food grade stainless is best since it has a high nickel content and nickel is the inert (fairly) element here. Also nickel can provide some catalyst effect as well.
Title: Re: SS wire questions
Post by: Dr.Greenthumb on June 30, 2008, 05:24:49 PM
sorry i had to delete the picture for "safety" reasons. The funny thing about this cell is im getting resistance on the opposite wires when they ARE not touching and not in the water. I made a totally new one and made sure nothing was touching. Ill have to take a picture of this new one. I made it so it would fit into a large sized mason jar. Still the same thing. Actually on a side note. The first time i hooked it up in water i noticed that it produced bubbles almost to half way down. took it out, cleaned it off and tried again and now only the top 5-7 wraps of wire is doing anything. Whats got me puzzled is why im getting the resistance on the opposite wires  that are not touching. Anyone have an idea?